Marvel Announces "He Lost, They Won" Villain Campaign

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Posted by G-Man (36765 posts) - - Show Bio

It looks like "Dark Reign" is going to make things a bit darker for the Marvel Universe.  The LA Times received some exclusive covers showing the victorious villains.  Things aren't looking good for the good guys.

































What do you make of these?  Has Emma gone back over to the dark side?  What could make Bucky kneel before Norman?  And looks like we get a glimpse at Hank Pym's new costumed look.
#1 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

hmm hasn't Pym used that same costume for what 2 months?

#2 Posted by G-Man (36765 posts) - - Show Bio

No.  Hank has been locked away with the Skrulls.  Now that he's back and Wasp is dead, he's finally gonna make a new (permanent) identity, according to writers.

#3 Posted by Precise (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

Hm... the Emma picture crushing Cyclops visor is interesting.

#4 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

I know but he took the costume on Secret Invasion: Requiem and appeared with it in Mighty Avengers

#5 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm confused, isn't the one with Wasp and Hank supposed to read she lost?

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#6 Posted by G-Man (36765 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe it means "He lost her" and part of his life?

#7 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
aztek the lost said:
"I'm confused, isn't the one with Wasp and Hank supposed to read she lost?
"
well he did lose her ex-wife.. :P
#8 Posted by Precise (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

Hm.. I'm kinda curious now how they will explain Emma going over to the dark side (if she is of course).

#9 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Well the one of Loki is obviously based on the events of Thor #600 (which I ain't spoiling)

The one of venom could be the American Son story by Kelly that was announced

Iron man I'm guessing the conclusion of his current arc

Captain America...future storyline in his comic? Ain't Captain America #600 supposed to come this year?

Hank Pym-His role as the leader of the mighty avengers

Goblin-Well we all know who won

Daken/Wolverine-Daken taking his father's main comic out of him

Wonder why there's no Ms. Marvel/Moonstone one

#10 Posted by danhimself (22626 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter said:

"Well the one of Loki is obviously based on the events of Thor #600 (which I ain't spoiling)

The one of venom could be the American Son story by Kelly that was announced

Iron man I'm guessing the conclusion of his current arc

Captain America...future storyline in his comic? Ain't Captain America #600 supposed to come this year?

Hank Pym-His role as the leader of the mighty avengers

Goblin-Well we all know who won

Daken/Wolverine-Daken taking his father's main comic out of him

Wonder why there's no Ms. Marvel/Moonstone one
"

i think the american son storyline is more focused on harry and norman

#11 Posted by Precise (22886 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"Wonder why there's no Ms. Marvel/Moonstone one"
Well there's no Hawkeye/Bullseye either.
#12 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm getting some Final Crisis vibes here.

There's way too much villains wining in comics these days.

#13 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"There's way too much villains wining in comics these days.
"
there can NEVER be too many villain victories, go EVIL!
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#14 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio

These posters have made me decide to really get into this event (I didn't read Secret Invasion at all).

#15 Posted by Erik (33329 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
"These posters have made me decide to really get into this event (I didn't read Secret Invasion at all).
"
You missed out.
#16 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
Acheron said:
 (I didn't read Secret Invasion at all).
"
you didn't really miss anything
#17 Posted by Erik (33329 posts) - - Show Bio

We both know that is not true. Secret Invasion rocked.

#18 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

I disagree but this ain't the place to discuss about that

#19 Posted by Acheron (1458 posts) - - Show Bio
erik said:
"Acheron said:
"These posters have made me decide to really get into this event (I didn't read Secret Invasion at all).
"
You missed out.
"

Nighthunter said:
"Acheron said:
 (I didn't read Secret Invasion at all).
"
you didn't really miss anything
"
LOL

#20 Posted by Decept-O (7279 posts) - - Show Bio

Bwaa Haa Haaa......insidious evil reigns at Marvel, and I likes it.  You can never have enough "E-Vile"  in comics, kiddies. 

Without evil, what purpose do the "super duper heroes" serve?   

Now, give me One Bi-ll-ion Dollars, Bwaa Haa Haaa!!  Haa Haa...O.K., that's enough. 

#21 Posted by Legacy_ (10667 posts) - - Show Bio

The pic of Captain bowing down is from World's Most Wanted if you read Invincible Iron Man #10 Maria Hill has to confront the new Captain America

#22 Posted by Midnightist (10858 posts) - - Show Bio

You know what thought we can guess what the covers are for but really we don't quite no I mean it only says covers for all we know there will be a mini-series caller He Lost They Won each telling a different story like what happened in Death of Captain America but thats just a theory.

