@HexThis said:

@battyfan1 said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@battyfan1: @battyfan1 said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

hey chips.

Yeah i heard somewhere that Chris didn't want her in the movie......BIG mistake that would have been. She was one of the best thing about this movie.

And your right, Nolan doesn't know how to do romance, Talia was ..ummmm...useless is the term that comes to mind. That one night stand was like a WTF moment for me and i think it was done poorly b/c it was right after the rachel letter reveal and alfred leaving him.....and going broke asssssss...lols

Bale had no chemistry with marian (sp?)......it was really forced thus making bruce kind of OOC when it came to "caring about her and rescuing her or whatever"........

still really happy with the movie.......

I know. Yeah, the misdirection on the love interest was just so laughable. I did like Talia's reveal and the scene where she was tenderly putting back Banes tubes was a nice touch. And Bane tearing up while she was talking. It's kind of intriguing. Very beauty and the beast. You know there's an explosion of Bane/Talia fanfics now, right?

That's...disturbing

,,,,,,,ok that is really disturbing.......lols.....

but fanfiction has always been disturbing.....

I must admit I thought it was almost sweet Bane felt so protective over Talia and I found her re-adjusting his mask to be somehow...wholesome. You almost forget that they're mastermind terrorists with genocidal ambitions.

I wonder if the reaction is divided along gender lines. I thought this just added more texture to their relationship -- he protected her, she rescued him. They seem to have this symbiotic relationship even back then and I guess that would form a strong bond between them. Some think it diminishes Bane for him to love Talia. Even if it is romantic, not sure why loving someone is seen as a weakness. It's a natural emotion and explains his motivation. Plus, they seemed more like partners running the League rather than leader/lackey.

she was anne hathaway , not the greatest performance , thought fight choreography was real basic nothin special, the ear goggles were cool i guess...

She made all previous attempts at playing the character irrelevant. She IS Catwoman now. Amazing performance, one of the best in the film.

@HexThis said:

@Vance Astro said:

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@Vance Astro: How did you picture Selina Kyle?

Iunno, for starters, someone who isn't built like a teenager....

Awh, well Scarlet Johansson has curves but she couldn't muster a Russian accent or anything further than her usually monotone. Also, I noticed Anne actually had quite the hip/slim waist hour glass body which surprised me! She had a sick body in that suit.

I actually thought, speaking of physicality, that she did a good job with the stunts. Notice, it's almost all Anne Hathaway herself! She flipped out of the window, did all her stuff for the roof fight, the bar fight- I even thought she sold a good punch in the airport too. The only thing she didn't do was breaking through a window at one point and some of the batpod shots.

I think people get this idea of Selina Kyle as being hyper-sexual and overt but there's just as much of her acting subtly, particularly in her solo series. Brubaker and Darwyn Cooke had her as more of a femme fatale which was really her initial role, it was only Frank Miller and Tim Burton that turned her super-kinky.

I'm actually very very happy with the direction that Nolan went with Selina. Unlike the usual DC crapfest which practically pimps the character out to lonely fanboys (i.e. Catwoman #1, Arkham City, Catwoman Short, etc.), there wasn't an over-emphasis on her physical sexuality. Instead Nolan chose to focus on the whole package. I thought Anne came across extremely sexy in a way that only a smart, witty, confident and attractive woman can be. But I understand that can be quite intimidating to some who'd prefer a dumb mute blow-up doll. No matter, majority of fans and critics loved her (credit for this image to Batman-on-Film)

By the way, in real life, Anne is very much Selina in this interview:

http://dumblydore.tumblr.com/post/28019810346/sonic-hip-attack-what-the-fuck-is-this-guys

Reminds me so much of that scene with Daggett...

@chipsnopotatoes said:

I wonder if the reaction is divided along gender lines. I thought this just added more texture to their relationship -- he protected her, she rescued him. They seem to have this symbiotic relationship even back then and I guess that would form a strong bond between them. Some think it diminishes Bane for him to love Talia. Even if it is romantic, not sure why loving someone is seen as a weakness. It's a natural emotion and explains his motivation. Plus, they seemed more like partners running the League rather than leader/lackey.

