I believe that was the intention of her creators but was not realized because of her lack of luster. hmm....
Posted 7 months, 1 week ago
I believe that was the intention of her creators but was not realized because of her lack of luster. hmm....
Dazzler isn't even alive.
Posted 7 months, 1 week ago
Dazzler isn't even alive.
If I have my sources right, Dazzler have a resurrection factor...can not be killed.
It is not yet resolved why it is so.
Posted 7 months, 1 week ago
If I have my sources right, Dazzler have a resurrection factor...can not be killed.
It is not yet resolved why it is so.
Vance Astro says:
"Dazzler isn't even alive."
Yes she is, she was recently reunited with Longshot in the Die by the Sword mini.
And she should not be an omega, no one should since the term is insanely stupid.
Posted 7 months, 1 week ago
Vance Astro says:
"Dazzler isn't even alive."
Yes she is, she was recently reunited with Longshot in the Die by the Sword mini.
And she should not be an omega, no one should since the term is insanely stupid.
haha I was waiting for fes to say something about Omega
What's the point? There are plenty of people that can beat Omegas, so what are they? Stupid Marvel there IS nothing after omega
Posted 7 months, 1 week ago
haha I was waiting for fes to say something about Omega
What's the point? There are plenty of people that can beat Omegas, so what are they? Stupid Marvel there IS nothing after omega
Her mirrorball-necklace and matching rollerskates are enough of a liability to keep her from Omega Status.
This is actually a good thing as every other double D-cup mutant is Omega Status thereby making the whole term stupid.
Posted 7 months, 1 week ago
Her mirrorball-necklace and matching rollerskates are enough of a liability to keep her from Omega Status.
This is actually a good thing as every other double D-cup mutant is Omega Status thereby making the whole term stupid.
Isn't Omega the power level of mutants? Thats's not saying they are all powerful but in comparison to other mutants they are more powerful.
Posted 7 months, 1 week ago
Isn't Omega the power level of mutants? Thats's not saying they are all powerful but in comparison to other mutants they are more powerful.
The term omega level has never fully been defined but here is pretty much the most common understanding of them. Omega mutants are the most powerful class of mutants. Omega mutants can control matter and energy without the aid of any tools or depence on an outside source. They have unlimited potential and are possibly even immortal. In addition to actual power, Omega mutants are not hindered by their powers. Meaning their physical appearance matches that of normal base-line humans, allowing them to live a normal life and blend with the normal population, if they wish.
While dazzler has almost all of these as a description even her newly shown possible immortality, she lacks in one major area. Dazzler while incredible in power and can fully manipulate light to any extent, she requires sound. The basis of her power is that she transduces sound into light. If she was able to bodily create light with no outside needs then she would most definately be an Omega Level Mutant. This is not the case, she requires sound to make light. NO sound, NO power.
This would define Dazzler as an Alpha-Level Mutant.
Posted 7 months, 1 week ago
The term omega level has never fully been defined but here is pretty much the most common understanding of them. Omega mutants are the most powerful class of mutants. Omega mutants can control matter and energy without the aid of any tools or depence on an outside source. They have unlimited potential and are possibly even immortal. In addition to actual power, Omega mutants are not hindered by their powers. Meaning their physical appearance matches that of normal base-line humans, allowing them to live a normal life and blend with the normal population, if they wish.
While dazzler has almost all of these as a description even her newly shown possible immortality, she lacks in one major area. Dazzler while incredible in power and can fully manipulate light to any extent, she requires sound. The basis of her power is that she transduces sound into light. If she was able to bodily create light with no outside needs then she would most definately be an Omega Level Mutant. This is not the case, she requires sound to make light. NO sound, NO power.
This would define Dazzler as an Alpha-Level Mutant.
fesak says:
"Vance Astro says:"Dazzler isn't even alive."Yes she is, she was recently reunited with Longshot in the Die by the Sword mini. And she should not be an omega, no one should since the term is insanely stupid."
The term isn't insanely stupid.Your going overboard.
Posted 7 months, 1 week ago
fesak says:
"Vance Astro says:"Dazzler isn't even alive."Yes she is, she was recently reunited with Longshot in the Die by the Sword mini. And she should not be an omega, no one should since the term is insanely stupid."
The term isn't insanely stupid.Your going overboard.
Who is Ice Prince talking to?
Posted 7 months, 1 week ago
Who is Ice Prince talking to?
He would be responding to me, Strobe. Read up a few more post to find mine.
