Off My Mind: Could Cyclops Be a Skrull?

#1 Edited by Teerack (7457 posts) - - Show Bio

A thought came to me recently.Could it be possible that Scott is a skrull?

The way I see it is he would have been swapped out with the Skrull around the time him and Emma started dating. That was when he too major leaps in his morning by moving on to Emma, and also started to act like a different person and was suddenly full of doubts as if he wasn't used to being the leader of the X-Men. And before anyone says Emma Frost would have been able to tell with her telepathy even Charles Xavier couldn't tell if someone was a Skrull.

Now this is where the thought comes to mind. The X-Men didn't interact with the rest of the super heroes during the invasion. The role of the X-Men was very isolated, so it's very possible for a Skrull to slip by if they were in the X-Men. Next is how the Skrulls reacted to the X-Men. they were completely shocked by the presence of X-Men. Now I find it hard to believe that the X-Men would be over looked by the skrulls. It makes me think that their agent in the X-Men might of betrayed them, and given into the persona they were posing as, and that's not such a crazy thing because there was the one Skrull in the initiative that decided he liked living on earth as a hero better then fighting for the skurlls, the first Hank Pym Skrull was killed because he was starting to act too much like Hank Pym, and the Mar-Vell Skrull decided to be Mar-Vell and not the Skrull he really was. so I don't think it would be too crazy for a Skrull to take Scott's place and then found that the mind of Scott Summers was too much for him and fully embraced the role as Cyclops. Also all of Cyclops' close friends that have know him for years now hate him and can hardly believe that it was Scott that did all of this, as if it wasn't Scott at all. And I know Scott wasn't with the rest of the people they saved, but then again neither was Blackbolt because they wanted to use him as a weapon, and when Scott fully cuts loose his eye blast are likely stronger then any blast a Skrull cruiser could make.

In All New X-Men young Scott ran off on his own. Maybe he'll be the one to save real Scott? After all the whole reason the young x-men came back was to save Scott. Also They just had the traitor advertisement.

#2 Posted by JonSmith (4010 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh, I'm not going to say it's impossible. Because Marvel. But I am going to say it's unlikely. Scott's had a lot of character development over the last few years or so. Having him be a Skrull would just be redundant given whose currently wandering around: Young Cyclops. From an out of universe standpoint: What's the point of having Young Cyclops run around, telling Old Scott that he's wrong, and how Scott isn't like this, if you're just going to bring in the 'real' Scott from the Skrulls who'd be singing the exact same tune?

#3 Posted by Matchstick (565 posts) - - Show Bio

I find that extremely unlikely due to his close relationships with some of the worlds most powerful telepaths and the fact that he's surrounded by people that have known him and been close to him for decades. Because of this he is possibly the worst person to try to replace with a Skrull imposter. He's simply too high profile to risked such an important plan on.

#4 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio

This would be a wonderful way to retcon Scott turning into a supervillain.

Too bad it won't happen.

#5 Posted by Teerack (7457 posts) - - Show Bio

@Matchstick: One of the biggest facts about the Skrull invasion was that telepathy couldn't see through their disguise. Even Charles Xavier who easily out ranked Emma Frost in telepathy couldn't tell. Your second point I didn't really think about, but it actually add to my point. All of his close friends that have known him for years don't like him and can't believe a lot of the things he's done. Half of them can't even accept what Scott has become.

#6 Edited by Teerack (7457 posts) - - Show Bio

@JonSmith: I don't think it be possible for Marvel to think of a better character to expose Skrull Scott and save Real Scott, than Young Scott. To be honest. Considering the plot of all new x-men is basically bring back the original X-Men to try and save Cyclops if you think about it.

#7 Posted by John Valentine (16335 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, hey, 2008.

#9 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@Teerack: I would like to offer you an editorial position at Marvel Comics sir. As much as I love this idea I have to ask, what would the Skrull's purpose be? Personally I would like it to be Apocalypse. Meaning 'Pocky's been controlling the X-Men and mutantdom for over ten years and NOBODY knew. I would pay a $10 cover for that.

#10 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

No his fall is natural to the evolution of the character. It's some of Marvel's best work.

