Why do you love/hate Damian Wayne?

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#51 Posted by InsaneArtisticNerd (22 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkman61288 said:

I like the idea of Batman having a child but I would prefer a daughter than a son on the grounds that a father/daughter relationship would have more depth.

He did adopt a girl before the n52, but there's no sign that she exists anymore =(

#52 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (1647 posts) - - Show Bio

@Decoy Elite said:

I'm not sure how I feel about Damian, mostly because I haven't read a lot of stuff with him in it. The concept behind the character is interesting, but I didn't really get pulled in to the early stuff with him. Haven't read Batman and Robin, but it looks like character development hit pretty well and the character seems to have grown pretty well. He at the very least has some very good moments for better or worse.

Definitely suggest you read him in Batman and Son (1st appearance) and then Batman and Robin and everything after to see just how hard the development did hit.

#53 Posted by BATMAN9797 (99 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate him because he is a whiny brat

ex: "I was trained by the league of assasins", "your not his real son",etc.

#54 Edited by BatWatch (2723 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Damian because he stands out from the crowd. He is a foil to everyone who interacts with him. He's an amazing fighter. He's got some awesome comebacks. He opens a lot of doors for the Bat Family as a son to Bruce and Dick and an annoying and psychotic little brother for Red Robin.

@darkman61288 said:

I like the idea of Batman having a child but I would prefer a daughter than a son on the grounds that a father/daughter relationship would have more depth.

He did adopt a girl before the n52, but there's no sign that she exists anymore =(

Yeah, Cass was adopted a couple of years before the reboot, but she was so independent of the family at that time that it really didn't have too much emotional weight.

@Decoy Elite said:

I'm not sure how I feel about Damian, mostly because I haven't read a lot of stuff with him in it. The concept behind the character is interesting, but I didn't really get pulled in to the early stuff with him. Haven't read Batman and Robin, but it looks like character development hit pretty well and the character seems to have grown pretty well. He at the very least has some very good moments for better or worse.

Definitely suggest you read him in Batman and Son (1st appearance) and then Batman and Robin and everything after to see just how hard the development did hit.

I concur. You get his starting point as a brat in Batman and Son, and then some development in Resurrection of Ra's Al Ghul, (though not a great story in the grand scheme), and then Batman and Robin all the way. You'd have to read The Battle for the Cowl to see how he became Robin. I have not read it, but I've heard mostly bad things.

I hate him because he is a whiny brat

ex: "I was trained by the league of assasins", "your not his real son",etc.

That's not really whiny. That's spoiled, prideful and entitled.

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#55 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (14683 posts) - - Show Bio

I love him.

#56 Posted by Geoschua (5 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Damian because he was a character designed to be hated from the start, but over the years made such leaps and bounds toward positive advancement and change. I was first a Tim Drake fan and quite disliked Damian at first. But, Damian's background forced me to see things from his perspective. Once I did that, it was easier to excuse his behavior. His progression was lightning-fast because the kid was super-smart and eventually understood what was best for him. How quickly he become a working member of the Bat family (regardless of some sibling rivalry to establish his place at the top) was astounding. The short duration of his run and the quick turnaround in how I felt for the character from hate to love was what made his death so unbearable for me.

The father-son relationship is sometimes a tough one, especially if it's a working relationship. I think the writing gets to the roots of a hardened father and son relationship. Themes like tough-love, pride, respect, angst, compliment- and affection-limited, and can-do-no-wrong attitudes run rampant in Batman and Robin and Batman, Inc. I think these themes fit their roles well. They were a perfect combo. I hope we get to see the dynamic again.

Does this cover release suggest he may be on his way back??? http://www.dccomics.com/comics/batman-and-2011/batman-and-nightwing-23

#57 Posted by RustyRoy (12715 posts) - - Show Bio

I love him, he was the coolest Robin ever, he was actually the only Robin who transformed from a Bad guy to a Good guy. I'll always remember him, and I really hope that they bring him back in a year or two.

#58 Edited by RustyRoy (12715 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the idea of Batman having a child but I would prefer a daughter than a son on the grounds that a father/daughter relationship would have more depth.

Why would a father/daughter relationship have more depth than a father/son relationship? I actually find Bruce's relationship with the Boy wonders (specially Damian and Tim) better than Casandra and Helena.

#59 Edited by smiling4ever (35 posts) - - Show Bio

I used to not like him. I like him a lot now. I also like that he has bucket loads of sass and attitude.He is funny.

#60 Posted by KingChronicle (15 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Damian due to his Kickass take charge attitude especially since his 10. Also he has a unique personality something I thought tim drake was lacking. I enjoy watching him challenge the other robins for the top dog position. I also like his costume.

