Bring back the old universe

Sad to see Static go, hopefully he gets a shot at being in the Teen Titan title again like he was in the Old Universe before the switch. Static definitely has the potential to be big if DC would just get the stick out their assas. As for Mr. Terrfic I always thought he was awesome in JSA and I knew from the get go after seeing his HORRIBLE re-design that his book would fail...so sad. Hopefully, Batwing stays strong and for the love of god make John Stewart a bigger focus in GLC, Guy Gardener is already in JLI. Good another brother a chance DC. Just sayin cause I'm a huge John fan and I thought he was utterly badass in Blackest Night

I think most of the series that got cancelled kind of deserved it. Especially Static Shock I was very disappointed with that series.

I wasn't buying any of this titles (the only one that I had second thoughts and was starting to regret not buying it was OMAC), sorry for those who were reading them, but Blackhawks is a stupid concept, Static Shock proves that children/teens need to read material directed to them, H&D, no comments, Mr. Terrific, interesting as a team player, not solo and Men of War was the only "new" or "interesting" concept that really surprised me, so it's a pitty being culled this way. I was surprised that such titles like Voodoo and Batman The Dark Knight survived, let's see for how long!

My only question is, didn't DC say they weren't cancelling any books for the first year? What happened to that?

@blackkitty said:

My only question is, didn't DC say they weren't cancelling any books for the first year? What happened to that?

Depends on how u count a year technically the new 52 launched in 2011 and cancellations don't take affect until April 2012 therefore no books were cancelled in the first year. Semantics I know.

@Sekele said:

@Durakken said:

@Sekele said:

@Durakken:

I personally liked O.M.A.C. for what it was:

A silly Silver Age Kirby throwback

... it's a complete rip off of a marvel product

Of a GOOD Marvel product, which, from the last time I checked, Marvel no longer seems to produce

Punisher, Daredevil, Amazing Spider-Man, Thunderbolts, Defenders, Secret Avengers, Secret Warriors, Avengers Academy, New Mutants, Wolverine etc etc etc

@fodigg: Yes that cannot happen I refuse to see them cancel that

Here's a protip: if the first issue of the book closes with a "stunning murder!" cliffhanger, you are doing something wrong.
 

@MattDemers said:

@Sekele said:

@Durakken said:

@Sekele said:

@Durakken:

I personally liked O.M.A.C. for what it was:

A silly Silver Age Kirby throwback

... it's a complete rip off of a marvel product

Of a GOOD Marvel product, which, from the last time I checked, Marvel no longer seems to produce

Punisher, Daredevil, Amazing Spider-Man, Thunderbolts, Defenders, Secret Avengers, Secret Warriors, Avengers Academy, New Mutants, Wolverine etc etc etc

Wolverine and the X-Men, X-Factor, X-Men: Legacy, Uncanny X-Force, Venom etc.

Defenders is good? But Fraction writes it.
BB

@Avalonia said:

@MattDemers said:

@Sekele said:

@Durakken said:

@Sekele said:

@Durakken:

I personally liked O.M.A.C. for what it was:

A silly Silver Age Kirby throwback

... it's a complete rip off of a marvel product

Of a GOOD Marvel product, which, from the last time I checked, Marvel no longer seems to produce

Punisher, Daredevil, Amazing Spider-Man, Thunderbolts, Defenders, Secret Avengers, Secret Warriors, Avengers Academy, New Mutants, Wolverine etc etc etc

Wolverine and the X-Men, X-Factor, X-Men: Legacy, Uncanny X-Force, Venom etc.

>.>

I'm trying to figure out how the last two parts of that make sense... I can only imagine that you're listing marvel products that you think are good, when that has nothing to do with what is being said....

OMAC is a rip off of Hulk, which Sekele's thinks is good and ok to rip off because it's good and not being published right now...

This of course is wrong. You can rip people off, but not so much so that it is this blatant... When it's this blatant it can only be made "ok" by whether it is good or not... which this is far from being good. Some people said it is the style of the comic being old timey. No. It's just badly written, the plot doesn't work, the characters don't work, the art is bad in concept and application... i don't think I can think of anything positive to say about OMAC.

@Durakken said:

@Avalonia said:

@MattDemers said:

@Sekele said:

@Durakken said:

@Sekele said:

@Durakken:

I personally liked O.M.A.C. for what it was:

A silly Silver Age Kirby throwback

... it's a complete rip off of a marvel product

Of a GOOD Marvel product, which, from the last time I checked, Marvel no longer seems to produce

Punisher, Daredevil, Amazing Spider-Man, Thunderbolts, Defenders, Secret Avengers, Secret Warriors, Avengers Academy, New Mutants, Wolverine etc etc etc

Wolverine and the X-Men, X-Factor, X-Men: Legacy, Uncanny X-Force, Venom etc.

