Does Emma still love Scott?

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#51 Posted by x_29 (2274 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course.

#52 Posted by SC (13105 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably still loves him sure. She needs someone to massage her shoulders and feet and Banshee is still dead so... speaking of fictional characters though, I wouldn't be surprised if Emma and Cyclops split in the future, or stayed together there are pros and cons to either. Grant Morrison was the one to put them together and if he stayed on X-Men he probably would have broke them up. So Emma and Scotts future depends on the big name writers and or X-Men editors and their vision for the X-Books. For a while there Cyclops was the guy who made the tough decisions (but was always right of course) so morally grey in the narrative but as shiny white from the creative story angle, that is... until he ran into red white and blue and AVX which still colored him in the narrative as a shade of grey, a dark shade but creatively they made him Civil War Iron Man 2.0 as in a great and fair alternative to Captain America's ideas and motivations! I really really got that from the writers - definitely no need to project or take an apologist stance based on how I imagine the character should be. How is this relevant to Emma? Well its a test of her cheerleader skills. She ain't got no alibi.  
 
Does Marvel want Emma the pretentious intellectual, elitist ego that know she has to impart her ethics and wisdom to all the poor deluded lost children and man babies out there who happens to share a bed with the Cyclops or not share a bed. Or does Marvel want Emma the cheerleader, the mafia wife who wears white lingerie and is best characterized when making insulting and witty remarks to anyone who attacks Cyclops integrity because she loves him and she can see his soul and mind and its just like yours dear reader and its beeeeuuutttiiifffulll and so so special and you are so under recognized and under appreciated, you might not be funny like Iceman (who isn't really funny) or rich like Angel, or intelligent like Beast (that hypocrite!) but you make the hard decisions and you try and something something... Naturally its not all about Emma, is also contingent on whether Marvel wants "Morrison Cyclops" or "Fraction Cyclops". I'm wishing for more Morrison styled Cyclops in the future with non Cheerleader mode Emma myself - if they are still together. Or at least until Banshee returns. 

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#53 Posted by Crimsonlord53 (1332 posts) - - Show Bio

My votes for option #1 please.

#54 Posted by Darksider555 (399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Crimsonlord53 said:

My votes for option #1 please.

unfortunatly Bendis confired that they are no longer a thing... :(((

#55 Posted by RemyThePirate (5 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah... Kinda bummed... I'd hate for Namor to step in though.

However, I'm happy that Emma is still in Uncanny X-Men.

#56 Posted by Dernman (15074 posts) - - Show Bio

@Darksider555 said:

@Crimsonlord53 said:

My votes for option #1 please.

unfortunatly Bendis confired that they are no longer a thing... :(((

Where cause I read something different from someone else?

#57 Posted by PassionFlower (960 posts) - - Show Bio

@RemyThePirate said:

Yeah... Kinda bummed... I'd hate for Namor to step in though.

However, I'm happy that Emma is still in Uncanny X-Men.

I agree, damn why they got me feeling for Emma? I knew I loved to hate her don't tell me I actually liked her, period.

#58 Posted by xmentas (175 posts) - - Show Bio

what '_' read the article people!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=42120

Bendis' team consists of Cyclops and the remnants of his Extinction Team: Magneto, Magik and Emma Frost. While Bendis states the romance between Cyclops and Emma is finished, readers will get to see the fallout in the pages of "Uncanny."

"The romance is done. They are not together anymore romantically," Bendis said. "It's pretty hard to come back from what they went through in Avengers Vs. X-Men. Things were said, powers were stolen, and as we will discover in the very first issues of 'Uncanny X-Men,' some things happen between them that cannot be taken back."

#59 Posted by Darksider555 (399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dernman: newsarama,cbr and comicbookmovies...a damm shame....

#60 Posted by alka_seltzer (13 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry to burst your bubble of pure delusion, @God_spawn, but there is nothing remotely realistic about Emma Frost and Scott Summers, as well as there's nothing remotely original about Frosts character (but that's for a next tale).

#61 Edited by God_Spawn (37877 posts) - - Show Bio

@alka_seltzer: I like how nothing you just said had any bearing on what I said. If you want to necro an old thread and tell me I'm delusional at least have a valid and unbiased point.

