" @Andferne said:

@Nighthunter said:

" I hate the new costume"

I hate the character. "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Andferne said:

@Nighthunter said:

" I hate the new costume"

I hate the character. "

Shame on you. "

" @Andferne said:

@Nighthunter said:

" I hate the new costume"

I hate the character. "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Andferne said:

@Nighthunter said:

" I hate the new costume"

I hate the character. "

Shame on you. "

Bendis ruins everything

" @Nobody said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Andferne said:

@Nighthunter said:

" I hate the new costume"

I hate the character. "

Shame on you. "

I tried to like Noh-Varr but Bendis ruined it. "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Nobody said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Andferne said:

@Nighthunter said:

" I hate the new costume"

I hate the character. "

Shame on you. "

I tried to like Noh-Varr but Bendis ruined it. "

Ignore Bendis's Noh. Read him in his other appearances like The List: Wolverine or Savage She-Hulk. "

" @Nobody said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Nobody said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Andferne said:

@Nighthunter said:

" I hate the new costume"

I hate the character. "

Shame on you. "

I tried to like Noh-Varr but Bendis ruined it. "

Ignore Bendis's Noh. Read him in his other appearances like The List: Wolverine or Savage She-Hulk. "

I did and I hated those too.I feel like they wanked him off and made him look more powerful than he actually is.They used to do the same with Mar-Vell his stats are an absolute joke in comparison to most of the people they have shown in him compete with. "

Noh-Varr's tech is constantly shown to be some of the most powerful weapons around. Sure his stats might be around Spider-Man level(slightly higher), but its his equipment that made him the real threat. 

" @Nobody said:

Noh-Varr's tech is constantly shown to be some of the most powerful weapons around. Sure his stats might be around Spider-Man level(slightly higher), but its his equipment that made him the real threat. 

Wasn't he going h2h with Lyra for a while? "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Nobody said:

Noh-Varr's tech is constantly shown to be some of the most powerful weapons around. Sure his stats might be around Spider-Man level(slightly higher), but its his equipment that made him the real threat. 

Wasn't he going h2h with Lyra for a while? "

We don't know her strength level though. And Noh has shown to have a good deal of resistant to blunt trauma. Noh also was using the Pocket Battlefield to aid him, and she had the upper hand in the fight. "

" @Nobody said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Nobody said:

Noh-Varr's tech is constantly shown to be some of the most powerful weapons around. Sure his stats might be around Spider-Man level(slightly higher), but its his equipment that made him the real threat. 

Wasn't he going h2h with Lyra for a while? "

We don't know her strength level though. And Noh has shown to have a good deal of resistant to blunt trauma. Noh also was using the Pocket Battlefield to aid him, and she had the upper hand in the fight. "

I remember all of that but Lyra is clearly out of his strength class.I don't know how strong she is but she can compete with Jen. "

It was due to the Pocket Battlefield though. Noh-Varr had battled another "Hulk" inside of it in the past. "

" Bendis ruins everything "

" @Nobody said:

It was due to the Pocket Battlefield though. Noh-Varr had battled another "Hulk" inside of it in the past. "

Pocket Battlefield increases durability? "

It changes physics. As I stated though, Noh-Varr has continued to show a high resistance to blunt tramua taking his from Guy with Hulk powers, guy with Thing's strength, getting dropped from the sky, getting kicked miles away, taking hits from Namor, taking hits from She-Hulk, and now taking hits from Sentry. "

Why is it ridiculous if he is constantly shown at these levels?

" Why is it ridiculous if he is constantly shown at these levels? "

Noh-Varr isn't a street level character. He was never intended to be.

" Noh-Varr isn't a street level character. He was never intended to be. "

" @Nobody said: 

" Noh-Varr isn't a street level character. He was never intended to be. "

That's not what i'm saying.I'm saying his strength level suggests he's on one level and his durability is on a whole other plane.As in how Wolverine is basically a street leveler but his durability is on par with class 100's.     "

What about Luke Cage? Luke Cage has greater durability than Noh-Varr and they have an equal strength level. Though I'm guess that now Noh-Varr has the Nega-Bands, his strength level has been enhanced further. "

I'm pretty sure that Sentry and Namor were pulling their punches.

" I'm pretty sure that Sentry and Namor were pulling their punches. "

" @Nobody said:   "

What about Luke Cage? Luke Cage has greater durability than Noh-Varr and they have an equal strength level. Though I'm guess that now Noh-Varr has the Nega-Bands, his strength level has been enhanced further. "

I have seen Cage hurt by people in his strength class and below that...and I hate Luke Cage BTW.He doesn't have greater durability than Noh-Varr all the people you named Noh-Varr took shots from would one shot Cage. "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Nobody said:   "

What about Luke Cage? Luke Cage has greater durability than Noh-Varr and they have an equal strength level. Though I'm guess that now Noh-Varr has the Nega-Bands, his strength level has been enhanced further. "

I have seen Cage hurt by people in his strength class and below that...and I hate Luke Cage BTW.He doesn't have greater durability than Noh-Varr all the people you named Noh-Varr took shots from would one shot Cage. "

Really you do not like Luke Cage? Usually people love him I do, your the first I have seen say they hate him. "

" @Son_of_Magnus said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Nobody said:   "

What about Luke Cage? Luke Cage has greater durability than Noh-Varr and they have an equal strength level. Though I'm guess that now Noh-Varr has the Nega-Bands, his strength level has been enhanced further. "

I have seen Cage hurt by people in his strength class and below that...and I hate Luke Cage BTW.He doesn't have greater durability than Noh-Varr all the people you named Noh-Varr took shots from would one shot Cage. "

