@cameron83: their stronger than they've been in years bolder too

Well, I have two little cousins (age 7) that I have trained to be fans of DC. They even know who Lobo is. If you asked me who Lobo was when I was 7, I would've said it was a kind of insulting nickname.

I just think we need to show kids the lighter characters- Wally West, Beast Boy and Cyborg, etc. Before long they will seep into fandoms of Batman and darker characters.

LOL!

lol no. Apparently you don't know what the new 52 is.....and what caused it.

They're ruling in Games, TV shows, animations and are making almost as much profits in Movies as Marvel, in terms of comics Marvel and DC are tied so I don't see how they're not at a strong position.

GUYS GUYS GUYS YOU ARE ALL WRONG DC IS NOT DOOMED IT WILL NEVER BE DOOMED IT HAS BETTER AND MORE COMPLEX CHARACTERS DC WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER THAN MARVEL NO MATTER WHAT

DC will never be doomed because they have Batman. Right now it's like they're actually trying to kill themselves and it's still not working.

New conspiracy theory?

Simple answer: Marvel is kid friendly. Adults with kids, like myself, feel comfortable letting kids watch them. I wouldnt let my kids watch Dark Knight.

That said, im a DC fan more than a Marvel fan, so am I worried? Not really. The darker tone also means the DC movies are generally taken more seriously, treated as more than PG-13 summer popcorn films. Basically, I expect once my kids are old enough, they'll seek out the "heavier" stuff.

Whats more interesting is that by all accounts, Thor 2 is the darkest Marvel movie yet, so I get the impression Marvel is following DC more then we realize.

@mideonnviscera said:

A company that has Batman and Superman cannot fail they make too much money just off those 2 alone to not succeed.

lol True.

Completely agree but I definitely would like to see Flash, GL, WW and others on the Big Screen.

Doom as far being less popular than marvel, then yes, but its been like that for awhile imo. Here's when i realized DC was getting stomp as far as media awarness. I had some kid cousins come over for a visit(ages:5 5 and 4). I let play Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom and they named pretty much everybody on the marvel roster that was an avenger and deadpool. I thought to myself "when the hell did deadpool become kid related?" Then they wanted to play another game so put Injustice Gods Among Us. Anybody wanna guess what 2 characters they only knew? Which is said b/c almost each DC hero has symbol on his or chest pretty much making easy for you to know who they are.

DC's problem is that as big as their fanbase is, it mainly consists of fans that have followed their stuff from when they were kids... Like a lot of people here are saying, kids in this generation don't seem to be following on with DC at the moment.

You could let your kids read Tiny Titans it is starting again next year when is still unknown.

A crossed Superman? That's a terrifying idea.

More like wonderful idea, garth ennis writes the best twisted character types

he should pen joker actually

Hahahaha.

lol

DC has always been a bit better at pumping out cartoons. Though they may not have the same reach as a movie, they hit their target demographic at those formative years and indoctrinate them into loyal fans of Superheroes.

Good point, even if their movies aren't doing as well as Marvel's they always make quality cartoons insuring today's kids grow up with DC heroes.

Dc is not doomed.

Yup. Whether it be Superfriends or the DCAU, they know how to create loyal fans.

However I think DC should put animated shows for characters not Batman/Superman so that those other characters can gain their own fanbases as well.

I would recommend showing your daughter shows like Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Young Justice, Teen Titans, etc to show that DC isn't all gloom and doom.

DC would be doing way better with kids if they weren't being shackled to CN for their animated shows. DC is doing fine with adults but so far if you're between 9 and 17 they really have nothing for you aside from Arrow outside of the comics and video games.

DC has Batman. Everyone loves Batman.

Not on the internet they don't.

I don't think the problem with DC's film adaptations are they're too gritty. I think they're too inconsistent. Nolan got the right tone for Batman, but that tone doesn't work for Superman. Green Lantern's tone was trying very hard to emulate the Iron Man movie. That didn't work either. Then Jonah Hex was just plain out of character. In my opinion WB should stop thinking about what made the Avengers and the Dark Knight so successful and start thinking about why these characters have endured 70+ years.

All ranting aside, I don't think civilian movie goers are turning into comic fans when they leave a theatre anyway. They may be fans of the character but not necessarily the source material. I'm really not worried about young people's ignorance killing DC. Someone who genuinely a fan of comics cares about a good story, not character recognition.

@joshmightbe: Agreed. And it doesn't help that Cartoon Network seems to always go out of its way to screw over DC cartoons unless they are comedies. DC should really move their cartoons to the Hub since they treat their action shows with respect.

@dernman: not photoshop legit Byrne drawing

Every single thing that this guy said.

agree

..Since writing this post, I've been feeling a bit more optimistic about DC. They put out some great comics last year and the Superman/Batman movie is gathering momentum what with Wonder Woman getting an appearance and perhaps other characters too...so perhaps DC isn't doomed after all, which cheers me greatly, because whilst I like Marvel and DC, I seem to enjoy more DC stuff than Marvel.