Posted 7 months, 1 week ago
He would be responding to me, Strobe. Read up a few more post to find mine.
fesak says:
"Vance Astro says:"Dazzler isn't even alive."Yes she is, she was recently reunited with Longshot in the Die by the Sword mini. And she should not be an omega, no one should since the term is insanely stupid."
it is kinda silly
Posted 7 months, 1 week ago
fesak says:
"Vance Astro says:"Dazzler isn't even alive."Yes she is, she was recently reunited with Longshot in the Die by the Sword mini. And she should not be an omega, no one should since the term is insanely stupid."
it is kinda silly
Apparition says:
"fesak says:"Vance Astro says:"Dazzler isn't even alive."Yes she is, she was recently reunited with Longshot in the Die by the Sword mini. And she should not be an omega, no one should since the term is insanely stupid."it is kinda silly"
because it doesn't actually mean anything
Posted 7 months, 1 week ago
Apparition says:
"fesak says:"Vance Astro says:"Dazzler isn't even alive."Yes she is, she was recently reunited with Longshot in the Die by the Sword mini. And she should not be an omega, no one should since the term is insanely stupid."it is kinda silly"
because it doesn't actually mean anything
Dazzler is cool but not an omega level mutant. I bet jubille would win against her because of her ability to detonate matter at a sub atomic level. She would be able to disintergrated her on the spot.
Posted 7 months ago
Dazzler is cool but not an omega level mutant. I bet jubille would win against her because of her ability to detonate matter at a sub atomic level. She would be able to disintergrated her on the spot.
Slight says:
"Dazzler is cool but not an omega level mutant. I bet jubille would win against her because of her ability to detonate matter at a sub atomic level. She would be able to disintergrated her on the spot."
I would have to agree on that Slight
BUT if the Dazzler can attack or blind Jubilee 1st now there lies the problem. Dazzler has been used several times where she was able to exhibit too powerful attacks and cast light illusions.
Omega-Level or Alpha Level mutants are the same except that Alpha makes use of something before activating their powers while omega level just need to think about it and viola! their powers are manifesting every where. Also Alpha and Omega mutants are normal looking mutants that can blend with the normal human population.
Posted 7 months ago
Slight says:
"Dazzler is cool but not an omega level mutant. I bet jubille would win against her because of her ability to detonate matter at a sub atomic level. She would be able to disintergrated her on the spot."
I would have to agree on that Slight
BUT if the Dazzler can attack or blind Jubilee 1st now there lies the problem. Dazzler has been used several times where she was able to exhibit too powerful attacks and cast light illusions.
Omega-Level or Alpha Level mutants are the same except that Alpha makes use of something before activating their powers while omega level just need to think about it and viola! their powers are manifesting every where. Also Alpha and Omega mutants are normal looking mutants that can blend with the normal human population.
Strobe says:
"The term omega level has never fully been defined but here is pretty much the most common understanding of them. Omega mutants are the most powerful class of mutants. Omega mutants can control matter and energy without the aid of any tools or depence on an outside source. They have unlimited potential and are possibly even immortal. In addition to actual power, Omega mutants are not hindered by their powers. Meaning their physical appearance matches that of normal base-line humans, allowing them to live a normal life and blend with the normal population, if they wish. While dazzler has almost all of these as a description even her newly shown possible immortality, she lacks in one major area. Dazzler while incredible in power and can fully manipulate light to any extent, she requires sound. The basis of her power is that she transduces sound into light. If she was able to bodily create light with no outside needs then she would most definately be an Omega Level Mutant. This is not the case, she requires sound to make light. NO sound, NO power. This would define Dazzler as an Alpha-Level Mutant."
Wouldnt you be Omega Level based on what you can do with your power in comparison to others? I think Miss Dizzle Dazzle qualifies as that
Posted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Strobe says:
"The term omega level has never fully been defined but here is pretty much the most common understanding of them. Omega mutants are the most powerful class of mutants. Omega mutants can control matter and energy without the aid of any tools or depence on an outside source. They have unlimited potential and are possibly even immortal. In addition to actual power, Omega mutants are not hindered by their powers. Meaning their physical appearance matches that of normal base-line humans, allowing them to live a normal life and blend with the normal population, if they wish. While dazzler has almost all of these as a description even her newly shown possible immortality, she lacks in one major area. Dazzler while incredible in power and can fully manipulate light to any extent, she requires sound. The basis of her power is that she transduces sound into light. If she was able to bodily create light with no outside needs then she would most definately be an Omega Level Mutant. This is not the case, she requires sound to make light. NO sound, NO power. This would define Dazzler as an Alpha-Level Mutant."
