In Civil War what side do you support?

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Posted by flazam (2496 posts) 1 year, 4 months ago

Poll: In Civil War what side do you support? (67 votes)

Anti Registration 66%
Pro Registration 22%
Neutral 12%

Imagine your a superhero and its said you must sign a superhero registration act what sisde would you be on

#1 Posted by flazam (2496 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro Reg!!!

#2 Posted by Lvenger (20261 posts) - - Show Bio

@flazam: Why if you don't mind my asking? Personally, although I'd have anti reg sympathies, I would remain neutral in the conflict.

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#3 Posted by flazam (2496 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@flazam: Why if you don't mind my asking? Personally, although I'd have anti reg sympathies, I would remain neutral in the conflict.

With The governmental funding superheros could be trained and upgraded for a new age of heroes!!!!! I see your point though

#4 Posted by Lvenger (20261 posts) - - Show Bio

@flazam said:

@lvenger said:

@flazam: Why if you don't mind my asking? Personally, although I'd have anti reg sympathies, I would remain neutral in the conflict.

With The governmental funding superheros could be trained and upgraded for a new age of heroes!!!!! I see your point though

There's a loss of personal security and liberties though with the Pro Reg side. Too much control over superheroes and not enough independence for heroes to act.

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#5 Posted by flazam (2496 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@flazam said:

@lvenger said:

@flazam: Why if you don't mind my asking? Personally, although I'd have anti reg sympathies, I would remain neutral in the conflict.

With The governmental funding superheros could be trained and upgraded for a new age of heroes!!!!! I see your point though

There's a loss of personal security and liberties though with the Pro Reg side. Too much control over superheroes and not enough independence for heroes to act.

Why do superheros need independence when they can be guided

#6 Posted by Pwok21 (2441 posts) - - Show Bio

As a civilian Pro-Reg.

If I were a hero, Anti-Reg.

#7 Posted by Lvenger (20261 posts) - - Show Bio

@flazam said:

@lvenger said:

@flazam said:

@lvenger said:

@flazam: Why if you don't mind my asking? Personally, although I'd have anti reg sympathies, I would remain neutral in the conflict.

With The governmental funding superheros could be trained and upgraded for a new age of heroes!!!!! I see your point though

There's a loss of personal security and liberties though with the Pro Reg side. Too much control over superheroes and not enough independence for heroes to act.

Why do superheros need independence when they can be guided

Because otherwise they become puppets of the government. Case in point Dr Manhattan in Watchmen or Superman in The Dark Knight Returns. Always doing what the government wanted rather than what was needed to help people.

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#8 Posted by flazam (2496 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@flazam said:

@lvenger said:

@flazam said:

@lvenger said:

@flazam: Why if you don't mind my asking? Personally, although I'd have anti reg sympathies, I would remain neutral in the conflict.

With The governmental funding superheros could be trained and upgraded for a new age of heroes!!!!! I see your point though

There's a loss of personal security and liberties though with the Pro Reg side. Too much control over superheroes and not enough independence for heroes to act.

Why do superheros need independence when they can be guided

Because otherwise they become puppets of the government. Case in point Dr Manhattan in Watchmen or Superman in The Dark Knight Returns. Always doing what the government wanted rather than what was needed to help people.

You have won me over Im anti reg now

#9 Posted by Lvenger (20261 posts) - - Show Bio

@flazam said:

@lvenger said:

@flazam said:

@lvenger said:

@flazam said:

@lvenger said:

@flazam: Why if you don't mind my asking? Personally, although I'd have anti reg sympathies, I would remain neutral in the conflict.

With The governmental funding superheros could be trained and upgraded for a new age of heroes!!!!! I see your point though

There's a loss of personal security and liberties though with the Pro Reg side. Too much control over superheroes and not enough independence for heroes to act.

Why do superheros need independence when they can be guided

Because otherwise they become puppets of the government. Case in point Dr Manhattan in Watchmen or Superman in The Dark Knight Returns. Always doing what the government wanted rather than what was needed to help people.

You have won me over Im anti reg now

You know there might be compelling arguments for the Pro Reg side too.

