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tbh there is a lot about cyclops i dont like such as IMO boring personality and very 1 dimensional power.
but one thing i always liked about cyclops, is that whenever xmen get ambushed or whatever, if cyclops is around you know that 9/10 cyclops will immediately hit back with a powerful and accurate ranged attack. as member of team that is just always useful,
as a feat i guess he destroyed wolverine hand in AOA so at the very least his optic blast is powerful enough to break adamantium, so very very powerful indeed
When was the last time Cyclops was shown drunk? Outside of a cartoon?
The facts speak for themselves Cyclops = worthless drunk!
The facts speak for themselves Cyclops = worthless drunk!
When has Cyclops EVER been shown as a drunk? Seriously? I understand that you may not like the character but please present legitimate facts before just trolling.
@TheCrowbar said:@DrGannon said:When was the last time Cyclops was shown drunk? Outside of a cartoon?
The facts speak for themselves Cyclops = worthless drunk!
@Obtrusive: I agree that he's not the end all be all kind of character. But the character as he stand during the Utopia move and in schism is very intriguing and multilayered.
Wasn't he drunk at the Hellfire Club just after his squabble with darling Jean? Fantomex and Wolverine dragged him off to infiltrate the World and such? (I think)
And by the way - Cyclops is a GOOD man, dammit! :)
Very true but thankfully he isn't a full-time drunkard as some of the earlier post suggest.
Personally, I believed that Cykes goes through a whirlwind of events. Despite the loss of TWO wives, a son, and now his original crew of friends and allies, he continues to persevere! But hey, haters gonna hate.
Pretty sure beating the x-men with broken ribs is a credible feat. He normally owns Logan, which is also a credible feat since the guy fights people like thing, colossus, and hulk. He's a way better leader than Charles, Storm, Magneto, and what wolverine is trying to be. Even with one power he's used it to it's peak and doesn't rely on it all the time. The guy knows Judo and Aikman, have a vast knowlegde of trigonometry, has studied the stats of all the other x-men and other people in the marvel universe. Scott doesn't even have to be out in the field since he can effectively set up a plan for a team to use and have them hop to it while multitasking with say serveral other missions, the fact that when he does go out in the field it just provides assurance of the completing of the mission and the welfare of the troops. Cyclops haters be learners today.^3^
Whats with the hate for Cyclops?? He's the mutant version of Cap. Why is it ok for Cap to be militant and whiny about Bucky sometimes while overseeing his people & doing what it takes to protect them but not Cyclops?
@homeslice: Yeah it's sad the best characters are usually never given a big roles in media. The big guns will always sell like wolverine, hulk, Spiderman, now ironman, and even deadpool(I would say captain america, but he's not as big anymore just to people who originally liked him.). For Dc it's basically Batman and superman.(used to be flash, gl, ww, and aquaman with them, but times changed.) Marvel only makes movies/shows of their most grossing chars and Dc's only really good movies and shows are from batman old and new or like justice league featuring their top dogs supes and bats.@god_spawn: I dare you to try.
@GRider: I find Cap to be a bit of a boring character. I'll agree with the other poster, I don't particularly fondle over characters with a high morals just because they usually feel that they are the higher power and that there way is the right way. Cyclops is no exception, I've never been attracted to Cyclops character for a lot of reason, which I won't get into, but he's a pretty one-dimensional character power wise, far as I'm concerned.
@Aero_gt: I agree completely- there are tonnes of great characters that deserve to have their own animated and live-action series/movies and quality videogames. I wish cap would get a solo animated series and that cyke would get some more recognition in the xmen movies/series. I also think its about time flash and other heroes got an animated movie for the very least. I was glad that ww managed to get one. I love supe, bats, spidey and the xmen etc but they aren't the only characters... I feel lucky that supe, spidey and bats are in my top 5. too bad characters like cap, cyke and dd and in dc-the rest of the league- wont get as much recognition.
@GRider: haha indeed.
@homeslice: I'm not a mega fan of Bats and supers, but I love to keep tabs on them and grew up with them. Same for Cap and Spiderman and to some extent the avengers. To me the animated movies do some characters a lot of justice. Dc has it's show cases and the wonder woman movie was pretty tight. The spectre, Captian Marvel, Johan hex, and Green Arrow showcases were good. Young justice surprises me everytime with their show, Cameos from the four gls of earth, Dr.Fate, queen bee, joker, lex luthor, ra'as al ghul, Billy Batson, the brian, 4 ape villians i think unless gorilla Grodd wasn't there yet, the ice villians and so on, needless to say it's my fave dc show since justice league . Now marvel on the other hand should do more animated movies and shows that don't suck . Wolverine and the x-men was interesting ofcourse it's mainly about old edward scissorhands, but I liked the diffent type of cyclops, Jean grey was only in there for the beginning and end (+ for me), emma frost finally got some decent screentime, polaris was there, and It had a diffent direction than just the usual arcs.