#23 Posted by G-Man (36765 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"Wonder why there's no Ms. Marvel/Moonstone one"
Maybe Marvel is being sexist.  It's all about 'HE' losing and Ms. Marvel is far from being a 'he.'
#24 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

I think my fave is Loki and Thor

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#25 Posted by Midnightist (10858 posts) - - Show Bio
G-Man said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Wonder why there's no Ms. Marvel/Moonstone one"
Maybe Marvel is being sexist.  It's all about 'HE' losing and Ms. Marvel is far from being a 'he.'
"

Marvel just see her as a cute piece of @$$ lol


#26 Posted by Legacy_ (10667 posts) - - Show Bio
G-Man said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Wonder why there's no Ms. Marvel/Moonstone one"
Maybe Marvel is being sexist.  It's all about 'HE' losing and Ms. Marvel is far from being a 'he.'
"

They can just say She Lost.  They Won
#27 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
Closure said:
"The pic of Captain bowing down is from World's Most Wanted if you read Invincible Iron Man #10 Maria Hill has to confront the new Captain America"
I guess we read a different comic lol
#28 Posted by Midnightist (10858 posts) - - Show Bio

You know what though I'm a little glad this is happening from a Spider-man fan point of view because for a while outside of his own title he hasn't been very important factor in the last few stories. He's been apart but not as big a part as he should be being a marvel spear head character.

#29 Edited by Legacy_ (10667 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"The pic of Captain bowing down is from World's Most Wanted if you read Invincible Iron Man #10 Maria Hill has to confront the new Captain America"
I guess we read a different comic lol
"
LOL

And Captain is turning into #600??

I hate when a comic renumbers itself
#30 Posted by Midnightist (10858 posts) - - Show Bio
Closure said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"The pic of Captain bowing down is from World's Most Wanted if you read Invincible Iron Man #10 Maria Hill has to confront the new Captain America"
I guess we read a different comic lol
"
LOL

And Captain is turning into #600??

I hate when a comic renumbers
"
More like the 600th comic they have written Thor jumped from like 12 to 600 its just an anniversary thing I think.
#31 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio
Midnightist said:
"You know what though I'm a little glad this is happening from a Spider-man fan point of view because for a while outside of his own title he hasn't been very important factor in the last few stories. He's been apart but not as big a part as he should be being a marvel spear head character."
Didn't he have a big part in Civil War?
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#32 Posted by Legacy_ (10667 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"Midnightist said:
"You know what though I'm a little glad this is happening from a Spider-man fan point of view because for a while outside of his own title he hasn't been very important factor in the last few stories. He's been apart but not as big a part as he should be being a marvel spear head character."
Didn't he have a big part in Civil War?
"

But they retconed it into him never revealing his identity
#33 Posted by Erik (33329 posts) - - Show Bio

I see a striking similarity to the Thor picture. A message? Hmmmm.....

#34 Posted by Midnightist (10858 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"Midnightist said:
"You know what though I'm a little glad this is happening from a Spider-man fan point of view because for a while outside of his own title he hasn't been very important factor in the last few stories. He's been apart but not as big a part as he should be being a marvel spear head character."
Didn't he have a big part in Civil War?
"
He was really only important by giving up his secret identity and changing sides but after the fight with Ragnork half the groups changed sides.
#35 Edited by Legacy_ (10667 posts) - - Show Bio

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#36 Posted by Midnightist (10858 posts) - - Show Bio
Closure said:
"pixelized said:
"Midnightist said:
"You know what though I'm a little glad this is happening from a Spider-man fan point of view because for a while outside of his own title he hasn't been very important factor in the last few stories. He's been apart but not as big a part as he should be being a marvel spear head character."
Didn't he have a big part in Civil War?
"

But they retconed it into him never revealing his identity"
But I think that may have been the best thing they ever could have done for him.
#37 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
Closure said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"The pic of Captain bowing down is from World's Most Wanted if you read Invincible Iron Man #10 Maria Hill has to confront the new Captain America"
I guess we read a different comic lol
"
LOL

And Captain is turning into #600??

I hate when a comic renumbers itself
"
yup if my math is correct it's either in June or July
#38 Posted by Legacy_ (10667 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"The pic of Captain bowing down is from World's Most Wanted if you read Invincible Iron Man #10 Maria Hill has to confront the new Captain America"
I guess we read a different comic lol
"
LOL

And Captain is turning into #600??

