Who is getting stale? Who needs something more? As long as they are going to shove the DCNU down our throats, who do think could benefit from it?

Here is the format: Villain/Problem with the Character/What Direction You Would Like Him/Her to Take?

I'll start.

Black Mask (Roman)

Problem: Generic and boring. He's got a cool look, but his actions are typical mob boss...and sometimes he is portrayed as a bit of a boob.

Direction: Anything to make him more relatable and/or more threatening. Many of the best villains have something going for them. Mr. Freeze loves his wife, Penguin runs some legitimate businesses, heck, even Joker can make you laugh, but Black Mask is just generically evil. Mwa, Ha, Ha! Power, money and pain! Booooring. Also, I don't see him as a genuine threat to Batman or much anybody else.

Copperhead,Villains like these should be more threatening rather then become background characters.

Copperhead could be mutated into a more reptilian looking humanoid like the lizard.

Think about it.

I am glad with what they're doing with Silver Banshee so far only in the sense that Supergirl FINALLY seems to have a supporting character. If the writers continue on the path they're on with her, Supergirl could have one of the best comics in the relaunch. Also, it will serve the readers greatly when they finally do decide to make Banshee bad and do it in a good fashion.

@Icarusflies: god I loved Underworld Unleashed, I so miss the old school DC 80's/90's crossovers, especially the annual events.

@Icarusflies: Today's crossovers wish they could be as good as the old stuff, I'd take Bloodlines over Final Crisis any day...

@PsychoKnights said:

Black Mask (Roman)

Problem: Generic and boring. He's got a cool look, but his actions are typical mob boss...and sometimes he is portrayed as a bit of a boob.

Direction: Anything to make him more relatable and/or more threatening. Many of the best villains have something going for them. Mr. Freeze loves his wife, Penguin runs some legitimate businesses, heck, even Joker can make you laugh, but Black Mask is just generically evil. Mwa, Ha, Ha! Power, money and pain! Booooring. Also, I don't see him as a genuine threat to Batman or much anybody else.

He is definitely not my favourite character and he can be boring at times but:

1. The fact that he is a serious mob boss (especially in War Games) actually makes him more interesting. He has the best of both worlds: He is both "a mask" and a mob boss and unlike most Bat villains, he is not completely insane, has results and actually won at times.

2. Not threatening? He has a skull for a head and enjoys torture more than 90% of villains (cf War Games and Catwoman).

Now Judd Winick kind of messed it all up in Under the Hood but that's Winick for you, sometimes he just mess things up.

@nickthedevil: You relate more with the Red Skull?

I disagree. Making Roman more human would be a step away from the Red Skull. Also, Red Skull is practically the iconic "Mwa, Ha, Ha! I am evil! World domination!' That's what I would like Roman to move away from.

In other words, Black Mask is already Red Skull only less effective.

@DarthShap: Black Mask was good in War Games, but in every other view of his character, I've not been impressed.

Yes, he looks threatening, and again, his unifying of the gangs during War Games was a stroke of genius, but he only "beat" Batman after he was completely exhausted. Batman later mopped the effing floor with Black Mask in a fight, and Roman did not accomplish much once he was the head mobster of Gotham. He's not a Batman level villain in my book...or if he is, he is a Mad Hatter level villain.

Bizarro. He's written like a kid with a mental condition. People don't realize that all he's supposed to be is a dark mirror of Superman. That shouldn't automatically mean that he's, for lack of a better word, retarded.

This guy, Condiment King V

Black Mask is a bada$$ he don't need no revamp.

Bizarro. He's written like a kid with a mental condition. People don't realize that all he's supposed to be is a dark mirror of Superman. That shouldn't automatically mean that he's, for lack of a better word, retarded.

@The Stegman said:

@Gambit1024:

Bizarro. He's written like a kid with a mental condition. People don't realize that all he's supposed to be is a dark mirror of Superman. That shouldn't automatically mean that he's, for lack of a better word, retarded.

completely agree, I'm tired of him talking like I R Baboon and basically working for other ''bigger'' villains, I want him to be intelligent, and as evil and twisted as Superman is good and moral.

Exactly. Maybe if Superman were known for his intelligence then it'd at least make sense, but since he's not, I don't see why he has to be a moron. You want the opposite of what Superman is? Make Bizarro a terrorist, or something. The stupid shtick never made sense to me, and it got old real fast.

The majority of Superman's rogues. They need a reboot to become more threatening and offer more action in a comic that seems to be getting drained of it.

@The Stegman said:

@Gambit1024:

Bizarro. He's written like a kid with a mental condition. People don't realize that all he's supposed to be is a dark mirror of Superman. That shouldn't automatically mean that he's, for lack of a better word, retarded.

completely agree, I'm tired of him talking like I R Baboon and basically working for other ''bigger'' villains, I want him to be intelligent, and as evil and twisted as Superman is good and moral.

Exactly. Maybe if Superman were known for his intelligence then it'd at least make sense, but since he's not, I don't see why he has to be a moron. You want the opposite of what Superman is? Make Bizarro a terrorist, or something. The stupid shtick never made sense to me, and it got old real fast.

@Delphic: Agreed with both of those. I really like the way Riddler was handled in Arkham City as a Jigsaw-type villain who works behind the scenes. As for Mirror Master... Well, I wouldn't know how to revamp him, lol.

@Primmaster64: I know. Bizarro and Metallo are the first that come to mind.

@Gambit1024  said: 

@The Stegman said:

@Gambit1024:

Bizarro. He's written like a kid with a mental condition. People don't realize that all he's supposed to be is a dark mirror of Superman. That shouldn't automatically mean that he's, for lack of a better word, retarded.

completely agree, I'm tired of him talking like I R Baboon and basically working for other ''bigger'' villains, I want him to be intelligent, and as evil and twisted as Superman is good and moral.

Exactly. Maybe if Superman were known for his intelligence then it'd at least make sense, but since he's not, I don't see why he has to be a moron. You want the opposite of what Superman is? Make Bizarro a terrorist, or something. The stupid shtick never made sense to me, and it got old real fast.

A lot of Supes villains need a revamp. 

why don't they revamp killer moth into a actual cool batman villain

killer moth should get a revamp into a cool villain

kg-beast should be revamped

@Delphic said:

I'm with you on Mirror Master, but I actually like the Riddler. I'm not sure how he was presented at the end of the DCU, but around the zips, Riddler was working as a private detective willing to bend the rules to make a little dishonest cash, but mostly working as an honest man. I though making him a competitor to Batman in solving crimes was very clever.

@BATMAN9797 said:

kg-beast should be revamped

What ever happened to KGBeast anyway? The last time I saw him was in Troika back in 95. Surely he has had a story since then.