Maybe, I don't think a lot of Bane fans liked him being subservient to Talia, that was tough for them. But it's not unlike his relationship with Scandal in the comics, whom he's been very protective over always. Maybe it's emasculating to some or something seeing as how he was also Poison Ivy's thug in Batman and Robin. Personally, I think it actually helped to humanize the character so he was more than just a thug.

@chipsnopotatoes said:

I'm actually very very happy with the direction that Nolan went with Selina. Unlike the usual DC crapfest which practically pimps the character out to lonely fanboys (i.e. Catwoman #1, Arkham City, Catwoman Short, etc.), there wasn't an over-emphasis on her physical sexuality. Instead Nolan chose to focus on the whole package. I thought Anne came across extremely sexy in a way that only a smart, witty, confident and attractive woman can be. But I understand that can be quite intimidating to some who'd prefer a dumb mute blow-up doll. No matter, majority of fans and critics loved her (credit for this image to Batman-on-Film)

I'm thrilled! I see a lot of trollin' going on in this Catwoman board as of late though, it's a shame. It's comes down to a bunch o' poor sports, everyone thought she'd suck but it turns out she was pretty good, admitting one is so thoroughly wrong is often a humiliating experience most try to avoid.

I thought Nolan did a fantastic job of giving his Catwoman credibility, she didn't rest on laurels of previous incarnations. He didn't go down the easy path, he chose an actress a lot of people doubted, he didn't pelt us with innuendo, and he didn't even over-do the cat motif- he defined her as Selina, as a person which is very important to all the more superficial things.

Although, I did think when Bruce takes off her necklace and she kisses him was a very cat-like moment. Cats will swat at you and mew in your face then when you least expect it they're licking you and purring.

loved her portrayal..... never doubted her...mainly becoz of ledger's portrayal of the joker

Awh, well Scarlet Johansson has curves but she couldn't muster a Russian accent or anything further than her usually monotone.

Also, I noticed Anne actually had quite the hip/slim waist hour glass body which surprised me! She had a sick body in that suit.

I actually thought, speaking of physicality, that she did a good job with the stunts. Notice, it's almost all Anne Hathaway herself! She flipped out of the window, did all her stuff for the roof fight, the bar fight- I even thought she sold a good punch in the airport too. The only thing she didn't do was breaking through a window at one point and some of the batpod shots.

I think people get this idea of Selina Kyle as being hyper-sexual and overt but there's just as much of her acting subtly, particularly in her solo series. Brubaker and Darwyn Cooke had her as more of a femme fatale which was really her initial role, it was only Frank Miller and Tim Burton that turned her super-kinky.

@Vance Astro: I couldn't disagree more.

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@HexThis said:

@Vance Astro said:

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@Vance Astro: How did you picture Selina Kyle?

Iunno, for starters, someone who isn't built like a teenager....

Awh, well Scarlet Johansson has curves but she couldn't muster a Russian accent or anything further than her usually monotone. Also, I noticed Anne actually had quite the hip/slim waist hour glass body which surprised me! She had a sick body in that suit.

I actually thought, speaking of physicality, that she did a good job with the stunts. Notice, it's almost all Anne Hathaway herself! She flipped out of the window, did all her stuff for the roof fight, the bar fight- I even thought she sold a good punch in the airport too. The only thing she didn't do was breaking through a window at one point and some of the batpod shots.

I think people get this idea of Selina Kyle as being hyper-sexual and overt but there's just as much of her acting subtly, particularly in her solo series. Brubaker and Darwyn Cooke had her as more of a femme fatale which was really her initial role, it was only Frank Miller and Tim Burton that turned her super-kinky.

I'm actually very very happy with the direction that Nolan went with Selina. Unlike the usual DC crapfest which practically pimps the character out to lonely fanboys (i.e. Catwoman #1, Arkham City, Catwoman Short, etc.), there wasn't an over-emphasis on her physical sexuality. Instead Nolan chose to focus on the whole package. I thought Anne came across extremely sexy in a way that only a smart, witty, confident and attractive woman can be. But I understand that can be quite intimidating to some who'd prefer a dumb mute blow-up doll. No matter, majority of fans and critics loved her (credit for this image to Batman-on-Film)

By the way, in real life, Anne is very much Selina in this interview:

http://dumblydore.tumblr.com/post/28019810346/sonic-hip-attack-what-the-fuck-is-this-guys

Reminds me so much of that scene with Daggett...

