Who and what has affected Colossus?

#1 Posted by Bart Simpson (536 posts) - - Show Bio

Checking out Wiki and Marveldatabase, it seems as if little things outside of brute force and magnetism can affect this guy. So this thread is focused on who or what has affected Colossus. Just so people know, I don't need to know that a very powerful character like Galactus has affected him. That should be a given. 
 
Instead I recall the creator stating that Pyro has successfully heated up his metal skin before and I'm also aware that Omega Red's spores have affected him before. These are the type of things I want to know. So who or what else has affected him in the past?

#2 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
Riptide was able to pincushion Colossus with shuriken during the Mutant Massacre.
#3 Posted by "Colossus" (4111 posts) - - Show Bio
@Bart Simpson said:
" Checking out Wiki and Marveldatabase, it seems as if little things outside of brute force and magnetism can affect this guy. So this thread is focused on who or what has affected Colossus. Just so people know, I don't need to know that a very powerful character like Galactus has affected him. That should be a given.   Instead I recall the creator stating that Pyro has successfully heated up his metal skin before and I'm also aware that Omega Red's spores have affected him before. These are the type of things I want to know. So who or what else has affected him in the past? "
Hulk and riptide.
the only two who ever injured him.
#4 Posted by castleking (24119 posts) - - Show Bio
Ord has bn able to hurt colossus via holds and even pressure point attacks while in metal form.
#5 Posted by Walker696 (984 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know if she has, but can't Kitty Pryde affect him to some extent?????
Also if I recall hasn't Rouge taken his powers as well (I'm not sure I'm asking)
I would also thing that Vibranium would hurt him but once again I'm not really all that sure

#6 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio

i consider myself, and am by others a foremost on Colossus, so ill try and give you the rundown.
 
616 version
shown immunity
 
electricity/lightning
freezing (naturally!)
heat extremes (theres a limit though but its very high, ill get to this)
kinetics/pressure/force (again, theres  limit but its high)
other metals (at best, he can be scored scratched by adamantium, its a wash since when Colossus reverts
between forms nicks, cuts and scratches are repaired)
re-entry to a planets atmosphere 

magic. Colossus has shown some resitance to magic, in blast form a few times and spells.
this is largly due to enchantments his sister placed on him.

enough force can knock Colossus, and i often have seen those scans used as "effected", but
in almost every case the next page shows Colossus getting up
 
little to no resistance
magnetics
Legacy virus
telepathy (small degree of resitance.  the usual from having Charles and Jean poking you all the time)
certain specialized affects listed here 

* note: Colossus has undergone three evolutions. 
-a large portion of the time we've known him were referred to as his teen years. during this time he wasnt a master 
of his power yet. he had less strength, and could take some internal injury, usually to his bones if the outside
damage was great enough (teen)
* at some point here Colossus was said to have been upgraded by Magneto, but this was forgotten about quickly
by writers. it suppposedly increased his overall stats.
- due to long training with the X-Men and as an adventurer/superhero he evolved, and gained a mastery
of his powers. he was now much stronger, faster, agile, and notably able to assume a 100% metal form
straight through to his bones, much in the way Iceman uses his powers. (adult)
- Colossus of course died due to the Legacy Virus. he was brought back to life on Breakworld,
and his stats were said to be changed, but the how hasnt really been shown as this seems to
have been forgotten about (fine by me really, he shouldnt be made overwhelming)
 (reborn)
 
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affected by but didnt really do anything
Wolverines claws scored him, not enough to due any harm nor put him down ( the Ultimates
version shows to not share this trait). (teen)
 
a Doombot remote controlled by Doom rendered Colossus unconscious using a  neural disruptor
to scramble his specific motor neurons made just for him (pretty damn crafty Doom!).
there were no lasting affects. Colossus's was asleep for a few minutes. (teen)
 
Rogues touch affects Colossus. shes never used it cause lasting harm in 616, but more than
likely could as its shown to be possible for her to do so. (any)
 
pressure point attacks as listed by someone above, but no lasting damage (any)

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affected highly by but didnt do enough 

 Wreckers crowbar/ Asgardian enhancement= Colossus was still able to lift a ship weighing over 1,000 tons
while struggling with the injury. he was later healed by Zsaji  " in Secret Wars " in Colossus defense
he was fighting the rest of the Wrecking Crew and Dr.Octopus at the same time and Wrecker hit him
in the ribs from behind while his arms were lifted. (teen)
 
Worldbreaker Hulk was able to apply sufficient force to bend Colossus. Colossus healed from this.
i want to note that he did better than Thing here, and in fact Hulk complimeted him on his performance.
(current)
 
Vision affected Colossus by phasing and scrambling him. it took alot of effort on Visions part,
and resulted in a backlash KO'ing both characters. (teen)
 
Arkons arrows caused Colossus pain, no damage. Colossus was pretty angry. 
 