I hate when a comic renumbers itself
"
yup if my math is correct it's either in June or July
"

I hate that V_V"
#39 Posted by Midnightist (10858 posts) - - Show Bio

Porly june since issue 50 comes out in may

#40 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
Midnightist said:
"Porly june since issue 50 comes out in may"
was thinking the same thing

Closure said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"The pic of Captain bowing down is from World's Most Wanted if you read Invincible Iron Man #10 Maria Hill has to confront the new Captain America"
I guess we read a different comic lol
"
LOL

And Captain is turning into #600??

I hate when a comic renumbers itself
"
yup if my math is correct it's either in June or July
"

I hate that V_V""

not a fan of renumbering myself
#41 Posted by Midnightist (10858 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"Midnightist said:
"Porly june since issue 50 comes out in may"
was thinking the same thing

Closure said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"The pic of Captain bowing down is from World's Most Wanted if you read Invincible Iron Man #10 Maria Hill has to confront the new Captain America"
I guess we read a different comic lol
"
LOL

And Captain is turning into #600??

I hate when a comic renumbers itself
"
yup if my math is correct it's either in June or July
"

I hate that V_V""

not a fan of renumbering myself
"
Yeah but luckly whenever they have the nerve to renumber they have the nerve to bust out some great stories read Thor 600 I loved it
#42 Posted by Legacy_ (10667 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"Midnightist said:
"Porly june since issue 50 comes out in may"
was thinking the same thing

Closure said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"The pic of Captain bowing down is from World's Most Wanted if you read Invincible Iron Man #10 Maria Hill has to confront the new Captain America"
I guess we read a different comic lol
"
LOL

And Captain is turning into #600??

I hate when a comic renumbers itself
"
yup if my math is correct it's either in June or July
"

I hate that V_V""

not a fan of renumbering myself
"
Their proly going to renumber New Avengers to the 500 hundreds when DR is over

I was begining to grab all the Captain books (The current volume) so when May came I could have all 50 issues but if they renumber it I'm going to shed a tear
#43 Posted by Erik (33329 posts) - - Show Bio

........

#44 Posted by Legacy_ (10667 posts) - - Show Bio
erik said:
"........"

Srry I can't quote the pic you posted (Bug problem)

It foreshadows that Thor might once again fall or nearly die
#45 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
Midnightist said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Midnightist said:
"Porly june since issue 50 comes out in may"
was thinking the same thing

Closure said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"The pic of Captain bowing down is from World's Most Wanted if you read Invincible Iron Man #10 Maria Hill has to confront the new Captain America"
I guess we read a different comic lol
"
LOL

And Captain is turning into #600??

I hate when a comic renumbers itself
"
yup if my math is correct it's either in June or July
"

I hate that V_V""

not a fan of renumbering myself
"
Yeah but luckly whenever they have the nerve to renumber they have the nerve to bust out some great stories read Thor 600 I loved it
"
yeah but there's no reason why they couldn't have put that in a #13 lol
#46 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
Closure said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Midnightist said:
"Porly june since issue 50 comes out in may"
was thinking the same thing

Closure said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"Nighthunter said:
"Closure said:
"The pic of Captain bowing down is from World's Most Wanted if you read Invincible Iron Man #10 Maria Hill has to confront the new Captain America"
I guess we read a different comic lol
"
LOL

And Captain is turning into #600??

I hate when a comic renumbers itself
"
yup if my math is correct it's either in June or July
"

I hate that V_V""

not a fan of renumbering myself
"
Their proly going to renumber New Avengers to the 500 hundreds when DR is over

I was begining to grab all the Captain books (The current volume) so when May came I could have all 50 issues but if they renumber it I'm going to shed a tear"
meh it's the same series so don't worry
#47 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio
Closure said:
"pixelized said:
"Midnightist said:
"You know what though I'm a little glad this is happening from a Spider-man fan point of view because for a while outside of his own title he hasn't been very important factor in the last few stories. He's been apart but not as big a part as he should be being a marvel spear head character."
Didn't he have a big part in Civil War?
"

But they retconed it into him never revealing his identity"
regardless, he had a major part to read.
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#48 Posted by Midnightist (10858 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:

yeah but there's no reason why they couldn't have put that in a #13 lol
"
Nor am I disagreeing 

pixelized said:

regardless, he had a major part to read.
"
That may be true but I really talking more towards how the characters themselves react to him
#49 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

what do you mean?

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#50 Posted by Midnightist (10858 posts) - - Show Bio
pixelized said:
"what do you mean?
"
Characters like Iron Man, Captain America are important but Spider-man isn't. It's not a real big deal and I'm going to star sounding like a fan boy but it just seems unfair

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