Should Havok still be immune to Scott's Stare?

#1 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

As in his optic blast. Now that Cyclop's blasts are phoenix altered would this be a good time to get rid of that immunity?

#2 Posted by PrinceIMC (5421 posts) - - Show Bio

I think he still should. I hope the actual energy of Scott's beams haven't changed just his power output and what he can do with them has. I hope anyway.

#3 Posted by God_Spawn (36000 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceIMC said:

I think he still should. I hope the actual energy of Scott's beams haven't changed just his power output and what he can do with them has. I hope anyway.

That seems to be the case now anyway. He's just massively supercharged since he wasn't controlling them all too well. The spirals and what not could just be like only parts of the blast were focused hence the straight blasts with other parts whipping everywhere.

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#4 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceIMC: What do you like about the immunity though?

#5 Posted by PrinceIMC (5421 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar said:

@PrinceIMC: What do you like about the immunity though?

I think they should still be immune to each other's blasts and be able to use each others blasts to charge themselves up.

#6 Edited by oviouslyjeangrey (400 posts) - - Show Bio

So he is able to control his blast or optic beam. Kind of like a Green Lantern, but red? I mean its only energy coming out of his eyes right? I think it would be really cool if he could control it and shape it. Maybe not as good as a Green Lantern but still. So maybe he will be able to throw sharp rings of energy out of his eyes instead of a beam and create a shield with it too.

#7 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceIMC: You like the charging up?

@oviouslyjeangrey: It's not like the Green Lantern's power at all, it's pure kinetic energy it has to be always moving.

#8 Posted by PrinceIMC (5421 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar said:

@PrinceIMC: You like the charging up?

@oviouslyjeangrey: It's not like the Green Lantern's power at all, it's pure kinetic energy it has to be always moving.

Yeah I like the fact that Alex and Scott can charge up each others blasts with their own.

I don't really want Scott to make shields of shapes with his optic blasts but maybe curve it around corners, fire multiple blasts in multiple directions and perhaps even randomly change directions on the way to a target like Darkseid's omega beams. Those are the things I'd like to see.

#9 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceIMC: I would love it if his power became less like a sledgehammer and more like billions of needles penetrating an object with immense power, or more use of his mastery of spatial geometry

#10 Posted by oviouslyjeangrey (400 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar: Ok well maybe not a shield, but he could still shoots rings or curve them at least. I hope he keeps his visor forever though.

#11 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

@oviouslyjeangrey: Well that's your opinion on that matter, and I acknowledge it.

#12 Posted by oviouslyjeangrey (400 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar: Thank You.

#13 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4365 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't really want Scott to make shields of shapes with his optic blasts but maybe curve it around corners, fire multiple blasts in multiple directions and perhaps even randomly change directions on the way to a target like Darkseid's omega beams. Those are the things I'd like to see.

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#14 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3275 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceIMC said:

@TheCrowbar said:

@PrinceIMC: You like the charging up?

@oviouslyjeangrey: It's not like the Green Lantern's power at all, it's pure kinetic energy it has to be always moving.

Yeah I like the fact that Alex and Scott can charge up each others blasts with their own.

I don't really want Scott to make shields of shapes with his optic blasts but maybe curve it around corners, fire multiple blasts in multiple directions and perhaps even randomly change directions on the way to a target like Darkseid's omega beams. Those are the things I'd like to see.

I like this idea. I am in favor of forcefield based powers like Susan Storm's or Quasar's, but I kind of like the idea of Scott gaining omega beams.

I'm not sure if they retconned the origin of Cyclop's energy source, but I thought the only reason he and Havok were immune to each other's blasts was because they were variants of similar energy sources/genetic matrixes: Scott's were powered by solar, extradimensional energy while Havok's were cosmic.

#15 Posted by One_Eye (783 posts) - - Show Bio

@PhoenixoftheTides said:

@PrinceIMC said:

@TheCrowbar said:

@PrinceIMC: You like the charging up?

@oviouslyjeangrey: It's not like the Green Lantern's power at all, it's pure kinetic energy it has to be always moving.

Yeah I like the fact that Alex and Scott can charge up each others blasts with their own.

I don't really want Scott to make shields of shapes with his optic blasts but maybe curve it around corners, fire multiple blasts in multiple directions and perhaps even randomly change directions on the way to a target like Darkseid's omega beams. Those are the things I'd like to see.

I like this idea. I am in favor of forcefield based powers like Susan Storm's or Quasar's, but I kind of like the idea of Scott gaining omega beams.

I'm not sure if they retconned the origin of Cyclop's energy source, but I thought the only reason he and Havok were immune to each other's blasts was because they were variants of similar energy sources/genetic matrixes: Scott's were powered by solar, extradimensional energy while Havok's were cosmic.

Personally, I hope that Scott is able to harm Havok with his optic blast just for sheer surprise factor. Then again I'm not a fan of Havok. Would make for an amusing battle.

#16 Posted by Teerack (4552 posts) - - Show Bio

I always liked how siblings couldn't use their powers on each other unless they were something really simple like super speed.

#17 Posted by spetsnaz_gru (235 posts) - - Show Bio

@Teerack said:

I always liked how siblings couldn't use their powers on each other unless they were something really simple like super speed.

Now we know why the Klitschko's won't fight each other.

#18 Posted by slimlim (254 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think that Marvel cares much about that.

In the original AOA, Cyclops was taken down by Havok's blast.

For me, i think unless it serves a story purpose, immunity to each other's powers is not important. I'm much more interested in HOW exactly his Optic Blasts will be altered.

I hope its not too different. No forming of shapes and stuff please. Some angle control, be it changing direction in swirls or "omega beam" style could be interesting.

I really feel it should be more about RAW POWER that needs to be controlled. Like Blackbolt. With Cyclops its all about control. Be it over his powers, or the situation he's in. Thats what makes him such a great combat general and strategist. We've seen before that his blasts can do some pretty serious damage, but what if his power can now stop even the Hulk? The catch being, the more power he lets out, the less control he has over it. Previously without his visor, power just pours out of him at full blast. What if he can exact a lot more control over the strength of the blast without the tuning of his visor?

#19 Posted by DarkxSeraph (672 posts) - - Show Bio

" With Cyclops its all about control. Be it over his powers, or the situation he's in. "

Save for the fact that in Astonishing, he pretty much admitted the core of his inability to control was due to his own decision NOT to try to control them. An interesting talk with him and Emma. I suggest checking it out.

#20 Posted by Madame_Mist (1325 posts) - - Show Bio

It must suck not being able to use your superpower on an annoying younger sibling.

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