#61 Posted by SlayerOFEVIL (43 posts) - - Show Bio

He's snobby, arrogant, a total jerk, and I freaking love him! For starters he's the son of Bruce Wayne, the original Batman, who is also kind of dick too. Damian is just such an awesome concept for Batman's partner. You can justify having him as a sidekick, because he was raised in the art of war, and is an actual assassin. The fact that he has killed challenges Bruce in ways, no other Robin ever has. Here his only blood relative, alive has murdered someone. With a Robin so dark it requires a lighter Batman, to balance him out. At first it was Dick, but since Damian wasn't so accustomed to dealing with someone who was as big a jerk as he is. He grew to act more violent once again. Bruce in response had to lighten up a bit, and eventually he was happy he had a son. It meant he wasn't all alone, and who knows. If Grant Morrison didn't decide to be a dick head, than Bruce could have moved past his parents deaths like Nightwing has. It shows that these characters can evolve. Plus Damian's overall personality is so interesting and flexible.

At first in Batman and Son, you kind of wanted him dead immediately. He kicked the shit out of Tim Drake, and went around just being a douche to everyone. But slowly in Batman and Robin, he begins to sneak up on you, and grow on you, and before you know it, you find yourself routing for him. I actually started routing for him, in issue 3 of Batman and Robin(Morrison run). He recieves a lap dance from the batshit crazy Proffesor Pyg and his reply, speaks for the reader.

On top of that, you have the scene when he beats Joker with a crowbar which was an awesome parody of Jason Todd's own attack. Then you have him in Batgirl vol. 3 when he hangs out with Steph Brown, it was some of the best character interaction in comics and I felt myself wanting them to become a dynamic duo. Of course there was his golden partnership with Dick Grayson. Peter Tomasi's run on Batman and Robin, had Damian at his absolutely most adorable. Especially the Annual, what he did for Bruce was really sweet and heart warming. Top it off with his rivalry with the man with the plan Tim Drake, his interaction with Supergirl, and his time as a Teen Titan. And you have one badass character. The kid, wanted to be Batman and was practically already there. Then Batman Inc 8 happened and it was by far one of the greatest moments in Damian's history. He was a full fledged hero and he wasn't afraid to show it, going as far as to fight to his last breath. That's how Bruce would have done it, and that's how Damian did it. His transformation from the asshole that no one liked to my favorite comic book character was really impressive. And I honestly find myself missing him, say what you will but I teared up a little when he died in Batman Inc 8, and even more so in Batman and Robin 18, heck even Nightwing 18. I'm really gonna miss him, and hope to see him again one day, until then I'll read Batman and Robin vol. 1 -2, Batgirl vol.3, and pretty much every other story including him, he was a worthwhile character and that's why I like him. So here's to Huntress finally meeting her daddy, he could really use some family right now. And Dick Grayson would help too.

#62 Posted by Dayvid3 (807 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought he was great. This was my first non cartoon foray into a robin, so can't compare, but I was always rooting for him to go the good path and not become a killer, but I liked the edge a lot too.

#63 Posted by KingDII (1 posts) - - Show Bio

He kicked Alfred

YOU NEVER HURT ALFRED

#64 Posted by Klad (5 posts) - - Show Bio

Damian fan here.

I like Damian because, at the raw age of 10, he's already a better fighter than Tim, a better intellect than Jason, and more badass than Dick. His potential is limitless, compared to the other Robins.

#65 Posted by kasino (1785 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate him. no personal growth. he pretty much killed off Tim. he is what everyone hated about jason before he was Red Hood, who was a hard nose street kid, while being an entitled brat.

#66 Edited by kleo_94 (90 posts) - - Show Bio

Heh, I still don't know how anyone can like this little shit. Literally, I hate this brat. He's mostly annoying, and, as said many times before, he spoiled the dynamic in Batfamily. I respect Jason, I love Dick, and I immediately grew to love Tim, but Damian, him I just can't stand. [Mentioning only Bruce's sons, to be clear.]

Sorry to say, because I know how many fans Damian has, but I just loved it that they killed him off. I was so freaking happy to see he's gone at last, I guess even too much, that now I worry DC's going to bring him back, somehow. And I dread to think that may happen one day and spoil everything all over again.

#67 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13138 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont think i could ever brig myself to like him but i dont hate him anymore. thats something i guess.

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#68 Edited by ComicStooge (12814 posts) - - Show Bio

@kasino said:

I hate him. no personal growth. he pretty much killed off Tim. he is what everyone hated about jason before he was Red Hood, who was a hard nose street kid, while being an entitled brat.

No personal growth? He grew more as a character in the New 52 then Tim did in his entire run as a character. Tim just morphed into a 2nd rate Batman.

A lot of Tim Drake fans have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to Damian, as they should. He's a superior character and makes Tim obsolete and quite useless outside of the Teen Titans.

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