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#10 Posted by SC (13149 posts) - - Show Bio

I support the side that has the better and more practical reasons, means, methods and has better systems in place to deal with and cope with possible negative consequences. So as far as Marvel's Civil War, neither side! Imma do a Bill and go live with the Asgardians up in that floating fortress... I am sure nothing bad will happen up there...

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#11 Edited by Dark_Vengeance_ (14747 posts) - - Show Bio

Interesting, I was expecting for the anti-registration to be the lead.

#12 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

Ugh I do not want to get into this debate again.

But as I recall, there was one alternate outcome of Civil War where Steve worked alongside Tony to ensure that even though superheroes were regulated and registered, their personal liberties and private lives were still kept intact. For me, that's the ideal use of Registration, making superheroes into public deputies recognized by law enforcement and appointed by the people, but avoiding all of the bureaucratic nonsense by just making them heroes, not soldiers or assets. If there was someone who could be the middleman between the hero community and the government like Captain America - who has pull with heroes, the gov, and the people - things might've turned out better.

But if I was a superhero, I'd probably be like Falcon. Signup Pro-Reg, but just give me an area to patrol and leave me out of the rest of your nonsense.

#13 Posted by Lvenger (20261 posts) - - Show Bio

@veshark said:

Ugh I do not want to get into this debate again.

But as I recall, there was one alternate outcome of Civil War where Steve worked alongside Tony to ensure that even though superheroes were regulated and registered, their personal liberties and private lives were still kept intact. For me, that's the ideal use of Registration, making superheroes into public deputies recognized by law enforcement and appointed by the people, but avoiding all of the bureaucratic nonsense by just making them heroes, not soldiers or assets. If there was someone who could be the middleman between the hero community and the government like Captain America - who has pull with heroes, the gov, and the people - things might've turned out better.

But if I was a superhero, I'd probably be like Falcon. Signup Pro-Reg, but just give me an area to patrol and leave me out of the rest of your nonsense.

Ah yes that would have been a tenable outcome. I believe the DC universe has a similar sort of system

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#14 Posted by starrk_coyote (624 posts) - - Show Bio

i would go with pro-reg. and here is why

say that you are a mutant and you just turned 13 okay so far? and your powers are just starting to get out there, and let say that your power is life force Absorption same as say like rouge from marvel, okay...and you are been 1 on 1 with your girlfriend or boyfriend or what ever, or just walk and holding hands, without any warning you see your best friend drops dead on ya. you would be shocked and scary as hell.

you would like to know how it happen, and how to control it (saying that you know that you have powers).

by the civilian population you are for all intent purposes you are a weapon that is out of control and need to be taken control of.

so ya...pro-reg here.

hope that clears the air here

#15 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger

Indeed. Captain America sort of played the role of middleman during his stint as 'top cop', as I recall.

Wow, I didn't know the DCU had metahuman registration - it's pretty cool that they can cite the Amendment to hide their identity. Was this prior to Civil War? Judging from Kyle's costume and the art style, it looks like it.

#16 Posted by Lvenger (20261 posts) - - Show Bio

@veshark said:

@lvenger

Indeed. Captain America sort of played the role of middleman during his stint as 'top cop', as I recall.

Wow, I didn't know the DCU had metahuman registration - it's pretty cool that they can cite the Amendment to hide their identity. Was this prior to Civil War? Judging from Kyle's costume and the art style, it looks like it.

DC never had a Civil War event to my knowledge.

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#17 Posted by TheCannon (18918 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pretty sure this has been done so many times.

But anyway, I would not go pro. First off, I wouldn't want to be told what to do by the government. I just don't trust them. And I refuse to hunt down friends and allies just because they're doing the right thing.

If I went neutral, I'd feel like I'm not doing anything to help anyone.

So Anti.

#18 Posted by Catsnlynne (1034 posts) - - Show Bio

I voted anti.

#19 Edited by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger

Uh, no, I think you misread my question. I was asking if DC's idea of 'metahuman registration' was done before Marvel put out Civil War.

#20 Posted by Arkhamc1tizen (2145 posts) - - Show Bio

anti id fight to protect my secret identity

#21 Edited by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

Neutral. I wouldnt want to fight against the government or the will of the people because then I would be seen as the bad guy,but I dont want the government to tell who I can or Cant save and how i should use my powers

#22 Edited by flazam (2496 posts) - - Show Bio

anti id fight to protect my secret identity

But I already know your Identity Bruce Wayne!!