I do like how Anne Hathaway portrayed Catwoman. I think she is the best Catwoman ever. But I disagree at calling DC crapfest. She has always been a very sensual character, there are just other dimension to her. Anne Hathaway showed how to translate comics sexiness into real life nolan-verse.

@Madame_Mist said:

She exceeded my expectations. Hathaway pulled it off.

My thoughts exactly- thought she would be good/ok, but she was great :D

@RedQueen said:

@Madame_Mist said:

She exceeded my expectations. Hathaway pulled it off.

My thoughts exactly- thought she would be good/ok, but she was great :D

I feel as if I missed something truly great and awe inspiring...

@Thirteen13 said:

@RedQueen said:

@Madame_Mist said:

She exceeded my expectations. Hathaway pulled it off.

My thoughts exactly- thought she would be good/ok, but she was great :D

I feel as if I missed something truly great and awe inspiring...

She was basically the embodiment of Selina Kyle. Her traits and mannerisms were very much like her comic book counterpart. Too anyone who just knows of her or doesn't read the comics she's been in, they would have witnessed an enjoyable performance, but if one reads the comics she's been in, it was like she was ripped out of its pages.

Nolan grabbed the traits of Selina and gave her a great interpretation. She may not appeal to everyone, but she gave a spectacular performance IMO. There were doubts at first because the costume wasn't what was expected and Anne Hathaway didn't seem to fit the character. But her performance was just spot on. She's hands down the best Catwoman who has appeared in film.

She was basically the embodiment of Selina Kyle. Her traits and mannerisms were very much like her comic book counterpart.

@Madame_Mist said:

@Thirteen13 said:

@RedQueen said:

@Madame_Mist said:

She exceeded my expectations. Hathaway pulled it off.

My thoughts exactly- thought she would be good/ok, but she was great :D

I feel as if I missed something truly great and awe inspiring...

She was basically the embodiment of Selina Kyle. Her traits and mannerisms were very much like her comic book counterpart. Too anyone who just knows of her or doesn't read the comics she's been in, they would have witnessed an enjoyable performance, but if one reads the comics she's been in, it was like she was ripped out of its pages.

Nolan grabbed the traits of Selina and gave her a great interpretation. She may not appeal to everyone, but she gave a spectacular performance IMO. There were doubts at first because the costume wasn't what was expected and Anne Hathaway didn't seem to fit the character. But her performance was just spot on. She's hands down the best Catwoman who has appeared in film.

Exactly; the attention to detail - like the almost purring effect of her voice (without- thankfully- any actual purring). Reading the comics she's been in definitely gives her performance an entirely new perspective.

@LiquidPrince said:

She was fantastic. Only thing was I still maintain that Catwoman needs to be more busty. But acting wise, she was flawless.

Great Post!

@Vance Astro said:

@Madame_Mist said:

She was basically the embodiment of Selina Kyle. Her traits and mannerisms were very much like her comic book counterpart.

I strongly disagree with this. Her traits and mannerisms couldn't have been more off base.

What faults did you pick up? I don't mean that in a rude way, far from it, I'm just curious is all.

@Madame_Mist: Hmmm, I saw TDKR and thought her performance was okay at best and IMO she's quite unconvincing as a badass. Needless to say I am quite surprised to see people rave about her and even claim she gave the best performance in TDKR. Although I have to admit I am largely unfamiliar with the character of Selina Kyle, is she meant to be a somewhat uneven and forced seeming character?

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@entropy_aegis: I actually loved a lot of his lines, especially when he was beating up Bruce. "Shadows betray you because they belong to me". Trust Nolan to be refined even in trash talk.

There can be no true despair without hope,and I just read 2 of those fics and both turned out to be porn oriented...illuminating experience indeed,on par with Catwoman #1.lololol

Oh dear! Poor you. The one I read wasn't porn but it was about Bane and Young Talia. I was creeped out.

By the way, speaking of the despair/hope duality (which I'm surprised very few reviewers touched upon), I re watched the scene where Bruce was making the leap. It looked like he failed because the rope held him back. Kind of like a choice between a safety net and real freedom. I thought it was made short on purpose but my eyes could be deceiving me.