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#62 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio

nyet. emma only loves fish face

#63 Posted by Mercy_ (92695 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes

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#64 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio

@mercy_ said:

Yes

how do you explain this then?

#65 Posted by God_Spawn (37877 posts) - - Show Bio

At this point it is pretty clear they still do.

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#66 Posted by alka_seltzer (13 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn You're my favourite poster on here. I just wanted you to reply to me.

<3 ❤

#67 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: I agree completely. Emma is a placeholder at best and a means of Scott not committing necrophilia at worst. Scott and Jean will eventually happen again much to the chagrin of those who care for The White Queen. From beyond the fourth wall Emma and Scott always struck me as a means of readers to vicariously nail a porn star. As much as Austen and others displayed them boning I'm surprised he had time to workout, train, study or just to be a leader. Honestly when a character advertises that many sexual escapades it becomes whimsical and vapid. Sure if we saw them ever once in a blue, cool. But...no. Scott wearing her legs like a necklace, every time I turn around. I mean how can I take him seriously as a leader of a near extinct subspecies of human when he owns tear away spandex for efficiency with our good ole white clad femdom?

Some might be offended but Emma is certainly (tragic) villianess, not a heroine. She was a whimsical addition to the cast of Generation X by Scott Lobdell and that was certainly not his first offense again the universe of "X". Sometimes I think it flew under the radar based solely on the fact that Sabretooth was "rehabilitating" at the time, which lead to the damaging of Psylocke's character...sorry, digressing on Lobdell. The only "X" writer I actually like as much as Morrison and Austen...lol. More like an unholy trinity...

So on to love. Scott loved Maddie too and how did that turn out? Oh yeah, she became a demon queen and tried to murder their child AFTER she gave Christopher over to Sinister to experiment on. What about Lee Forester? She ended up with Maggie-neeto, that was terrible. Hell all his relationships except Jean were terrible (and I mean terrible) failures.

#68 Posted by acer51 (2236 posts) - - Show Bio

@chasereis: Yeah, I mean even today Cyclops yearns for the return of Jean, and maybe he does care about Emma on some level, but clearly not, because I don't think that Cyclops would have ever betrayed Jean Grey like he did in AvX even under the influence of the Phoenix.

#69 Edited by God_Spawn (37877 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: Despite the reason that Cyclops betrayed Emma is BECAUSE of what Jean went through. It was pretty clear what Gillen intended to mean during their meeting in UXM 19.

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#70 Posted by God_Spawn (37877 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: And hey, since Cyclops would never betray Jean, let's not forget who cheated on who with whom.

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#71 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: With much respect, but if you refer to Morrison's forced catharsis in New X-Men based on that vapid "the twelve" storyline and his narrow perception of what he wanted to put Scott through to kill Jean to one up Claremont it is about office politics and not about the story. Hell who really knows what contiuity that they are supposedly following anyway. The 2000's have not been kind to marvel at all, they tried everything to keep sales up but now they have a giant messy elephant in the room they are either too lazy or too scared to remove or reboot out of existence. Most every writer since Morrison wrote her as a rebound girl anyway. Inside the fourth wall, were I Emma I would not have expected much as I damaged a good relationship selfishly and to be honest when a relationship begins like that it is almost predestined to failure. I've known four couples (in real life) where this has occurred three ended VERY badly. (lets leave it at that)

@acer51: And whom was it that made Scott stop again? It was Emma right...oh wait. Nope that wasn't it. Fire covered girl what was her name again...?

#72 Posted by acer51 (2236 posts) - - Show Bio
#73 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio
#74 Edited by acer51 (2236 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: ...

Ok I stand corrected, but what point are you trying to make? this supports Jean over Emma, I've been arguing against Emma Frost this entire time.

#75 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: was trying agree with your assessment of Emma...clearly

#76 Edited by acer51 (2236 posts) - - Show Bio
#77 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: Quite alright. We on the same side clearly, as I have never been found of the damned white queen. Or the hellfire club, the phoenix among other things in that relation. The division of Jean vs Emma here is enough to make one feel uneasy so i understood what you were saying. Are you a tenured or a new reader?

