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    Originally an idea concocted by Norman Osborn, the "Dark Avengers" were Osborn's own personal counterpart to the Avengers. The team has since become independent from Osborn's visions and mad quest for power.

    Dark Avengers after Dark Reign

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    #1  Edited By The_Martian

    Who do you think will make up the line up for Dark Avengers after Dark Reign ends?

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    #2  Edited By Mr. Wilson

    I don't know.  Maybe they will be like the new Masters of Evil or something. 

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    #3  Edited By The_Martian

    My Guess:
    Songbird(Leader)
    Noh-Varr
    War Machine
    Brother Voodoo
    Lyra
    Anti-Venom(Sadly)
    Deadpool(again Sadly)

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    #4  Edited By Mr. Wilson

    That would be so awesome!  I guess you think they will be the Darker heroes.  Anit-Venom and Deadpool sadly!?  C'mon Nobody!  Haha

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    #5  Edited By The_Martian
    @Mr. Wilson: I hate the idea of Anti-Venom. Worst thing they have done in BND. And Deadpool is just waiting to get on a team with his popularity. But yes, I see the Dark Avengers no longer being Norman's team and Darker heroes taking a stand.
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    #6  Edited By Mr. Wilson

    Thats a cool idea.  The team seems good to me.  I love those two characters though.  Do you think Ares would make the cut again?

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    #7  Edited By The_Martian

    I don't see Ares sticking around for another Avengers line up.

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    #8  Edited By TheBlueAngel93

    I see them becoming more like a Black Opps type of Avengers Team, with people like Wolverine on it

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    #9  Edited By The_Martian

    Eww...I hope not Wolverine:P

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    #10  Edited By sora_thekey

    Spider-Man should take over!!!

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    #11  Edited By TheBlueAngel93

    Just saying, he's on team like X-Force, so it makes since that he'd be on a darker team that deals with more "Bloody" problems

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    #12  Edited By The_Martian

    I don't know. We already have like three black ops teams in Marvel. I doubt we'll need another.

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    #13  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    I'm going to assume there will be no Dark Avengers when Dark Reign is over.

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    #14  Edited By The_Martian

    I doubt that, I heard its their highest selling title right now.

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    #15  Edited By Mr. Wilson
    @Nobody said:
    "I don't know. We already have like three black ops teams in Marvel. I doubt we'll need another."

    Yeah true.
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    #16  Edited By TheBlueAngel93

    Dark Avengers make Marvel money so I doubt they''ll get rid of them so fast

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    #17  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @Nobody said:
    " I doubt that, I heard its their highest selling title right now. "
    That may be but so was Secret Invasion...during Secret Invasion and Civil War...during Civil War.Dark Avengers is the segway to the whole Dark Reign event.Also,they don't recognize themselves as the Dark Avenges.Legally they are the only Avengers.You can't tell me if Marvel brought the core Avengers back they wouldn't take over the success of the Dark Avengers team.The Avengers back together again would be an event in itself.
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    #18  Edited By The_Martian
    @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " I doubt that, I heard its their highest selling title right now. "
    That may be but so was Secret Invasion...during Secret Invasion and Civil War...during Civil War.Dark Avengers is the segway to the whole Dark Reign event.Also,they don't recognize themselves as the Dark Avenges.Legally they are the only Avengers.You can't tell me if Marvel brought the core Avengers back they wouldn't take over the success of the Dark Avengers team.The Avengers back together again would be an event in itself. "
    I don't think we will ever go back to one Avengers team again. It makes Marvel too much money having them in different books.
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    #19  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @Nobody said:
    " @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " I doubt that, I heard its their highest selling title right now. "
    That may be but so was Secret Invasion...during Secret Invasion and Civil War...during Civil War.Dark Avengers is the segway to the whole Dark Reign event.Also,they don't recognize themselves as the Dark Avenges.Legally they are the only Avengers.You can't tell me if Marvel brought the core Avengers back they wouldn't take over the success of the Dark Avengers team.The Avengers back together again would be an event in itself. "
    I don't think we will ever go back to one Avengers team again. It makes Marvel too much money having them in different books. "
    Well they could do what they did back in the day.Have the Core Avengers and then the West Coast Avengers or Avengers by another name.
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    #20  Edited By The_Martian
    @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " I doubt that, I heard its their highest selling title right now. "
    That may be but so was Secret Invasion...during Secret Invasion and Civil War...during Civil War.Dark Avengers is the segway to the whole Dark Reign event.Also,they don't recognize themselves as the Dark Avenges.Legally they are the only Avengers.You can't tell me if Marvel brought the core Avengers back they wouldn't take over the success of the Dark Avengers team.The Avengers back together again would be an event in itself. "
    I don't think we will ever go back to one Avengers team again. It makes Marvel too much money having them in different books. "
    Well they could do what they did back in the day.Have the Core Avengers and then the West Coast Avengers or Avengers by another name. "
    Like Dark Avengers:P
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    #21  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @Nobody said:
    " @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " I doubt that, I heard its their highest selling title right now. "
    That may be but so was Secret Invasion...during Secret Invasion and Civil War...during Civil War.Dark Avengers is the segway to the whole Dark Reign event.Also,they don't recognize themselves as the Dark Avenges.Legally they are the only Avengers.You can't tell me if Marvel brought the core Avengers back they wouldn't take over the success of the Dark Avengers team.The Avengers back together again would be an event in itself. "
    I don't think we will ever go back to one Avengers team again. It makes Marvel too much money having them in different books. "
    Well they could do what they did back in the day.Have the Core Avengers and then the West Coast Avengers or Avengers by another name. "
    Like Dark Avengers:P "
    No..like Mighty Avengers.
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    #22  Edited By The_Martian

    I figured that if they ever made a "core" Avengers that it would go in the Mighty Avengers title.