Wouldnt you be Omega Level based on what you can do with your power in comparison to others? I think Miss Dizzle Dazzle qualifies as that
Did they ever explain why she couldn't use the sound of her voice to use her powers? I haven't been up on Dazzler for quite some time now and always tthought that to be really stupid.
Posted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Did they ever explain why she couldn't use the sound of her voice to use her powers? I haven't been up on Dazzler for quite some time now and always tthought that to be really stupid.
Tao Ming says:
"Did they ever explain why she couldn't use the sound of her voice to use her powers? I haven't been up on Dazzler for quite some time now and always tthought that to be really stupid."
Well no official statement as to why but that is what is written on her character's profile, I guess that is to limit her for being too powerful at once. But it does sound unfair.
Posted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Tao Ming says:
"Did they ever explain why she couldn't use the sound of her voice to use her powers? I haven't been up on Dazzler for quite some time now and always tthought that to be really stupid."
Well no official statement as to why but that is what is written on her character's profile, I guess that is to limit her for being too powerful at once. But it does sound unfair.
IcePrince_X says:
"I believe that was the intention of her creators but was not realized because of her lack of luster. hmm...."
My understanding of Omega, by who is already listed as an Omega, is that they have to be able to psionically manipulte matter on a sub atomic scale.
Dazzler doesn't do that. She manipulates energy just like Cyclops and Havok do, turning one form of energy into another. She can do more with her energy output, but all she is doing is transforming one form of energy, sound, into another, light.
But I also agree with the previous posters that stated that "Omega class" is essentially meaningless.
Post Edited:2008-03-20 04:37:48
Posted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
IcePrince_X says:
"I believe that was the intention of her creators but was not realized because of her lack of luster. hmm...."
My understanding of Omega, by who is already listed as an Omega, is that they have to be able to psionically manipulte matter on a sub atomic scale.
Dazzler doesn't do that. She manipulates energy just like Cyclops and Havok do, turning one form of energy into another. She can do more with her energy output, but all she is doing is transforming one form of energy, sound, into another, light.
But I also agree with the previous posters that stated that "Omega class" is essentially meaningless.
Post Edited:2008-03-20 04:37:48
Pania says:
"IcePrince_X says:"I believe that was the intention of her creators but was not realized because of her lack of luster. hmm...."My understanding of Omega, by who is already listed as an Omega, is that they have to be able to psionically manipulte matter on a sub atomic scale. Dazzler doesn't do that. She manipulates energy just like Cyclops and Havok do, turning one form of energy into another. She can do more with her energy output, but all she is doing is transforming one form of energy, sound, into another, light. But I also agree with the previous posters that stated that "Omega class" is essentially meaningless.
Post Edited:2008-03-20 04:37:48"
Omega class isn't meaningless it's a tier.Everyone is Omega Class is more powerful than everyone that is Alpha class and so on.
Posted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Pania says:
"IcePrince_X says:"I believe that was the intention of her creators but was not realized because of her lack of luster. hmm...."My understanding of Omega, by who is already listed as an Omega, is that they have to be able to psionically manipulte matter on a sub atomic scale. Dazzler doesn't do that. She manipulates energy just like Cyclops and Havok do, turning one form of energy into another. She can do more with her energy output, but all she is doing is transforming one form of energy, sound, into another, light. But I also agree with the previous posters that stated that "Omega class" is essentially meaningless.
Post Edited:2008-03-20 04:37:48"
Omega class isn't meaningless it's a tier.Everyone is Omega Class is more powerful than everyone that is Alpha class and so on.
Not really.
There is no way Elixir can beat Magneto.
Posted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Not really.
There is no way Elixir can beat Magneto.
Pania says:
"Not really. There is no way Elixir can beat Magneto. "
Elixir isn't at the peak of his powers...he's still young.What Omega Level says about potential is Elixir will eventually have powers that will greater than that of all mutants below that tier.
Posted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Pania says:
"Not really. There is no way Elixir can beat Magneto. "
Elixir isn't at the peak of his powers...he's still young.What Omega Level says about potential is Elixir will eventually have powers that will greater than that of all mutants below that tier.