#78 Edited by The_Goddess_of_Chaos (312 posts) - - Show Bio

@mercy_ said:

Yes

how do you explain this then?

lol why does emma have her hands on his pants and her own.... 0,0 lol

#79 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio
#80 Edited by Mercy_ (92695 posts) - - Show Bio

@mercy_ said:

Yes

how do you explain this then?

Did you read the comic this is from? :)

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#81 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio

@mercy_ said:

@theacidskull said:

@mercy_ said:

Yes

how do you explain this then?

Did you read the comic this is from? :)

Nah :P, i'm not an X fan other than x-23 and wolverine lol, i just thought this pic was funny :P

#82 Posted by Mercy_ (92695 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull: That's what I figured, considering the context :P

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#83 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio

@mercy_ said:

@theacidskull: That's what I figured, considering the context :P

hehe, yeah :P, i was just having fun XD , i was hoping GS would see it ! he has been Trolling me with some scans and i wanted payback :D!

#84 Edited by God_Spawn (37877 posts) - - Show Bio
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#85 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull: I saw it fine. I just didn't bite.

I know, i have to say i'm disappointed :P

also the new notification thing sucks :(

#86 Posted by The_Goddess_of_Chaos (312 posts) - - Show Bio

She's just in a snit because scott pulled an emma frost white queen on her and took her part of the phoenix force.

lol

#87 Posted by The_Goddess_of_Chaos (312 posts) - - Show Bio

@lykopis said:

@acer51:

There can be no confusion on this. Emma and Scott have been one of the most strongest relationships in the Marvel Universe for years now. Special attention has been placed on this, many, many times over by a multitude of writers. Despite what might be hinted at for the future, their past can't be called into question -- where is your proof that can support your belief otherwise? And don't use their very active sex life as proof that is all they have -- it is actually one of the aspects of their relationship that makes it so strong.

you know its odd how when scott starts dating emma he becomes more of a sex fiend

#88 Posted by Flopsop200 (170 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: See him taking her Phoenix Powers is constantly taken out of context in my opinion. In the AvX tie in, Uncanny X-men 18, while the Avengers and X-men were attacking them on the physical plane, Emma and Scott were talking telepathically. During this conversation Emma admits to feeding him the "thought" of human blood, having a mental affair with Namor while he destroyed Wakanda and continually told Scott they should unleash there full power and destroy the "ingrates" to which Scott attested. The final time she does this Scott says "we can't go on like this" and " I'll take it from here". Then he attacks her in the physical plane robbing her of her portion of the Phoenix Force. I think he did this to save everyone and ultimately thought he would be more responsible with it. Clearly he was wrong and it was too much for him to handle. I don't think he betrayed her, I believe he prevented the woman he loved from committing an atrocity. He would have done the same thing for Jean. I just wish this exchange was shown in the actual AvX issue rather than the tie in. It's paramount in understanding why he did it. Anyone who just read the main series gets the impression that he just choked her out for the heck of it.

#89 Edited by Osian2 (455 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: See him taking her Phoenix Powers is constantly taken out of context in my opinion. In the AvX tie in, Uncanny X-men 18, while the Avengers and X-men were attacking them on the physical plane, Emma and Scott were talking telepathically. During this conversation Emma admits to feeding him the "thought" of human blood, having a mental affair with Namor while he destroyed Wakanda and continually told Scott they should unleash there full power and destroy the "ingrates" to which Scott attested. The final time she does this Scott says "we can't go on like this" and " I'll take it from here". Then he attacks her in the physical plane robbing her of her portion of the Phoenix Force. I think he did this to save everyone and ultimately thought he would be more responsible with it. Clearly he was wrong and it was too much for him to handle. I don't think he betrayed her, I believe he prevented the woman he loved from committing an atrocity. He would have done the same thing for Jean. I just wish this exchange was shown in the actual AvX issue rather than the tie in. It's paramount in understanding why he did it. Anyone who just read the main series gets the impression that he just choked her out for the heck of it.

Yeah it really should have been shown in AVX itself but then so much was missed out in general.

#90 Posted by Avenger85 (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: ...

That is one of the better Scott-Jean moments out there...

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#91 Posted by phisigmatau (515 posts) - - Show Bio

ya that scene is touching...

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