#23 Posted by Lvenger (20261 posts) - - Show Bio

@veshark said:

@lvenger

Uh, no, I think you misread my question. I was asking if DC's idea of 'metahuman registration' was done before Marvel put out Civil War.

Woops my bad! Yeah ages ago based on the person who sent me that scan. Even before Kyle became Green Lantern. It might have had something to do with the Legends mini series.

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#24 Posted by Arkhamc1tizen (2145 posts) - - Show Bio

@flazam said:

@arkhamc1tizen said:

anti id fight to protect my secret identity

But I already know your Identity Bruce Wayne!!

shut up robin

#25 Edited by flazam (2496 posts) - - Show Bio

@flazam said:

@arkhamc1tizen said:

anti id fight to protect my secret identity

But I already know your Identity Bruce Wayne!!

shut up robin

Sorry Batman I think were in the wrong universe

#26 Posted by Lvenger (20261 posts) - - Show Bio
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#27 Posted by Arkhamc1tizen (2145 posts) - - Show Bio
#28 Edited by flazam (2496 posts) - - Show Bio
#29 Posted by BlueLantern1995 (2448 posts) - - Show Bio

I will quote Optimus Prime as my answer "Freedom is the right of all sentient creatures." With this answer I back the Anti-Registration because Neutrality is only saying that I am to afraid to fight for what I believe in.

#30 Posted by Mr_Winchester (708 posts) - - Show Bio

@flazam said:

@lvenger said:

@flazam said:

@lvenger said:

@flazam said:

@lvenger said:

@flazam: Why if you don't mind my asking? Personally, although I'd have anti reg sympathies, I would remain neutral in the conflict.

With The governmental funding superheros could be trained and upgraded for a new age of heroes!!!!! I see your point though

There's a loss of personal security and liberties though with the Pro Reg side. Too much control over superheroes and not enough independence for heroes to act.

Why do superheros need independence when they can be guided

Because otherwise they become puppets of the government. Case in point Dr Manhattan in Watchmen or Superman in The Dark Knight Returns. Always doing what the government wanted rather than what was needed to help people.

You have won me over Im anti reg now

Pretty much my reasoning as well.

#31 Posted by BOOSTERwing700 (48 posts) - - Show Bio

ANTI REG!!!!!!

#32 Posted by Fuchsia_Nightingale (10180 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro

#33 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

William T Sherman

F*ck the south

F*ck georgia

#34 Edited by TheManInTheShoe (3878 posts) - - Show Bio

Anti reg, for sure. Iron Man became a dic(tator). I got mad when Hank Pym chose Pro reg, but it was really a Skrull so that helped. And I was happy when Daredevil joined Anti reg but then I got disappointed when I realized it was really Iron Fist.

#35 Posted by Lvenger (20261 posts) - - Show Bio

I will quote Optimus Prime as my answer "Freedom is the right of all sentient creatures." With this answer I back the Anti-Registration because Neutrality is only saying that I am to afraid to fight for what I believe in.

I wouldn't call neutrality being afraid. Thor was neutral about the Civil War and that guy's no pansy when it comes to fighting. Similarly, Strange was neutral for the conflict so as not tip the scales of power in anyone's favour. And in my DC Civil War list, I place Superman as neutral and he always fights for what he believes in. BTW are you working on a DC Civil War list still?

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#36 Posted by lykopis (10746 posts) - - Show Bio

Anti-Registration. Birth Certificate and Social Insurance Numbers are enough when placing numbers on a human being.

Choosing neutral reflects does nothing. It's the equivalent of hiding (to me).

#37 Edited by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

what thor said to iron man.

#38 Posted by HumanRocket (8389 posts) - - Show Bio

I cast my vote for the anti side BUT I can see the issue with both sides. The pro side just wanted for the heroes to register with the gov and not reveal their faces to the world Spider-Man and Iron man just did that on their own so it may have been that many heroes saw them unmasking themeselves and thought all heroes had to. But then I can see ur anti side becuase during the dark reign Norman Osborn searched for the files containing the names of all known heroes and tony had to erase them from the data base and his own memory.