@Aero_gt: Alrighty then, so first off I'll just clear out the most common fact that yeah he is a great leader and has saved the mutant from extinction and if anyone has picked up an x-men comic over the course of the last few years you would understand that so I won't post any scans of that.
Even with one power he's used it to it's peak and doesn't rely on it all the time. The guy knows Judo and Aikman
I have the scans all separate but I don't want to click on all them so this will suffice.
have a vast knowlegde of trigonometry,
sinks a pool table in one shot.
has studied the stats of all the other x-men and other people in the marvel universe
The universe bit is pushing it, but he does know his team inside and out.
Scott doesn't even have to be out in the field since he can effectively set up a plan for a team to use and have them hop to it while multitasking with say serveral other missions,
I do have scans that Scott is always analyzing and he does come up with plans on the fly like before he dealt with his own team transitioning from person to person. Scott has a lot of planning feats.
I do have more scans of his trigonometric ability, fighting ability, accuracy, destructive powers. The whole deal.
@BlackArmor: Thanks and I totally agree, aside from tossing around the X-men which I understand cause of his prediction ability when taking on his team is stellar, he's taken on thugs and disarmed a gunman in uncanny before the relaunch in fear itself which is basic street level 101. If he makes such a bold statement as to being the premiere super hero team he wants to be, I'd like some more h2h abilities from him at least on Moon Knight's level. The sword is cool but a bit unnecessary IMO though I wouldn't mind him carrying one with him but he doesn't need it.
@Aero_gt: Woot woot, as long as Andy doesn't find out and beats me with a stick we should be ok.
@BlackArmor: And that's what I agree with, I mean the most he has done was tussled with Wolverine, but considering Wolverine held back in Schism or goes in like a dumba$$ on Scott, it doesn't say much in comparison to Wolverine. I'd like to see Scott train with someone like Cap. T'Challa or Daredevil or something. He does need more h2h feats since he just pulls one out every now and then.
@Aero_gt: yeahh DCs animated movies are awesome. They really got the characters and I hope marvel could do the same. I really liked ultimate avengers but that was basically since it was the only animated appearance of cap in recent times. Young justice is great and i really appreciate all the cameos. Ultra humanite and malla I think were the ape characters I'm not sure if I'm forgetting any. The latest marvel series I really liked was spectacular spiderman tho it got cancelled. i never caught up on wolverine and the xmen since cyke was demoted lol but i I think i'll give it a try.
@god_spawn: training from those characters would really be great since I agree that he needs more hth feats. Cyke is rarely seen without the xmen tho and he doesn't have his own book so it might probably be a while before anything like this happens unfortunately.
@homeslice: Yeah Wolverine and the X-men wasn't really the place for Cycke fans Cyke had a random and stupid demotion and once again was placed in second stringer position. there is one really good episode where cyke goes rouge to take out sinister but they even ruined that at the end
@BlackArmor:That's why i never bothered to watch it- I thought that I should heed the blatant demotion as a sign of things to come. I heard that a first class sequel is being written and i hope they find some way to include him and give him justice. btw do you remember the name of the episode u described where cyke goes rogue?
I wouldn't be suprised if he had a bit part in 2nd class but i doubt hollywood will give him justice you have to read the comics to see cyke for the great charecter he is and not enough people in show biz read comics, ironically they all want to make comic movies but apparently sitting down with a copy of uncanny X-men is beneath them. if cyke doesn't have to be sacrificed to make wolverine look good though he has a much larger chance of shining in whatever role he has
looked it up it was "eXcessive Force"
@homeslice: A little birdie also told me that x men the anime is out, but I have to witness this myself. As for cykes being a bigger part in the movies, he needs a known actor to play him and some screen time. It seems like in every movie he gets lamer, but not only him, but anyone that's not the main protagonist or a antagonist. Toad , Mystique, Mags, Pyro, Striker and new Sabretooth got pretty decent villian roles, heck even evil Jean grey got way more attention when she went bad. Cyce did get the worse end though out of the good guys, he gets beaten up in the first two, "dies" in the third, is a wimpy kid in the x-origins, and no where in first class if you don't count that minuscule cameo. Iceman had a good run, Storm was under powered and just eye candy to the viewers, Beast only got to be in the 3rd, nightcrawler only got to be in the second, rogue was insignificant, the professor got a few hits and misses, and colossus and Kitty didn't get enough screen time. Oh and i heard that sebastian shaw and emma frost got some justice in 1st class.
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