@vinovash1234 said:
Watchable? thats insane to consider, i'd take MoS over iron man 2 anyday of the millennium.....and how did it butcher your "loved" character on every level? this superman character was indirectly superman for only a few hours and you expect him to be this boyscout from the top? So marvel hasnt made ONE bad film? not even one? thats hilarious and stupid....what do you mean DC and Warner start doing things right with their films? they've only made ONE so far. And now you're judging their cinematic universe despite it actually being good and delivered and BEFORE its finished or even started? so what is it that makes you dissapointed about their cinematic universe? if there even is a legitimate reason at all......the avengers was built of off THREE characters, the justice league is being built of off TWO, whats one more difference? a third could easily get a relevant cameo. And can you name any of those recent DC movies? MoS.....thats pretty much it right now.
I dont think you realize how ridiculous and butchered you sound, but objectively any regular, sane human would call you a marvel fanboy and frankly i doubt ANYthing DC does will EVER please you, even in the slightest, even if you become the exec of DC, you'd still scrutinize them, thats how bad your hate is getting. I suggest you lay of DC as a whole.
Seeing my favourite character being written in a film that's basically for non Superman fans isn't my idea of enjoyment. And I just love how you've taken my words and opinion completely out of context. I never said Marvel hasn't made a bad film, that's a hypocritical statement on your part entirely. And no I wasn't expecting a perfect Superman, I was expecting a character who had the makings of Superman and would grow into the role. Not an edgy, emo brooder who we're supposed to accept is Superman. And WB have made far more than one DC film so far and none of it involved a cinematic universe. They're making it because they can, not because they should. It's not being well crafted like the Marvel universe was in Phase One. And it took 4 characters to make the MCU; Iron Man, Hulk, Thor and Captain America in their own films. Another thing you're wrong about.
And I don't think you realise how biased and hypocritical you're sounding right now. If anything, I'm more of a DC fan than a Marvel fan. Most of my favourite characters are DC, most of my current comics and overall collection is DC and I comment more on DC threads than Marvel ones. I have a preference for DC over Marvel so I believe that shoots down all your misconceptions that I'm a Marvel fanboy. And I scrutinise DC's current direction because I care about DC and its characters. I care about what these characters represent and how, when they're done right, old characters can have new life breathed into them via comics, cartoons and films. In many respects, DC is failing on those aspects and that's why, as a fan, I have the absolute right to complain about it. It's not hate as you wrongly think it is, it's legitimate criticism. Agree or disagree, I don't give a damn whether you do but I'm not liking the direction Batman vs Superman is going in. I haven't judged it yet because I haven't seen the film but given that Batman is being forced into the film, Wonder Woman is now appearing and the fact it's already turning into a Justice League prequel, I don't have much to get excited about. I'm viewing this with an open mind, something I didn't do last time with MOS.
News flash, ALL superhero movies including marvels have been written for non-super-hero fans, does it or doesnt it qualify as enjoyment then? How is that a hypocritical statement? cause theres nothing hypocritical about it, maybe a misunderstanding but not hypocritical. How do you expect someone who hasnt been superman at all through the movie and donned the cape for an hour to become a character with the makings of superman? do you realise how you sound? How do you suddenly turn a lost man into a caped hero in 2 hours? you dont, you show it as a process, hence trilogies exist. How is he edgy and an emo? provide proofs before spewing c***, this superman questioned his origins and was lost, thats perfect for a lone survivor of an alien, you really think people want the boyscout superman? this is 2014, not the 1930s, the superman portrayed in man of steel is the more human and real superman, fitting for the mainstream audience and todays age. WB tends to give a lot of rights to their directors, look at nolan, who flat out refused to include his batman in any cinematic universe, at such a time you simply dont force the director to do the opposite. Can and should doesnt make a difference, if you CAN make something it means you want to, it means passion and interest; if you do the contrary and should make it, it implies pressure and force. The marvel universe phase one had ONE good movie, the rest werent even viewed or watched, thats not well crafted, it was rushed, two came out in one year. As for claiming 4 movies, its funny how that works out, marvel literally ignored the incredible hulk, its nowhere to be seen or heard, they never talk about it, mention it or even acknowledge it.....look at their guardians of the galaxy poster, no mention of the hulk.....so i'll stick with 3 movies.
Biased and hypocritical? thats a perfect description of yourself, i merely pointed a flaw to how you're treating DC, how does that come close to proving im a hypocrite and biased? im OPEN MINDED, BIG difference. Sorry all that is statement, no proof, i dont need to buy that "im a DC fan first" lie, especially when theres no proof and especially when most if not all, fanboys say the same thing. It doesnt shoot down any "misconception" as that would require objective proof, which you didnt provide, i dont know you, you're a guy behind a screen spewing nonsense, you expect me to take your word that you're a DC fan after bashing them? And you dont think marvels taking just as a worse a direction if not worse? Now you're sounding like a hipster from the 1930's, i didnt need to here your sobing over DC's direction, cause thats YOUR problem, not mine, im loving DC's direction, so your comment doesnt make any difference to me or DC. And what direction is BvS going exactly? assuming that you've already watched it ahead of its time and know the full detail of its structure? which you dont and havnt, soo keep the judgement for later......curiosity CAN be an issue but no dislike when they havnt done anything else or released anything else.
News flash AGAIN, this is NOT a MoS sequel, this is exactly what it is, a BvS movie that sets up the JL.......you still dont realise the direction DC's going do you? the newly created DC cinematic universe is telling a SINGLE story hence these movies are connected and getting movies that arent a sequel to eachother.....and wonderwoman is likely getting a cameo at the end credits scene. Consider every movie an unofficial sequel to one another, heck if theres a wonder woman movie, even thats a sequel to the original MoS. Thats COMPLETELY different to marvel, marvel isnt telling a single story, every one of their movie is a different story to one another, hence their formula worked for them, but thats not DC.
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