Okay no really, how strong are they?

#1 Posted by daak1212 (7901 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay.....so after reading the last couple of issues of Fantastic Four I have a big question of their power. So they recognize Franklin Richards as an equal and a universal warper/destroyer. Franklin Richards created his own universe as a kid (Heroes Reborn). Now if Franklin is a Universe breaker and is equal to a Celestial and 3 Celestials over powered him and he needed Galactus with the power of a baby Universe to stop them. Celestials are Universe breakers aren't they? (I know it sounds like I answered my own question but I feel that someone with counter this argument)

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If 1 Celestial=Franklin Richards= Omega+ Mutant/Universal Manipulator

and all of them combined should equal Multiversal breaker or manipulator and the Horde In I think Eternals Vol. 3 or 4 are equal to them and Tiamut is equal to Jack the Bartender who is stronger than all of the Watchers/Celestials/Horde combined....is Tiamut/Jack the Bartender equal to TOAA?

#2 Posted by daak1212 (7901 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#3 Edited by AssertingValor (5391 posts) - - Show Bio

one step under galactus....

@daak1212 said:

Okay.....so after reading the last couple of issues of Fantastic Four I have a big question of their power. So they recognize Franklin Richards as an equal and a universal warper/destroyer. Franklin Richards created his own universe as a kid (Heroes Reborn). Now if Franklin is a Universe breaker and is equal to a Celestial and 3 Celestials over powered him and he needed Galactus with the power of a baby Universe to stop them. Celestials are Universe breakers aren't they? (I know it sounds like I answered my own question but I feel that someone with counter this argument)

Next Question.

If 1 Celestial=Franklin Richards= Omega+ Mutant/Universal Manipulator

and all of them combined should equal Multiversal breaker or manipulator and the Horde In I think Eternals Vol. 3 or 4 are equal to them and Tiamut is equal to Jack the Bartender who is stronger than all of the Watchers/Celestials/Horde combined....is Tiamut/Jack the Bartender equal to TOAA?

Doubt it......highly.......

#4 Posted by daak1212 (7901 posts) - - Show Bio

@LordMaverick: Well hears the thing, Tiamut=Jack Kirby so maybe he is TOAA?

#5 Posted by Edenstar (79 posts) - - Show Bio

We really don't know. They're easily within the realm of the abstracts. The level of power they possess is crazy. They have been able to seal the Goblin Force, which ate the Phoenix Force of its dimension, slew Galactus and was about to turn its attention to the universe itself. The Celestials are able to communicate across realities, as they can contact alternate versions of themselves. We don't know their function, intentions, etc. Heck, we're not even sure about the full nature of their existence! We know more about Eternity, Galactus, Death, and all the other abstracts than them. Then there are those select Celestials that are beyond the rest of their kind: Arishem, Exitar, Tiamat/Dreaming Celestial, the One Above All. Arishem tanked a blast from Odin, Zeus and Vinshu without any damage.

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