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    #23  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @Nobody said:
    " I figured that if they ever made a "core" Avengers that it would go in the Mighty Avengers title. "
    It might.I still don't see the Dark Avengers sticking around.I think when Dark Reign is over the heroes will be back in complete control.A bunch of people who have no business calling themselves Avengers running around isn't going to fly.
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    #24  Edited By TheBlueAngel93

    Ultra Avengers!

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    #25  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @War Killer said:
    Ultra Avengers!
    Ultron Avengers? :P
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    #26  Edited By TheBlueAngel93
    @Vance Astro said:
    "@War Killer said:
    Ultra Avengers!
    Ultron Avengers? :P"
    I hope not, I would have said Ultimate Avengers, but Mark Millar mite have gotting mad at me
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    #27  Edited By The_Martian
    @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " I figured that if they ever made a "core" Avengers that it would go in the Mighty Avengers title. "
    It might.I still don't see the Dark Avengers sticking around.I think when Dark Reign is over the heroes will be back in complete control.A bunch of people who have no business calling themselves Avengers running around isn't going to fly. "
    I don't see a problem with it. Its not like the team would be run by villains anymore.
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    #28  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @Nobody said:
    " @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " I figured that if they ever made a "core" Avengers that it would go in the Mighty Avengers title. "
    It might.I still don't see the Dark Avengers sticking around.I think when Dark Reign is over the heroes will be back in complete control.A bunch of people who have no business calling themselves Avengers running around isn't going to fly. "
    I don't see a problem with it. Its not like the team would be run by villains anymore. "
    Then why would they be called "Dark Avengers"?
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    #29  Edited By The_Martian

    Cause they are "Dark" characters on the team. Its just a title. Its not like someone sees the New Avengers in the comics and refers to them as "New".

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    #30  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @Nobody said:
    " Cause they are "Dark" characters on the team. Its just a title. Its not like someone sees the New Avengers in the comics and refers to them as "New". "
    I don't know.This could happen.I just don't see the point.Maybe someone who isn't Bendis will write it and it will make some sense.I can't wait until the day Marvel is no longer dependent on Bendis.
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    #31  Edited By The_Martian
    @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " Cause they are "Dark" characters on the team. Its just a title. Its not like someone sees the New Avengers in the comics and refers to them as "New". "
    I don't know.This could happen.I just don't see the point.Maybe someone who isn't Bendis will write it and it will make some sense.I can't wait until the day Marvel is no longer dependent on Bendis. "
    Agreed.
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    #32  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    Since we are creating teams though for a Dark Avengers..I think this should be the team.

    1.Taskmaster
    2.War Machine
    3.Ant-Man
    4.Black Widow
    5.Ares
    6.Captain Marvel
    7.Songbird
    8.Brother Voodoo

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    #33  Edited By TheBlueAngel93
    @Vance Astro said:
    "Since we are creating teams though for a Dark Avengers..I think this should be the team.1.Taskmaster 2.War Machine3.Ant-Man4.Black Widow5.Ares6.Captain Marvel7.Songbird8.Brother Voodoo"
    Why Brother Voodoo?
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    #34  Edited By The_Martian
    @War Killer said:
    " @Vance Astro said:
    "Since we are creating teams though for a Dark Avengers..I think this should be the team.1.Taskmaster 2.War Machine3.Ant-Man4.Black Widow5.Ares6.Captain Marvel7.Songbird8.Brother Voodoo"
    Why Brother Voodoo? "
    Probably the same reason I chose him. He is the new SS.
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    #35  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @War Killer said:
    " @Vance Astro said:
    "Since we are creating teams though for a Dark Avengers..I think this should be the team.1.Taskmaster 2.War Machine3.Ant-Man4.Black Widow5.Ares6.Captain Marvel7.Songbird8.Brother Voodoo"
    Why Brother Voodoo? "
    He's the New Sorcerer Supreme and he needs a home comic.He deserves more respect than he gets.
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    #36  Edited By The_Martian

    I'm more curious about the choice of Ant-Man and Taskmaster(I'm assuming you meant the Thunderbolts Ant-Man).