Pete Wisdoms daggers hurt Colossus. Petes daggers are hotter than the surface of the sun.
this was one of my favorite moments for Colossus because we learned alot from it. Wisdoms
daggers penetrated/melted into Colossus, and we saw his blood in metal form, which was
liquid metal as well. the affect was Colossus was extremely pissed and beat Wisdom into a coma.
he healed this by switching forms (adult)

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affected by in a bad way 
 
Riptide's super velocity stars .
Magneto healed him but the process left him paralyzed temporarily.  
after he was fixed and improved, Colossus faced Riptide again
and was now immune to his stars.
Colossus ended up killing Riptide in the end .(teen)
 
Colossus took a blast from Doom after he had gained the powers of the Beyonder.
he was destroyed utterly. why this is notable (and debated) is when the heroes where
brought back, Colossus was noted as having had the greatest durability of them all,
having taken the least amount of physical damage. (teen)
 
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hope this helps to answer your question.

#7 Posted by The Phoenix Child (561 posts) - - Show Bio

Colossus greatest weakness for me is his big heart... once it brokens...he gets lost in his path. 

#8 Posted by Illyana Rasputin (2771 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Phoenix Child said:
"Colossus greatest weakness for me is his big heart... once it brokens...he gets lost in his path.  "

Agreed.
#9 Posted by Illyana Rasputin (2771 posts) - - Show Bio
@Bart Simpson:

An alternate reality Colossus had his heart torn out by the demon, S'ym, in Uncanny X-Men . And in Exiles, an alternate reality Iron Fist punched a hole through Piotr's bio-organic armor, and killed him.
#10 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@Illyana Rasputin: 
in 616, Colossus was unharmed by a chi attack from Iron Fist. in 616. Colossus has had 3 fights with Sym.
at best Colossus knocked Sym out. alternate reality versions of characters are generally weaker than their 
616 counterparts. the AoA version of Colossus for example was killed by a charged projectile throw to
the back by AoA Gambit.
#11 Posted by Illyana Rasputin (2771 posts) - - Show Bio
@CATMANEXE said:
" @Illyana Rasputin:  in 616, Colossus was unharmed by a chi attack from Iron Fist. in 616. Colossus has had 3 fights with Sym. at best Colossus knocked Sym out. alternate reality versions of characters are generally weaker than their  616 counterparts. the AoA version of Colossus for example was killed by a charged projectile throw to the back by AoA Gambit. "
Yes, I have noticed that, as well. Thank you for the information!
#12 Posted by Bart Simpson (536 posts) - - Show Bio

Feel free to mention stuff from alternate universes too. Just curious on this guy's limits.

#13 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

 Rogues touch affects Colossus. shes never used it cause lasting harm in 616, but more than 
likely could as its shown to be possible for her to do so. (any)     

Colossus has been shown to be immune to Rogue's touch while armored (616).
#14 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@Korg: debatable. in that one instant he was immune in any other he wasnt. i take it as a goof personally.
#15 Edited by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
@CATMANEXE said:

" @Korg: debatable."

Nope, it is clearly shown on panel.
#16 Posted by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@Korg: ?? 
 
dont be goofy. its clearly shown on panel that she did as well.
debating it means denial that the X-Mens first encounter with Nimrod ever happened, a story which has been re-shown
to date ( the kiss was not). id also be denying any time Rogue has absorbed anyones powers of a higher caliber, like Thor , Ares 
and Juggernaut for example, or a more difficult material like those made of fire or Ms.Marvels Kree anatomy. or in more current issues than that like in X-Treme where she temporarily was given memory recall, and one of the powers that came up was Colossus's steel form. sorry, multiple incidents establish continuity, that was a one time writer goof. or, even if, since shes shown with the powers later,
then consider it retconned. (regardless of what the oh so reliable wikipedia says about it).
#17 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
@CATMANEXE said:
" @Korg: ??"
I'm talking about a specific incident in which it is clearly shown, and stated, that Colossus is immune to Rogue's powers while in armored form. You acknowledge that this happened. There is therefor nothing to debate.
#18 Edited by CATMANEXE (17052 posts) - - Show Bio
@Korg: right. once, against the one before and the recall of his powers afterwords. there isnt anything to debate. it was one poorly written moment. i acknowledged that it didnt happen because the writer didnt research and therefore made a continuity error, one that was corrected afterwords.
 
Rogue absorbed Colossus's powers in  Uncanny X-Men #179, 194, X-Men & Alpha Flight (1st series) #1, Heroes for Hope #1, Uncanny X-Men #208, 247, and X-Men (2nd series) #80, 102, 106, 107. she later recalled them when Sage gave her memory recall in X-Treme.
 
the incident your referring to happened in  X-Men (2nd series) # 100. take note that it was retconned out because the writer was made
aware of his mistake. and again she has been able to recall his power, as well these incidents where she drained his power have been 
reshown again and again, the most recent time being in X-Men Legacy #221.
 
it was a clear case of WIS.
#19 Posted by steve2275 (4 posts) - - Show Bio

acid/corrosives and telekinesis
are prolly his biggest physical weaknesses

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