Really you do not like Luke Cage? Usually people love him I do, your the first I have seen say they hate him. "

I hate him first of all because his powers are boring.Second of all because he give my favorite hero (Daredevil) sh#t about things that don't even concern him,everything about him is a black cliche (ebonics,married to a white woman,grew up and was born in "the hood",used to speak in rhymes,is almost alway irrationally angry,has been to jail etc.).His mini series absolutely sucked.He bragged about screwing She-Hulk and Black Cat too hit wife and most of all...he doesn't have a uniform. "

I just like his attitude, something like he always believes in whats right for the common people and he is good to have around as character conflict for others heroes it makes it a more interesting story. They do have to ease up on the stereotypes though. I used to be not crazy about him never hated him but he grew on me I just like how he will give anyone sh!t he is someone you hate to love you need him in the story it just make for good conflict "

" @Son_of_Magnus said:

I just like his attitude, something like he always believes in whats right for the common people and he is good to have around as character conflict for others heroes it makes it a more interesting story. They do have to ease up on the stereotypes though. I used to be not crazy about him never hated him but he grew on me I just like how he will give anyone sh!t he is someone you hate to love you need him in the story it just make for good conflict "

He's needs something else.The token black guy thing is lame now.They need something else to make him more interesting. "

I think that is what Bendis is trying to do he like is in love with Cage. Cage was pretty much in charge of the New Avengers for a while there. Cage is becoming a way different character then the jive talking stereotype since Bendis took over I am noticing. "

" @Son_of_Magnus said:

I think that is what Bendis is trying to do he like is in love with Cage. Cage was pretty much in charge of the New Avengers for a while there. Cage is becoming a way different character then the jive talking stereotype since Bendis took over I am noticing. "

He was the worst leader in Avenger's history.Bendis didn't change Cage.He's stopped talking jive in the late 80's\90's but he's still the token.He has nothing that sets him apart from that. "

I never said he was a good leader but I just see Bendis shaping him into a different character he is than in the past that is just my opinion though "

" @Son_of_Magnus said:

I never said he was a good leader but I just see Bendis shaping him into a different character he is than in the past that is just my opinion though "

I know you didn't i'm saying he was a better leader when during Heroes for Hire.Now he's a joke.Thanks Bendis. "

Yep I wish Marvel would wake up and fire him "

" @Son_of_Magnus said:

Yep I wish Marvel would wake up and fire him "

How can they? Most of the books he writes are top sellers. "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Son_of_Magnus said:

Yep I wish Marvel would wake up and fire him "

How can they? Most of the books he writes are top sellers. "

I honestly think they would be top sellers even if he was not writing them.

So who enjoyed the New Avengers Annual? I thought it was very good and how they get things set up for Siege is truning out well, the only thing I felt was wrong with the issue is when it's set, is it after NA #60 or before? and if you see the last page (I won"t spoil it...kind of), you can clearly see that it's set after Cap: Reborn, but I was really surprised to see what had happened in the issue, I also thought seeing all of Clints past was a great way to really capture the character, to show what he's been through, and I loved the art, yeah there were a few panels where they could have fixed up the faces a little, but overall I liked the art and wish it as the art for the main series and not just the annual (but that's just my opinion...so don't quote this and tell me how wrong I am, because I know of you will, you know who I'm talking to). This is issue kicked butt, is I was G-Man, I'd give it a 4.5, great Annual.

I don't like that Captain America: Reborn isn't finished yet and we're already seeing Steve in current titles

" I don't like that Captain America: Reborn isn't finished yet and we're already seeing Steve in current titles "

Each week Dark Reign is building in a good way.  Ever since the announcing of Siege everythings been getting better.
 
 

"I don't like that Captain America: Reborn isn't finished yet and we're already seeing Steve in current titles "

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Yeah, Steve just poped up in Iron Man. Not that estatic at his return to be honist.

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" @Nobody said:

" I'm pretty sure that Sentry and Namor were pulling their punches. "

I would hope so because if he can take the best they have then I'm not even going to try and like him.Well that is after he's out of Bendis' hands.Nothing in Dark Avengers is worth a read accept the Annual. "

" @danhimself said:

"I don't like that Captain America: Reborn isn't finished yet and we're already seeing Steve in current titles "

I was kind of wondering about that, I can understand Steve poping up in NA Annual because he's returning to the book in #61, and since I think the annual takes place after #60 and right before Seige which takes place after Reborn, it kind of makes since, but I think Fraction may be going a little over bored and trying to take away Bendis's thunder (no pun intended) with having Cap('s), Thor, and Iron Man in his book, when they are supposed to reunite in Seige. "

" @War Killer said:

" @danhimself said:

"I don't like that Captain America: Reborn isn't finished yet and we're already seeing Steve in current titles "

I was kind of wondering about that, I can understand Steve poping up in NA Annual because he's returning to the book in #61, and since I think the annual takes place after #60 and right before Seige which takes place after Reborn, it kind of makes since, but I think Fraction may be going a little over bored and trying to take away Bendis's thunder (no pun intended) with having Cap('s), Thor, and Iron Man in his book, when they are supposed to reunite in Seige. "

between the fact that Reborn got an extra issue and the various delays then it ain't Fractions fault, as the series should have been finished by months now  Also whose bright idea was to release the aftermath of Captain America reborn before the series is over? Seriously "

Since Siege has officially kicked off, can we let this thread die?

"Since Siege has officially kicked off, can we let this thread die? "