Off My Mind: When Will We See Damian Wayne's Clone?
In Batman and Robin #12, Damian told his mother that Robin was who he wanted to be rather than side with her. Talia's response was was that she was preparing another Damian from his DNA. How long until we see our Damian fight this Damian-Clone?
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Talia told Damian that the copy would be ten years younger than him when he's born. The chances of it actually taking ten years of comic book continuity time seems pretty slim. Even if it did take that long, we have seen Damian as an adult a couple times with no mention of his clone.
In Batman #666, it's an adult Damian fighting the evil in Gotham. We don't get a full recap of what Damian's been up to, only hints, so it's possible he could have had to face a ten year old younger version of himself.
There was also Ibn al Xu'ffasch (which translateas to Son of the Bat) in Kingdom Come who was the son of Batman and Talia. Again, there's no mention of a younger version and we don't see this Damian in action (except for the follow up The Kingdom which is another story).
In Teen Titans #18, the team is sent ten years into the future. In a graveyard at Arkham Asylum, full of Batman related heroes and villains, a tombstone for Ibn ah Xu'ffasch is seen when Tim Drake is fighting his adult self. Is this grave for Damian or for his younger clone?
Kingdom Come has been designated as occurring in a different Universe (Earth-22) and Batman #666 is a possible future. We know things can easily change, especially when new writers or editorial teams take over.
The fact that Grant Morrison had Talia show Damian (and us) that another Damian-Clone was cooking in a giant test tube tells me that this isn't the last we'll see of him. Whether or not this will be a good idea will obviously depend on how it's written. Is Damian going to every go by the name Ibn ah Xu'ffasch or will that be the name his clone uses? We may have clones popping up left and right for most characters and it is very cliche but I would love to see an older Damian have to fight a ten year old version of himself. It would be like some sort of karma that he would have to face his younger self. Maybe after they fought, Damian would be able to show him the error of his ways and have to try to raise him himself. That would be the ultimate payback, don't you think?
Thanks to BOPFAN#3 for bringing up the idea of the clone and making me think about it.
I think Morrison will follow up on this it's not like him to just introduce something and ignore it it all comes together. I think the clone will age superfast and I think he was The Heretic in Batman The Return since when he confronted Damian he told him that they were the same.
I hate clones. There are few exceptions like Connor Kent. But generally I hate clones. It usually ruins things. Do we all remember the clone saga storyline with Spidey ? That was just a headache. I prefer Damian & Ibn being one and the same.
"I hate clones. There are few exceptions like Connor Kent. But generally I hate clones. It usually ruins things. Do we all remember the clone saga storyline with Spidey ? That was just a headache. I prefer Damian & Ibn being one and the same. "
I agree with you on that one. Connor Kent AKA Superboy is a clone I also am fond of but this whole clone thing pertaining to Damian....me no likey.... Funny you mention the Spider-Clone Saga, because ol' G-Man loves the Scarlet Spider.
Realizing she made a mistake with her first son. Talia will age the second Damian to adulthood with very specific instructions and loyalty programmed into its brain. This adult Damian will show the young Damian just what he might turn into if he continues his present course. Weather this is good or bad or not only time will tell.
" I hope writers will leave this to the side for a few years at least. It'd have such a better impact if used after a long period rather than an overkeen writer come in and ruin a slow burner. "I agree. Wait several years.
I'm NEVER a fan of clones, but I think it could be fun to show a possible future where 20 year old Damian, maybe just taking the mantle from Tim, has to fight a 10 year old version of himself that's just as annoying as he is now. Always fun to have characters go "my god, I really was a brat back then." I also think it would be HILARIOUS if, in that scenario, Damian-clone decided to become Damian's Robin. I mean how freaking funny would that be?
Looking at how Morrison writes, that he doesn't throw out anything at all, hell he brought back Bat-mite, the red phone to police head quarters, and the entire silver age. I'm starting to think that Son of the Demon is where Damian came from, but that the Damian we currently see is a clone of the child Talia gave away. You can say what you like about Talia but there is no denying she is a
nurturer at heart. She always took care of her father, she became a mother to Jason, she is a very caring woman when it comes to people she loves. I have a hard time believing that she would repeatedly send her own son to be beaten within an inch of his life by assassins. I think that she cloned the child she gave away at the end of Son of the Demon, and this clone is the Damian we know.
I'm not a big fan of clone stories i general, the clone saga killed Spider-Man. But saying that I loved the Scarlet Spider and Superboy as well but both were around for sometime. Damian reminds me of Jason Todd but with a biological connection to Bruce, not a fan but neither a hater. I think once Bruce is back and Damian has calmed down ultimately accepting his father's way, his character will become balance and accepted by the public. But dropping a clone into the mix too early will just bring the series more cliches which would do more harm than good.
@Neverpraying: That is the whole "fun" thing about Damian. You aren't entirely certain to a degree given his maternal pedigree, but thus far he is just acting like a tool for lack of a better explanation.
Cool! You can count yours truly as one who did read a good portion of the storyline, though, and yes, I wasn't too keen on thinking that Spider-Man may have been a clone. Still, it did inject some interest in Spider-Man. In hindsight, that whole storyline is far more digestible than say...some other..."brand new days"...for Peter Parker. OK, I won't gripe too much about that. Maybe!
I really hope we don't have to deal with anymore clones anytime soon!!! Especially the clone of a genetically created (test tube baby) of Batman and Talia!!! Luckily Damian will have to be nearly 20 before we deal with that which gives us some time... unless they quicken his aging process... oh, I so do REALLY hate clones!!! :os
Grant Morrison is a freaking genius , Love the unorthodox creative direction of the batman universe if only Mark Millar would have taken better notes but oh well .
Long Live Grant Morrison ! ( Hope his run will be the greatest of all time!) also I hope his clone problem will pan out into something really really big ! (and the Damian clone should team up with Jason Todd! to bring down the bat once and for all !)
It would be great if the clone went unmentioned, yet uncontradicted, for a number of years (comic time). Then, once he's faded into obscurity, somebody springs him back onto us. I doubt that will happen though given how slow comic time can be compared to real time.
Here's something to think about, the 'Damian Wayne' in 666 and grant morrison's future is pretty damned hard he kills with extreme prejudice. What if the 'Damian' we've seen is the clone?
Don't get me wrong I could see Damian go down this path but it's a little off the beaten path for Bruce, Dick, Tim, Superman etc. to let this happen
i bet at some point someone else will steal the clone and use advance tech ( Luthor or Brainiac or the like) to speed up the process.
Either that, or they plan to kill Damion at some point, and the alternative is to download his brain into the clone.
Man is Damian popular right now. I must admit that Im actually starting to like the pompous little jerk myself. He's coming around. He actually trusts Dick, which is what changing him. I still don't like the idea that he's 10. To young. It worked for the more kid friendly comics for when the first 2 Robins were around, but not so much now. No 10 year old can beat up a some what decent fighting adult. No strength, no weight behind punches and kicks. No. no. no.
Probably some future Damain batman villain in some one-shot/mini-series they make. Otherwise, not really, seein as he'll age like a normal human(she did say younger brother), like Damian himself. 10 year dif means plenty, even if not much to comics~
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