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    #37  Edited By Mr. Wilson
    @Vance Astro said:
    "Since we are creating teams though for a Dark Avengers..I think this should be the team.1.Taskmaster 2.War Machine3.Ant-Man4.Black Widow5.Ares6.Captain Marvel7.Songbird8.Brother Voodoo"

    I don't like Taskmaster on the team since he battled the Avengers and this team has older Avengers on it but the rest is good.  I like Captain Marvel on the team.
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    #38  Edited By TheBlueAngel93
    @Nobody said:
    "I'm more curious about the choice of Ant-Man and Taskmaster(I'm assuming you meant the Thunderbolts Ant-Man)."
    I can see them on Dark Avengers, but I was thinking Brother Voodoo wold join the New Avengers and he's also has his own book coming out as well
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    #39  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @Nobody said:
    " I'm more curious about the choice of Ant-Man and Taskmaster(I'm assuming you meant the Thunderbolts Ant-Man). "
    I chose Taskmaster as the leader because he has worked on the side of good with the Initiative,he's a great person to train the team like Cap did the original Avengers and he has all of their abilities.
    I chose Ant-Man because his powers could be useful and he would be their comic relief character,instead of Deadpool.I actually find Ant-Man funny.
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    #40  Edited By The_Martian
    @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " I'm more curious about the choice of Ant-Man and Taskmaster(I'm assuming you meant the Thunderbolts Ant-Man). "
    I chose Taskmaster as the leader because he has worked on the side of good with the Initiative,he's a great person to train the team like Cap did the original Avengers and he has all of their abilities.I chose Ant-Man because his powers could be useful and he would be their comic relief character,instead of Deadpool.I actually find Ant-Man funny. "
    I didn't choose Deadpool cause I wanted him on the team:P
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    #41  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @Nobody said:
    " @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " I'm more curious about the choice of Ant-Man and Taskmaster(I'm assuming you meant the Thunderbolts Ant-Man). "
    I chose Taskmaster as the leader because he has worked on the side of good with the Initiative,he's a great person to train the team like Cap did the original Avengers and he has all of their abilities.I chose Ant-Man because his powers could be useful and he would be their comic relief character,instead of Deadpool.I actually find Ant-Man funny. "
    I didn't choose Deadpool cause I wanted him on the team:P "
    Why did you choose him then?
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    #42  Edited By TheBlueAngel93

    1. Wolverine - Leader
    2. Black Widow - Second in Command
    3. Deadpool
    4. Captain America (Barnes)
    5. Elektra
    6. Ant-Man (Eric O'Grandy)

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    #43  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @War Killer said:
    " 1. Wolverine - Leader2. Black Widow - Second in Command3. Deadpool4. Captain America (Barnes)5. Elektra6. Ant-Man (Eric O'Grandy) "
    You mean the real Wolverine or Daken?
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    #44  Edited By The_Martian
    @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " I'm more curious about the choice of Ant-Man and Taskmaster(I'm assuming you meant the Thunderbolts Ant-Man). "
    I chose Taskmaster as the leader because he has worked on the side of good with the Initiative,he's a great person to train the team like Cap did the original Avengers and he has all of their abilities.I chose Ant-Man because his powers could be useful and he would be their comic relief character,instead of Deadpool.I actually find Ant-Man funny. "
    I didn't choose Deadpool cause I wanted him on the team:P "
    Why did you choose him then? "
    Cause I feel that they would put him on the team. HIs popularity is at an all time high. He is a comic relief and is a darker character.
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    #45  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @Nobody said:
    " @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " @Vance Astro said:
    " @Nobody said:
    " I'm more curious about the choice of Ant-Man and Taskmaster(I'm assuming you meant the Thunderbolts Ant-Man). "
    I chose Taskmaster as the leader because he has worked on the side of good with the Initiative,he's a great person to train the team like Cap did the original Avengers and he has all of their abilities.I chose Ant-Man because his powers could be useful and he would be their comic relief character,instead of Deadpool.I actually find Ant-Man funny. "
    I didn't choose Deadpool cause I wanted him on the team:P "
    Why did you choose him then? "
    Cause I feel that they would put him on the team. HIs popularity is at an all time high. He is a comic relief and is a darker character. "
    I honestly hope not.
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    #46  Edited By The_Martian

    I agree. I put Anti-Venom on the team for a similar reason. For some reason, fans want to see Eddie Brock. Which is why they gave him powers once again. Now he just needs a home to appear in. Since he seems to be looking to go good, it would be fitting to be on a team of "heroes".

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    #47  Edited By TheBlueAngel93
    @Vance Astro said:
    "@War Killer said:
    " 1. Wolverine - Leader2. Black Widow - Second in Command3. Deadpool4. Captain America (Barnes)5. Elektra6. Ant-Man (Eric O'Grandy) "
    You mean the real Wolverine or Daken?"
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    #48  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    I wonder what will happen to Bucky as far as the Avengers when Steve returns.

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    #49  Edited By The_Martian

    I don't want him to stop being Captain America, but it would be weird for Steve not to be Cap while Bucky is. It would be weirder to have two Captain America's.

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    #50  Edited By TheBlueAngel93
    @Nobody said:
    "I don't want him to stop being Captain America, but it would be weird for Steve not to be Cap while Bucky is. It would be weirder to have two Captain America's."
    There's already three - Bucky Cap, 50's Cap, and I guess US Agent kind of counts

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