Cyclops' new ability query (This Will contain SPOILERS babeh)

#1 Posted by Baberaham_Lincoln (936 posts) - - Show Bio

HI!!! my first topic on Comicvine, pretty sweet ^_^. On point though.

After reading uncanny X-men #1, What exactly is Cyclops' new power?? I saw it... but didn't quiet understand. With his new powers though... is he able to butt rape heroes like Captain America now X/

Sorry if this is retarded.... i'm semi-retarded

#2 Posted by God_Spawn (37901 posts) - - Show Bio

He doesn't have a new power. He just has very little control over his blasts now since the output seems much greater than before.

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#3 Posted by One_Eye (783 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: @Baberaham_Lincoln: And he seems to tire out more so now from excessive use.

#4 Posted by Kain (197 posts) - - Show Bio

Not a new power, just a power boost to his optic blast.

#5 Edited by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

How did he get an upgrade? Secondary mutation?

#6 Posted by Kain (197 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

How did he get an upgrade? Secondary mutation?

Nope. Side effect from his possession of the Phoenix force.

#7 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kain said:

@Gambit1024 said:

How did he get an upgrade? Secondary mutation?

Nope. Side effect from his possession of the Phoenix force.

Ah. That makes sense, I guess... Did the rest of the 5 get power-ups? Because Namor's the same in New Avengers.

#8 Posted by Doombert (518 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably a result of containing the whole Phoenix vs Namor and the others that only had a fraction of its power.

#9 Posted by John Valentine (16310 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

@Kain said:

@Gambit1024 said:

How did he get an upgrade? Secondary mutation?

Nope. Side effect from his possession of the Phoenix force.

Ah. That makes sense, I guess... Did the rest of the 5 get power-ups? Because Namor's the same in New Avengers.

What's the change to Namor's powers?

#10 Posted by cameron83 (7345 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

@Kain said:

@Gambit1024 said:

How did he get an upgrade? Secondary mutation?

Nope. Side effect from his possession of the Phoenix force.

Ah. That makes sense, I guess... Did the rest of the 5 get power-ups? Because Namor's the same in New Avengers.

No.I think Magneto has incredibly limited control of his magnetic powers now.And Emma lost her telepathy.Cyclops enhancement was already stated I guess,and Magik is same old same old

#11 Posted by God_Spawn (37901 posts) - - Show Bio

@One_Eye said:

@god_spawn: @Baberaham_Lincoln: And he seems to tire out more so now from excessive use.

Well, he has always been like that. He has just managed to build up his stamina and control the output better over the years to where he didn't get tired as easily. I mean when he used to push himself, he would fall over almost dead to right before AvX where he can obliterate the entire area and not it bug him so much. He's kind of like in a mix of those states. He can't control the output again as it seems in overdrive.

@Gambit1024:

Ah. That makes sense, I guess... Did the rest of the 5 get power-ups? Because Namor's the same in New Avengers.

They really aren't power ups, they are more or less broken in some fashion with varying results. Emma has no telepathy but still has her diamond form. Cyclops's output seems higher but he is good for like 1 shot right now but just levels the area. Magik was given the only upgrade without a backlash as she can manipulate her limbo energy in new ways. What they are have yet to be specified. Colossus is sort of jigsawed (he is stuck between human and metal form) and is forced to wear this special armor that allows him to control his powers. And Magneto has limited magnetic control due to being hit by the force or something.

@John Valentine:

Namor has no change that we know of. Hickman either hasn't brought it to attention or nothing is wrong. He's where he was prior to being possessed as far as we know.

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#12 Posted by John Valentine (16310 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto has been significantly weakened, Emma's lost her TP, Cyclops has greater output but limited control and he seems to fatigue more easily, Colossus has lost control of his transitioning into his organic metal state and Magik appears to be a lot stronger than before.

I'm not sure about Namor.

#13 Posted by slimlim (264 posts) - - Show Bio

I believe Cyclops has had a slight alteration to his powers along with a power boost. Uncanny X-Men seems to suggest that his blast is omni-directional now. Or at least can be. Whether he blasts and energy sphere around him or his blasts can twirl around him hasn't been made absolutely clear. From the pages of All New X-Men, his blasts do seem to twirl around a bit. But then again, that was at the start of his powers showing "problems". That coupled with artistic licence of both Bachalo and Immonen, its hard to say what exactly has changed about his Optic Blast other then he seems to have lost some control overit, and it seems to have received a power upgrade as well as being able to destroy more than what is in a straight line in front of him.

As for the rest of the P5 and Magneto, it seems all of them have had alterations besides Namor. but that remains to be seen.

#14 Posted by Baberaham_Lincoln (936 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: This is super awesome feedback, thanks for clearing things up :]. I'm happy Cyclops got an upgrade tbh.

I wanna know though from everyone else, number one, you think cyclops can be a big time player in the marvel verse now?? and number two, is this 'change' or 'upgrade' for the better or for the worse?? (i know it's only been an issue in for Uncanny X-Men #1, but i'm talking about potential... long term thinking =D)

Thanks all.

#15 Posted by chocobojam (288 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyclops doesn't really get new power nor his power is enhance in any way.

its just that he lost his ability to fully control his powers which make it seems to look like too powerful.

#16 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@slimlim said:

Uncanny X-Men seems to suggest that his blast is omni-directional now.

I hope not, everyone seems to forget that Scott can ricochet his beams off of just about any surface with the skill of a trigonometry master. However the output seems more like his brother Alex's cosmic plasma blasts. I don't know if that is artistic license or intent.

#17 Posted by CTG (229 posts) - - Show Bio

@slimlim said:

I believe Cyclops has had a slight alteration to his powers along with a power boost. Uncanny X-Men seems to suggest that his blast is omni-directional now. Or at least can be. Whether he blasts and energy sphere around him or his blasts can twirl around him hasn't been made absolutely clear. From the pages of All New X-Men, his blasts do seem to twirl around a bit. But then again, that was at the start of his powers showing "problems". That coupled with artistic licence of both Bachalo and Immonen, its hard to say what exactly has changed about his Optic Blast other then he seems to have lost some control overit, and it seems to have received a power upgrade as well as being able to destroy more than what is in a straight line in front of him.

As for the rest of the P5 and Magneto, it seems all of them have had alterations besides Namor. but that remains to be seen.

Thank you!

I'm reading this thread like, "Did no one else see the blast was omni-directional? Really?"

#18 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@CTG: Well actually I did some research and found a few example of wide beam impacts. He has fired many wide pattern cone (some were almost cylindrical) shaped blasts in earlier books notably in 80's. There may be some artistic license in there as well. I think I'll wait till someone in the book actually says that...or see a few artists replicate it.

#19 Posted by The Finality (133 posts) - - Show Bio

It's probably going to be something similar to Cyclops powers in the Ultimate universe. Or maybe the Phoenix possession allowed him to reach his full potential, as he holds back to avoid the full destructive force of his powers. Maybe he'll gain control of it within time.

#20 Posted by Kain (197 posts) - - Show Bio

@chocobojam said:

Cyclops doesn't really get new power nor his power is enhance in any way.

its just that he lost his ability to fully control his powers which make it seems to look like too powerful.

No, he's more powerful. His blasts had become so powerful that they were blasting his visor from his face. His control is limited to his visor, the fact that his visor can't even stay on due to the power of his blasts shows he's got a power increase. The reason he has lost control now is because they're more powerful.

#21 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kain: Alternatively it could be that ruby quartz has been rendered less effective with no change in power levels, but there is very little evidence other than artistic license at this point...

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