I don't see how as he does not have the access to array of energies that Magneto does on top of being able to manipulate both organic and inorganic matter on a sub-atomic scale. Magneto wields both energy and matter, Elixir only shapes matter (and right now only organic, and he has to be in physical contact for his powers to work).
It's a meaningless rating.
Post Edited:2008-03-20 05:31:42
Posted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
I don't see how as he does not have the access to array of energies that Magneto does on top of being able to manipulate both organic and inorganic matter on a sub-atomic scale. Magneto wields both energy and matter, Elixir only shapes matter (and right now only organic, and he has to be in physical contact for his powers to work).
It's a meaningless rating.
Post Edited:2008-03-20 05:31:42
Completely meaningless.
Posted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Completely meaningless.
I'll be back to explain when i'm not waking up from a nightmare.
Posted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
I'll be back to explain when i'm not waking up from a nightmare.
Unless Elixir is suddenly going to start wielding one of the four foundation forces of the universe completely outside his established powerset, he is never going to be as powerful as Magneto.
They should stop trying to establish "Bad Assery" ratings which are complete unscientific and do nothing but give fanboys something to argue about and concentrate instead on classifying types of powers. Matter manipulators (Hellion, Jean Grey, Elixir), Energy Wielders (Magneto, Cyclops, Dazzler, Strom), Regenerators (Wolverine, Deadpool, possibly Husk), Strength (Colossus, Warpath), teleporters (Nightcrawler, Blink), Telepaths (Jean, Emma, Xavier), etc.
Post Edited:2008-03-20 05:43:18
Posted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Unless Elixir is suddenly going to start wielding one of the four foundation forces of the universe completely outside his established powerset, he is never going to be as powerful as Magneto.
They should stop trying to establish "Bad Assery" ratings which are complete unscientific and do nothing but give fanboys something to argue about and concentrate instead on classifying types of powers. Matter manipulators (Hellion, Jean Grey, Elixir), Energy Wielders (Magneto, Cyclops, Dazzler, Strom), Regenerators (Wolverine, Deadpool, possibly Husk), Strength (Colossus, Warpath), teleporters (Nightcrawler, Blink), Telepaths (Jean, Emma, Xavier), etc.
Post Edited:2008-03-20 05:43:18
Pania says:
"I don't see how as he does not have the access to array of energies that Magneto does on top of being able to manipulate both organic and inorganic matter on a sub-atomic scale. Magneto wields both energy and matter, Elixir only shapes matter (and right now only organic, and he has to be in physical contact for his powers to work).It's a meaningless rating.
Post Edited:2008-03-20 05:31:42"
Not for some of us.
What do you need to have to be at least be agreeable with a rating?
In Biology, Taxonomy has been proven as one of the field with the largest debate because of the ever changing knowledge we are gaining because of the advancement of technology. But even with this, certain things are accepted as at least the basis of how things are arranged in order.
The attempt of Marvel to classify the powers of their characters are not pointless but is at least an attempt to explain and level things. The problem here is the agreement with the writers who tend to make it over the top.
If I am right, the first attempt to classify mutants actually came from Mutant X, with their mutants being arranged as Elemental, Feral or Psyhic but with varying degree of strength and energy projection.
I am not rubbing the issue to accept the power grid but at least show some open mindedness to how it came to be. Otherwise, we will just end with a lot of people fighting for their heroes/heroine with outlandish basis of powers.
Posted 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Pania says:
"I don't see how as he does not have the access to array of energies that Magneto does on top of being able to manipulate both organic and inorganic matter on a sub-atomic scale. Magneto wields both energy and matter, Elixir only shapes matter (and right now only organic, and he has to be in physical contact for his powers to work).It's a meaningless rating.
Post Edited:2008-03-20 05:31:42"
Not for some of us.
What do you need to have to be at least be agreeable with a rating?
In Biology, Taxonomy has been proven as one of the field with the largest debate because of the ever changing knowledge we are gaining because of the advancement of technology. But even with this, certain things are accepted as at least the basis of how things are arranged in order.
The attempt of Marvel to classify the powers of their characters are not pointless but is at least an attempt to explain and level things. The problem here is the agreement with the writers who tend to make it over the top.
If I am right, the first attempt to classify mutants actually came from Mutant X, with their mutants being arranged as Elemental, Feral or Psyhic but with varying degree of strength and energy projection.
I am not rubbing the issue to accept the power grid but at least show some open mindedness to how it came to be. Otherwise, we will just end with a lot of people fighting for their heroes/heroine with outlandish basis of powers.
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