#11 Posted by Teerack (7457 posts) - - Show Bio

@chasereis: I think his purpose would of just been to help the skrulls take over earth, but then having the mind of Scott Summers in his mind was too much for him and just chose to become Scott Summers. Unless you mean what his role would be after he was outed. That i haven't really thought about. Maybe join up with Mystique or something?

#12 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@Teerack: works for me.

#13 Posted by Imperius_Rex (452 posts) - - Show Bio

No way it's cyke the Phoenix would have known if he got the full PF he would have gone skrull and crapped on earth. I think Phoenix would have rejected him anyway. And now his mutation is changing. I don't think a skrull would be capable mutating.

#14 Edited by Teerack (7457 posts) - - Show Bio

@Imperius_Rex: Skrulls did mutate when they were exposed to the Terrigen Mists, and skulls are one of the most adaptable races in the galaxy. And I don't see what the Phoenix knowing it was a skrull would have changed. All of the Phoenix Five were unworthy hosts. That was kind of the point of the entire second act of AvX.

#15 Posted by Imperius_Rex (452 posts) - - Show Bio

The PF only chooses mutants as hosts. So the PF. A cosmic entity would sure as hell know the difference and would reject the skrull. But disregard that. If that "skrull" had the full PH he would have no reason to stay cyclops would he? He'd just destroy earth right? An I Sure they can mutate. But I'm saying they can't replicate mutant evolution. I'm talking a mutants natural evolution of their very DNA. Trust me I've read enough skrull to know how well they can shapeshift down to a molecular level. I'm just saying all their powers are acting goofy. If he is not a real mutant why would his powers be changing? It just doesn't make sense. The traitor is Emma or magik. No doubt.

#16 Posted by Imperius_Rex (452 posts) - - Show Bio

Also I dont think they were viewed by the PF as unworthy hosts. I think they proved to be unworthy by themselves. Otherwise the PF wouldn't have wasted its time with them in the first place.

#17 Posted by Teerack (7457 posts) - - Show Bio

@Imperius_Rex: You're missing the point of my theory though. The Skull WANTS to be Cyclops in my theory like the way the Captain Marvel Skrull did. So he wouln't turn back into a Skrull. Also The Captain Marvel Skurll was such a complete copy that he couldn't shape shift anymore.

And the phoenix isn't just hosted by people who are mutants... There have been a lot of non mutant hosts Rook'shir, Feron, Necrom, Prime, Amber Hunt, Foxfire, Korvus, Mar-Vell, and the really important red haired human girl named Fongji from AvX.

#18 Posted by danhimself (22720 posts) - - Show Bio

Mr Fantastic created a device that could detect skrulls and everyone was cleared after Secret Invasion

#19 Posted by Imperius_Rex (452 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah dude right when I posted that I recalled a certain spider Phoenix. (spider man as Phoenix). That was hilarious. But I see what you mean now. You don't think he's waiting for a second skrull invasion but he wants to be cyclops altogether. But didn't cyke walk out of that ship with all the other heroes in that skrull saga. Idk maybe I'm wrong.

#20 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23238 posts) - - Show Bio

Bendis has said the Skrulls are extinct. Stupid b*stard.

Anyway, the answer is clear as day, though marvel would much prefer just to completely ruin Cyclops because they're a company of f*ckwits.

CYKE SHOULD BE CONTROLLED BY SUBLIME

#21 Posted by Teerack (7457 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself: They didn't check everyone. Abigail Brand even says there are a lot of skulls still hiding on earth in the Spider-Woman Agent of S.W.O.R.D. mini series.

@Imperius_Rex: Nah the x-men had no interaction with anything that happened in the secret invasion other then killing all the skrulls in San Francisco.

@FadeToBlackBolt: Out of all the writers that work at marvel taking Brian Michael Bendis word for something like this sounds the most hilarious. Also it be kind of over his head to make a decision like that.

#22 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23238 posts) - - Show Bio

@Teerack: Brian Michael Bendis may be one of the worst human beings alive, but he has a lot of pull in Marvel, and is a favourite of the editors (who are equally awful people).

#23 Edited by Teerack (7457 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt: True, but I have a hard time believing something being confirmed by him when he disregards comic cannon when ever it's convenient to him.

#24 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23238 posts) - - Show Bio

@Teerack: Yes, he does that, but sadly, the rest of the writers have to fall in line, because, equally sadly, most comic readers are idiots who buy his terrible comics.

