Now that youve seen both movies. Who do you guys think made a better or more dangerous villain?

Two totally different characters, I would pick Joker for his ability to just cause utter chaos on such a massive scale.

More dangerous? That's a hard one to answer. Both have a huge potential for widespread destruction; Joker through chaos, and Bane through detailed, meticulous planning. I would give the edge to Bane because he is more dedicated, and in a one on one situation, is far more dangerous than Joker ever was.

Bane was more focused and overall more deadly.

They were totally different characters, but I would have to say Bane is more dangerous because he is much deadlier physically and is more methodical.

I am VERY happy about how they portrayed Bane in TDKR. After seeing TDK, I was actually thinking it'd be interesting to have a villain who actually planted their explosives in a professional way instead of only using barrels of gas. Although it'd be a bit more interesting if his inhaler actually altered his muscles somehow instead of some pain killer. But to say one is more dangerous than the other is a very hard question, since they're both deadly in their own way. But the main question that's bothered me since I saw this movie is, if Ledger had actually been able to keep his shit together and not die, what role do you think he would've had in this movie? As a major villain that somehow helped Bane? or would he have just made a cameo like Scarecrow did? In my opinion he would've been the better choice for the judge in the chaos courts. :)

Joker's just a guy with a serious case of Shaudenfreude. The worst he did was threaten two boats of people and make people want to go after the guy who knew Batman's Identity.

Bane literally conquered Gotham straight out of the US.

Joker is only dangerous in that he's unpredictable. Bane is dangerous in that he's capable.

Also,

@spideyfan69: @Degalon: that rather short sighted. Joker brought the Mob to it's knee's, almost killed all of Gotham, he was smarter then Batman for almost the whole film, he vreated a monster out of a hero, and he did not care about anything. for all Bane's thoughness he still was a henchmen to Talia. in the movie world the joker was extremely capable.

@entropy_aegis: deathstroke is not in the nolan universe and even outside of it Joker is a hundred times more dangours the deathstroke. you can't plan for the joker ever.

I would rather face bane than facing joker.. he's too creepy to deal with.. bane may be stronger physically but joker is unpredictable and sickly funny "I kill the bus guy"

I thought Bane was really scray. Joker was freaky though.

In the end, I think I'm going with Bane. Plus I really like Bane. LOL.

Joker is like that kid who takes drama class and literature as a minor while bane is that kid who got the NCAA scholarship, pencil-neck gets snapped

@entropy_aegis said:

@KenTheProfile said:

@entropy_aegis: deathstroke is not in the nolan universe and even outside of it Joker is a hundred times more dangours the deathstroke. you can't plan for the joker ever.

Your argument was that Bane was a henchman and thus Joker>Bane.

the Joker has been caught and locked up more times than I can count,

First, no it was not that's what you took it to mean. I was pointing out that maybe they question should be Talia vs. joker not bane I was not clear and failed in doing that. it was more of an statement about who's plan it was then about rank

If being caught or foiled is the measuring stick for being dangerous then all villains are ineffective and harmless.

in the comic Bane may be more of a threat pysically to batman just like in the movie but Joker was more dangerous in the films he was always one step head of everyone until the very end.Bane needed a crippled Batman for his plan to work, meaning he could never operate against a fully ready Batman like Joker did

Lets put it this way.

Bane has outsmarted and outmaneuvered, and outperformed Batman.

Joker has never come anywhere near any of that. He's more of an occasional annoyance, with the only reason he's a threat period, being that Batman won't kill, so he keep showing up. For all his 'unpredictability", he's just a punk like Zhaz, only he has more showmanship.

They are both dangerous in differnt ways. If you are walking down the street, minding your own business, Bane isnt going to give you the time of day becasue you have nothing to do with his plan. On the other hand, The Joker may decide to kill you cold just because you looked at him funny. I would say Bane is a much bigger threat while the Joker is more dangerous becasue of his unpredictability.

@PurpleCandy: They already made Bane look pitiful by making him Talia's little puppy dog. Could have definitely done without THAT.

Joker was a masterful, psychotic killer.

Bane was a stategic, unstoppable killer.

Both were epic but I have to go with the Joker.

Joker is insanity. Bane is organized insanity. Therefore bane wins

Joker is a sadistic freak

Bane had a batman with a broken leg

He aslo lost to batman when he was recovering from a broken back.

While Bane is a more physical threat, Joker utilizes weapons more and would probably shoot him and/or blow him up and/or put pencils in his eyeballs

The Joker is very unpredictable

Bain very capable and very willing

Joker:

Made Two Face

Took over the mob

Made the city give up Batman

Made the city tremble with fear

Killed Rachael

Blew up a hospital

Killed Lau while burning the mobs money

Broke out of prison

Took a bus full of passengers captive

Killed a judge

Made Batman a criminal

Killed the black guy in the mob

Caused batman to go to drastic measures to stop him

Bane:

Broke Batmans back

Trapped the police in the sewers

Killed the mayor

Released Gothams criminals

Trapped Batman in a whole or something

Blew up Gotham bridges and football stadium

Killed Trask

Took Bruce's money

I would say Joker did alot of smaller things to make the city tremble with fear. While Bane did less larger things to destroy Gotham. If these two were in jail and they both got out I would worry more about the Joker. Just because his attacks are psychological too.