>.>

I'm trying to figure out how the last two parts of that make sense... I can only imagine that you're listing marvel products that you think are good, when that has nothing to do with what is being said....

It actually does :)

Refer to the bold/underline portion.

static was just horrible and i am a huge fan of the character just everything from the costume (what was the artist thinking?) to the spider-man rip-off. i think if they do another Static book they should have virgil wake up from a bad dream in dakota because this was just awful. I'd get someone like matt wayne to write the book.

@Avalonia said:

@Durakken said:

@Avalonia said:

@MattDemers said:

@Sekele said:

@Durakken said:

@Sekele said:

@Durakken:

I personally liked O.M.A.C. for what it was:

A silly Silver Age Kirby throwback

... it's a complete rip off of a marvel product

Of a GOOD Marvel product, which, from the last time I checked, Marvel no longer seems to produce

Punisher, Daredevil, Amazing Spider-Man, Thunderbolts, Defenders, Secret Avengers, Secret Warriors, Avengers Academy, New Mutants, Wolverine etc etc etc

Wolverine and the X-Men, X-Factor, X-Men: Legacy, Uncanny X-Force, Venom etc.

>.>

I'm trying to figure out how the last two parts of that make sense... I can only imagine that you're listing marvel products that you think are good, when that has nothing to do with what is being said....

It actually does :)

Refer to the bold/underline portion.

Yeah I see that bolded line, but that, as I pointed out in the next line that you cut off, is referring to the Hulk, not all Marvel products.

@MattDemers said:

@Sekele said:

@Durakken said:

@Sekele said:

@Durakken:

I personally liked O.M.A.C. for what it was:

A silly Silver Age Kirby throwback

... it's a complete rip off of a marvel product

Of a GOOD Marvel product, which, from the last time I checked, Marvel no longer seems to produce

Punisher, Daredevil, Amazing Spider-Man, Thunderbolts, Defenders, Secret Avengers, Secret Warriors, Avengers Academy, New Mutants, Wolverine etc etc etc

None of which interest me besides the occasional Punisher

Already too many X-Men and Avengers titles out there for me to keep track, and I've pretty much sworn-off Spiderman after One More Day (with the exception of the occasional Ultimate)

So yea, I stay uncorrected

@Avalonia said:

@MattDemers said:

@Sekele said:

@Durakken said:

@Sekele said:

@Durakken:

I personally liked O.M.A.C. for what it was:

A silly Silver Age Kirby throwback

... it's a complete rip off of a marvel product

Of a GOOD Marvel product, which, from the last time I checked, Marvel no longer seems to produce

Punisher, Daredevil, Amazing Spider-Man, Thunderbolts, Defenders, Secret Avengers, Secret Warriors, Avengers Academy, New Mutants, Wolverine etc etc etc

Wolverine and the X-Men, X-Factor, X-Men: Legacy, Uncanny X-Force, Venom etc.

As said before, too many X-Men titles for me to keep track of

@Durakken:

The Silver Age Jack Kirby Hulk to be exact

Even the art style is a nearly perfect homage

for once i want to hear news like Batman books canceled

@Sekele: The art for OMAC reminded me of Kirby the first time I saw it. I quite liked the book, it was a bit weak to start with, but it got better as it progressed.

Men of War and Static Shock I never read, so I can't comment. Mister Terrific I desperately wanted to work as he was one of my favourite JSA characters, but the book could get a little boring. When it worked though, it was good and certainly not the worst book of the new 52. Blackhawks was a massive disappointment (I like what I've seen of the old Blackhawks) and the first I dropped as I really just didn't care about it. Hawk and Dove was okay writing wise, I wanted to see where it was going but I would have preferred stick men then it's "artist".

Too bad about Hawk and Dove. I will agree the story is pretty weak and the enemies just blew. It sounds like I'm the only person left in the world that likes Liefeld's art, and I'm not sure why... Unrealized potential for this comic. The rest I agree with. And I hope beyond hope that Static does NOT end up with the Teen Titans. I'm happy to see him go. As for the new titles... I'll hafta wait and see. I don't really care for another Batman title, I think he's got enough. They should just focus on making his existing titles that much better. And as another poster mentioned, with Supergirl already out, I'm not too sure we need a duplicate in Power Girl... but again, hafta wait and see.

What will become of the heroes then whats gonna happen to them

I'm sad for Static and Terrific...see, you guys shoulda have gone with Black Lightning instead! (a character which I love more than those two..)

The military comics getting canceled.. I expected as much! Wait... Man at War's still going??? Whaaaa??

