Then why is Over-Monitor above him?
 
 

- Tier 1 - [ 1st Class Beyond ]:

• The Over-Monitor/ Over-Mind/ Overvoid
• The Presence ( Yahweh / Elaine Belloc)
  

Over-Moniter?

" Over-Moniter? "

where the heck you get that idea? Must be some error.

" where the heck you get that idea? Must be some error. "

" the Over-Monitor is assumed to be some being even beyond God himself... its hard to say if he actually is IMO... but I havent seen too much of the lad "

It clearly says unofficial rankings. I haven't seen this guy do anything so I don't believe he's above The Presence.

" @mrbobdobalina: Its unnoficial and I just corrected it. Never heard of this guy before. AND he's not above God. "

Why do some of the characters on that list not even have character links?

" @mrbobdobalina: Because they have never made an apperance. "

" @mrbobdobalina: Because they have never made an apperance. "

" @King Saturn said:

" the Over-Monitor is assumed to be some being even beyond God himself... its hard to say if he actually is IMO... but I havent seen too much of the lad "

I have never even heard of him. "

NOTHING CAN BE ABOVE THE PRESENCE!!! D:<

I don't think that it's an actual sentient being...I remember Grant Morrison talking about it and the way he described it was that it was the border areas of the comic book page, the place characters go when they're forgotten, limbo....yeah Grant Morrison has some crazy ideas

The Over Monitor is some sort of sentinet being who found the DCU as a germ to himself and sent Dax Novu to inspect it. Read Superman Beyond 3D

What you doing here?

that just shows that there in the same tier not whose the strongest. But the Presence is forever top dog not matter what

The Presence and The One Above All are number one in their respective multiverses. Nothing is higher. Simple as that, really.

Many will bring up an argument that the Presence was made of something else, but only moron will debate it. If he was created by any one, he meant the writer. That's that. Nothing is beyond or equal to the Presence in my eyes. Nor ever will be.

The easiest way to show that the Over-monitor is not the top of the top is that he "found" the previous multiverse and learned stories from it. Just from that it shows, he didnt make the original multiverse and couldnt come up with stories on his own. He sounds large but actually pretty useless just trying to learn for all eternity.

So my next question would be, who created the previous multiverse and was there a multiverse before that one?

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So my next question would be, who created the previous multiverse and was there a multiverse before that one?

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" @Supreme Marvel: interesting, i didnt think either of them ever created a world let alone a universe "

Either the Unoffical rankings have been moved oor deleted, but it's not there anymore.

I edited the Unofficial rankings a while back (over a year ago) to place The Presence up top... but looks like someone re-edited again. Whoever did, maybe they can explain why The Over-Monitor (etc) is above The Presence.

he's not above him he's more like apart of the presence much like the source, the word, the voice, the hand, the great evil beast etc. what one should ask is how the presence can divide himself into so many things and still be all powerful lol.