#25 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (15132 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt: He does write a hell of a Daredevil. I would just give him credit for that.

#26 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23238 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective: Eh, it's average at best. He had help from phenomenal art and a total disregard for any writers following.

#27 Posted by Yung ANcient One (4899 posts) - - Show Bio
This Skrull idea/cop-out can be used on any Marvel character, but I find it corny. (+)
#28 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (15132 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt: Have you been reading End of Days?

#29 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23238 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective: F**************************************Ck no lol

Marvel are getting no more of my money until they make Cyclops a hero again and bring back Peter Parker.

#30 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (15132 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt: It is actlully pretty good. And they need to make Cyclops like he was in the 90s, also how long do you think the whole Superior thing is going to last? I give it a year.

#31 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23238 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarkKnightDetective: However long it lasts is too long lol

I'm just hoping the sales plummet and Slott gets kicked off Spider-Man.

#32 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (15132 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt: I give it 12 issues until the sales go to hell.

#33 Posted by HopesummersFORtheFUTURE (4203 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

Bendis has said the Skrulls are extinct. Stupid b*stard.

Anyway, the answer is clear as day, though marvel would much prefer just to completely ruin Cyclops because they're a company of f*ckwits.

CYKE SHOULD BE CONTROLLED BY SUBLIME

thats too scary.....i think

#34 Posted by fury714 (589 posts) - - Show Bio

Nah, I doubt it. It would be too easy of a way out for Scott. And I am so gonna be pissed off if he was a Skrull.

#35 Posted by xmentas (175 posts) - - Show Bio

lol

#36 Edited by GrandSymbiote94 (11724 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@DarkKnightDetective: F**************************************Ck no lol

Marvel are getting no more of my money until they make Cyclops a hero again and bring back Peter Parker.

This is for the mention of Peter Parker.  
 
OPEN IF YOU DARE. 
 

    
#37 Posted by Agent9149 (2868 posts) - - Show Bio

If it turns out he's a skull I'm flipping the table over and screaming bloody murder.

#38 Posted by TDK_1997 (15097 posts) - - Show Bio

That's probably the best thing that could happen to Cyclops now.

#39 Posted by DarkxSeraph (672 posts) - - Show Bio

Making him a skrull would be a ridiculous cop-out on Marvel's end, to be honest. Something of this magnitude with the decisions he's made and the character's evolution over the years would have been for naught and readers would be left feeling cheated. This, alone, is reason enough for them not to go through with a plan like this.

#40 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997 said:

That's probably the best thing that could happen to Cyclops now.

Could not agree more. Hell if the issue came out and it was Morph? Ok I'll take it.

Actually the Skull BEING a mutant of its own species could explain it. I don't recall anywhere it being explained in conjunction to being a "human" mutant (anyone know this for fact?) Perhaps the metamorphic power of the mutant skrull being possessed by the phoenix was enough to disrupt its complete copying process and now it cannot control itself or its copied powers much like mimic couldn't.

@Teerack said:

@FadeToBlackBolt: True, but I have a hard time believing something being confirmed by him when he disregards comic cannon when ever it's convenient to him.

This a major problem in Marvel. It is even more prevalent now since Quesada's run as EIC. I personally feel Morrison, Seagle, Kelly and Fraction pissed on everyone who wrote the books before them. Everyone else has had the unpleasant job of cleaning the mess they made while trying to tell a compelling story.

#41 Posted by Lorrie (27 posts) - - Show Bio

Why would people want to ruin Scott's character development by making him a Skrull or something? He's more interesting than ever. He's going to be the lead character of Uncanny X-Men. I don't understand what people are fretting about.

#42 Posted by Imperfect (22 posts) - - Show Bio

If he is a Skrull then it gotta be really suck for Emma.

#43 Posted by Teerack (7457 posts) - - Show Bio

@Imperfect: Yeah, but at least she didn't have a baby with a Skrull like Tigra lol.

#44 Posted by boob (363 posts) - - Show Bio

 I don't see how, unless one of them was able to bypass Cyclops blockers and gain his memories. Memories that he didn't even remember. Such as his time in the orphanage. Then when Jean was in the White hot room she mentally went back in time and gave a push for Scott to except Emma completely. She would have known that it was a Skrull the second that she went into his mind, even without the Phoenix's powers to help her.  

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