OMAC though...I'm sad they're stopping something as fun already..

GRRR WHY did you Cancel Blackhawks you stupid writers at DC? that was one of my pulls. yet Garbage like Grifter and Deathstroke are still in? hell Mister Terrific, Static, Blackhawks are more interesting books than Action comics. and this is from a guy who has loved Superman since he could speak. yes I am a big Superman fan but I hate the current story in Action comics. Voodoo is still in? Grifter and Deathstroke? are you kidding? even Teen Titans sucks compared to his pre reboot couterpart.

Static was a good book as was Mister Terrific though I read upto the second issue (ones I bought) the other issues were from friends and I'm not a fan but it was a very interesting story for both Terrific and Static. sure they are not massive heroes but they are much better than Grifter and Voodoo along with Deathstroke.

Hell I'm a big Batman fan also but I am not spending my money on FIVE Batman books, that is rediculas hell I dropped Detective comics along with Batman and Robin. Detective was just out right boring and some of the characters didn't make sense even in issue one Joker wasn't acting like Joker he was totally out of character and I don't get why he had his face cut off. As for Batman and Robin, again didn't make sense how can Damian be depressing his inner killer in this series yet he was fine in the first series with Dick Grayson which is still cannon? sure different Batman as it's father and son but Damian didn't have any problems with not killing in that series at all and then suddenly he does?

The only one I'm surprised about is Static. The others were destined for failure right at the start in my opinion.

No surprises here.

@MattDemers said:

@onyxwave said:

I'm honestly beginning to think that all of these "new 52" titles are looked upon as test beds rather than full blown ongoing series. I think this is just DC's way of shaking things up, trying to get creative again while giving it a splashy concept that'll grab headlines and bring in rejuvenated big pockets, at least for the near term, while they are in experiment mode. I'm thinking that after a year of doing this, we'll probably get a more clear picture of where DC is planning on taking their jumbled universe(s).

Congrats! You just figured out the New 52.

Yeap, and look how they just released that they are updating their logo as well to go along with all the constant changes. It's a nice logo, and I do commend them for trying new things. DC hasn't felt this promising since they started hiring top penciling talent again 5 to 8 years ago. So I'm all for anything that's gonna get me smiling about theses characters again. Though, I hope DC doesn't lose sight of the fact it still takes a great writer/penciler/inker team to produce a great book!

Besides Hawk & Dove I am okay with all the cancellation - well Mister Terrific was promising but soon became very boring and disappointing - and I could at least and easily cut 6 more. What I really don't understand is why we need so many Batman related comics? Isn't Batman and Detective enough? All the other related characters (plus Alfred, Commissioner Gordon,...) could be combined into a "DCU presents Gotham City".

@Omega-Man said:

Hell I'm a big Batman fan also but I am not spending my money on FIVE Batman books, that is rediculas hell I dropped Detective comics along with Batman and Robin.

If it weren't just 5! It's definitively too many...

Detective was just out right boring and some of the characters didn't make sense even in issue one Joker wasn't acting like Joker he was totally out of character and I don't get why he had his face cut off.

You're joking, right?

@DonFelipe:

No I'm not joking I hate Detective comics. Batman comics is a much better series than Detective. And Joker didn't feel like Joker to me.

@OMEGA-MAN:

Well, I agree the new 52 Batman is better than Detective. With joking I wanted to refer to the Joker not acting like the Joker because he ain't the real Joker but one of the Dollmaker's insane victims (wearing a Joker mask - interestingly Dick is wearing another fake mask in Batman #1, too). Unfortunately the Dollmaker and Detective for that matter cannot quite live up to the expectations in the following issues, where Batman starts with another very interesting story that gets better issue by issue. So while the Dollmaker becomes more of a Dullmaker the Court of the Owl gets more and more intriguing. Maybe Scott Snyder and Tony Daniel changing sides has something to do with the (change of) quality in the story lines? He!

I also agree with you there's definitively too many Bat stories out there... very annoying somehow. With DC milking the cow(l) like that they shouldn't wonder if readers will lose their interest in all the Bat related stories one day. Maybe not right now, with TDKR coming up in the theaters this summer, but soon thereafter. Besides, quality should always be in favor of quantity.

Hopefully this means Shazam will finally get some real respect and a good book.  
 
I've always thought that if they did Captain Marvel right, he could be the next big thing. A super hero for kids in an era where superhero's are geared towards 20-30 year old adults.  
 
He's a fun, unique character with an interesting rouges gallery, great costume/look, and its perfect for kids. Imagine you say a magic word and you transform into something pretty damn close to Superman.  If Cap picked up with the kids, got some good sales going, they could do some serious work with the character.