In a just world, Darkseid could solo the JLA. Alas, we have what we have. Only Orion should be able to take him in combat. As much as I love Superman; the god of evil and the god of war deserve to be tougher than just some alien.
Also, there's a difference between Omega Beams, and the Omega Effect. Omega Beams are just super powerful laser beams, the Omega Effect is the autokill/teleporter/tracker beams he rarely uses nowadays. Then there's the Omega Sanction, which is the death that is life.
In theory yes he should be ruling the galaxy by now but i swear people like superman and wonder woman have blocked the beams.....its odd.
It's obviously deppends on who is writing for Darksied at the time and what Darkseid himself wants to to use them for.
Darkseid just doesn't want to rule the universe, he wants to dominate the will of every sentient being. So just conquering by brute force has little appeal to him. Instead he plays the long game and if that means not zapping someone because he thinks they can be useful later, that's what he does. As for travelling through time, I'm not sure if he's been shown consistently doing that himself. Besides, the New Gods have this fatalistic streak to them with a final Darkseid-Orion battle already destined.
The most recent animated version with Darkseid was wildly inconsistent. Batman can dodge Darkseid's Omega Beams? Superman can block them with his hand over Darkseid's eyes ?? What the what ? I came across an old crossover with the Fantastic Four/Superman where Darkseid let his Omega Beams loose point blank on Galactus and he wasn't hurt at all. Of course, that's Galactus and not an alien, Amazon, or former test pilot.
I think his Omega Beams are greatly under used, and usually not depicted as powerful as they can be, ignoring the whole Final Crisis revival...*rollseyes* Superman's invulnerability affords him some resistance against Darkseid's Omega Beams, its been depicted as not such a mere feet though. It's not like bullets bouncing off his chest. I think Wonder Woman has deflected his Omega Beams at one point, either in the comic or cartoon. Robin once avoided them in Total Justice, it's been awhile since I read that so I can't quite remember how. My experience with Darkseid he usually comes off as over confident or overly obsessed (like in the superpowers cartoon with wonder woman). Someone needs to write a really good JLA story with Darkseid when he comes back, the true Darkseid. Show how powerful and evil he is, one that will redefine him and make a lasting impression in comic books for years.
I know he tried to use them on the Spectre. However, it didn't work just made the Spectre angry. Only those who protected by the Source will be protected, Wonder Woman was able to deflect them with her bracelets if I'm not mistaken.
I agree that the Omega Beams (and their source the Omega Effect) were portrayed in very incoherent way, but keep in mind that the original New Gods serie which introduced the idea was at first thought as a sort of fully contained universe, not a part of the bigger picture.
Given that the "Omega whatever" are horribly powerful, with them there is little he can't do. Accoring to some source the lists of effects includes:
I always wondered. Why is Darkseid's name pronounced, "DARKSIDE" and not "DARKSEID". Would "Darkseid" mean "Darkside"? Anyway, I don't think Darkseid even controls his Omega beams. I think he doesn't really understand what power he wields. Because when he tried to kill Batman in Final Crisis #6, we found out later that he was transported to the caveman times in the end of final crisis #7. So maybe Darkseid controls the beams at times, however, other times the Omega beams choose who to kill and who not to kill
There is no consistency when it comes to Darksied’s Omega Beams. So when it’s used, like many beam like powers, I just see how the writer and/or artist intends to use it. Between incineration, penetration, and vaporizing… let along life and death. We’ve seen how it works. Same goes for Superman’s Heat Vision and Cyclops’ Optic Blast.
To kill Superman Darkseid would probably have to blast him repeatedly for a long period of time to kill him or any other kryptonian. Wonder Woman well we all have see how those Omega beams stand up to her bracelets. Only individuals probably able of dodging the beams would probably be the Flash, A serious acting Superman, Batman (Justice League Unlimited) and maybe a few others.
" I always wondered. Why is Darkseid's name pronounced, "DARKSIDE" and not "DARKSEID". Would "Darkseid" mean "Darkside"? "I used to say Dark-SEED. When I hear Dark-SIDE, I think of this:
i was JUST having a convo about this yesterday! i was watching the new superman/batman Apocalypse movie and in the movie supergirl is hit MANY times with the beams and although it hurt her, she survived and was able to keep fighting, however in the comics it turned her to dust with one blast (even though it wasn't really her, she was teleported away at the last second) but it hinted that if it WAS to hit her, she'd die, so my question is why didnt she die in the movie? and since it COULD kill a kryptonian when it hits them, how is superman still alive?? this is truly confusing, and it seems that that the beams constantly change in both power and speed from story to story. another example is how Batman could dodge them in the JLU Series although they are supposed to be extremely fast, but couldn't dodge them at the end of final crisis...what the heck DC?? are they all powerful or not??
In re: Time Travel-
In Simonson's Orion, in one of the final issues, Orion makes a comment about how the New Gods tend to avoid messing with the time stream. I don't recall the exact comment, but it was pretty convincing and profound, and made a veiled reference to Crisis.
Was about to say in the Superman/Batman:Apocalypse movie, Kara dodges his beams and as they're seeking her, she flies behind Darkseid and they nail himself lol. Nothing happens other then him getting hit. Her and Superman also just take it which tells me kryptonians are very, very durable to his OB's. So to me that makes sense, now if he hits a human or most other people it should fry them or disintegrate them IMO.
Superman's heat vision at max power at least in the Silver Age was also said to destroy planets and ignite suns...so I'm curious as to what would happen if Superman charged his heat vision vs. Darkseid's OB's head on.
Also, when Batman "died" didn't he actually get transported to another dimension after getting hit by Darkseid's OB's?
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