#39 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11745 posts) - - Show Bio

Anti-Reg. F THE GOV, MAN!

But for real, the way the Pro-Reg handled the anti's were so wrong. Kill or capture on sight? Like c'mon.

#40 Posted by BlueLantern1995 (2448 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger

@lvenger said:

@bluelantern1995 said:

I will quote Optimus Prime as my answer "Freedom is the right of all sentient creatures." With this answer I back the Anti-Registration because Neutrality is only saying that I am to afraid to fight for what I believe in.

I wouldn't call neutrality being afraid. Thor was neutral about the Civil War and that guy's no pansy when it comes to fighting. Similarly, Strange was neutral for the conflict so as not tip the scales of power in anyone's favour. And in my DC Civil War list, I place Superman as neutral and he always fights for what he believes in. BTW are you working on a DC Civil War list still?

I didn't mean for it to sound that all neutral people are afraid(even though I said it, man why did I say that?) What I meant was that neutrality is not really a option and really only favors the winning side whichever side that may be and in that sense they are "cowards" for not fighting for the side they believe in. This is not the "coward" who runs from a fight but rather a "coward" who is afraid to stick up for what he believes in. In that sense Strange and Thor are "cowards" though I understand why.

Oh BTW, I am working on that list still. Should have that list up soon. Will definitely tell you when :).

#41 Posted by Lvenger (20261 posts) - - Show Bio

I didn't mean for it to sound that all neutral people are afraid(even though I said it, man why did I say that?) What I meant was that neutrality is not really a option and really only favors the winning side whichever side that may be and in that sense they are "cowards" for not fighting for the side they believe in. This is not the "coward" who runs from a fight but rather a "coward" who is afraid to stick up for what he believes in. In that sense Strange and Thor are "cowards" though I understand why.

Oh BTW, I am working on that list still. Should have that list up soon. Will definitely tell you when :).

It may be that the sides are so blurred that choosing a concrete side to be on may not be possible as everything. Thor was out of the loop so didn't want to pick a side in a fight he had been out of for ages and Strange didn't want to unbalance everything.

Interesting. Looking forward to it.

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#42 Posted by TheCowman (461 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a tough one, cause I kinda agree with the spirit of the Pro-Reg stance. While personal rights and liberties are top priority, there's no denying at just how much superpowers change the balance of the world. Knowing who is who and who can do what could save millions of lives.

The problem with Pro-Reg is in how they implemented it. They should have offered perks to heroes who signed up with the act instead of arresting those who didn't. Make it so attractive to be a member that most heroes would WANT to sign up.

The training of people to use their powers was botched as well. They weren't training the students to use their powers safely and responsibly; they were training them to be soldiers for the Initiative. It's fine if the person wants to be part of a hero team, but for someone like Cloud 9 who just wanted to fly to school instead of walking, that's unacceptable.

If I were a Marvel hero during the Civil War, I'd probably have been accepting of the Registration Act when I first heard about it; but when I saw how they were enforcing it, I'd have had to switch to neutrality or anti-reg. Probably neutrality since I didn't totally agree with how Cap and company handled their movement either.

#43 Posted by Black_Arrow (3201 posts) - - Show Bio

anti reg all the way. why a man has to become a cop to do good? Seriously if i have superpowers i woudnt want to become a full time superheroe because that is not the job that i want in my life. pro registration obligates you to become a cop.

#44 Posted by The Stegman (24661 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro Registration.

#45 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7708 posts) - - Show Bio

Anti but mostly due to the book's characterization. Not only does registration mean possible enemies finding out secret identities but what happens when the government starts telling supers who and what to kill.

#46 Posted by Dragonborn_CT (22661 posts) - - Show Bio

Anti-Reg, because it made more sense and was on morally superior ground than Pro-Reg.

#47 Posted by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (5968 posts) - - Show Bio
#48 Posted by xxxddd (3572 posts) - - Show Bio

@pwok21 said:

As a civilian Pro-Reg.

If I were a hero, Anti-Reg.

#49 Edited by mtrakos (563 posts) - - Show Bio

CAP SAID IT BEST!!!

#50 Edited by novi_homines (1338 posts) - - Show Bio

Pro Reg. Humans can't always be trusted to do the right things. They need to be held accountable.

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