LOL

Yup,I'm sure Nolan was trying to get that very point across.

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@HexThis said:

@battyfan1 said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@chipsnopotatoes said:

@battyfan1: @battyfan1 said:

@chipsnopotatoes:

hey chips.

Yeah i heard somewhere that Chris didn't want her in the movie......BIG mistake that would have been. She was one of the best thing about this movie.

And your right, Nolan doesn't know how to do romance, Talia was ..ummmm...useless is the term that comes to mind. That one night stand was like a WTF moment for me and i think it was done poorly b/c it was right after the rachel letter reveal and alfred leaving him.....and going broke asssssss...lols

Bale had no chemistry with marian (sp?)......it was really forced thus making bruce kind of OOC when it came to "caring about her and rescuing her or whatever"........

still really happy with the movie.......

I know. Yeah, the misdirection on the love interest was just so laughable. I did like Talia's reveal and the scene where she was tenderly putting back Banes tubes was a nice touch. And Bane tearing up while she was talking. It's kind of intriguing. Very beauty and the beast. You know there's an explosion of Bane/Talia fanfics now, right?

That's...disturbing

,,,,,,,ok that is really disturbing.......lols.....

but fanfiction has always been disturbing.....

I must admit I thought it was almost sweet Bane felt so protective over Talia and I found her re-adjusting his mask to be somehow...wholesome. You almost forget that they're mastermind terrorists with genocidal ambitions.

I wonder if the reaction is divided along gender lines. I thought this just added more texture to their relationship -- he protected her, she rescued him. They seem to have this symbiotic relationship even back then and I guess that would form a strong bond between them. Some think it diminishes Bane for him to love Talia. Even if it is romantic, not sure why loving someone is seen as a weakness. It's a natural emotion and explains his motivation. Plus, they seemed more like partners running the League rather than leader/lackey.

I'm sure if if someone like Black Mask was using Bane then those morons would'nt have been complaining at all.Bane was established as a mercenary early on,and he's one in the comics he also has a similar relationship with Scandal .Talia was giving him the tools,he was using them simple as that.He also said"I AM the League of Shadows",idiots need to watch the movie again.

@Vance Astro said:

@Madame_Mist said:

She was basically the embodiment of Selina Kyle. Her traits and mannerisms were very much like her comic book counterpart.

I strongly disagree with this. Her traits and mannerisms couldn't have been more off base.

How?her mannerisms were EXACTLY like Selina.

@HexThis: Only so called Bane fans,real ones like myself have no problem whatsoever.

Still going back to the topic,Hathaway was the heart of the movie.

How? her mannerisms were EXACTLY like Selina.

@Madame_Mist: Hmmm, I saw TDKR and thought her performance was okay at best and IMO she's quite unconvincing as a badass. Needless to say I am quite surprised to see people rave about her and even claim she gave the best performance in TDKR.

@Vance Astro: -__-

@Vance Astro: IMO her overall performance appeared rather forced and lacklustre simply going through the motions and reciting lines, and it was practically impossible to buy her as a badass of any variety. However, it appears that I am in the minority in my opinion of her performance ...

@Vance Astro: -__-

At the very least her performance was better than any prior Catwoman performance, which granted is not much of an achievement considering how awful Pfeiffer and Berry were at the role.

At the very least her performance was better than any prior Catwoman performance, which granted is not much of an achievement considering how awful Pfeiffer and Berry were at the role.

@Vance Astro: Not even.

@Vance Astro said:

@CitizenBane said:

At the very least her performance was better than any prior Catwoman performance, which granted is not much of an achievement considering how awful Pfeiffer and Berry were at the role.

I liked Pfieffer :)

I didn't. Her portrayal was a nonsensical parody of the character with almost nothing drawn from the source material. Her lines were so bad I was in danger of going blind from all the eye-rolling. The only reason she's not the worst Catwoman ever is because Berry somehow managed to one-up her at that.

I loved her opening scene with the maid & the shootout but after that it was just meh....

I didn't. Her portrayal was a nonsensical parody of the character with almost nothing drawn from the source material. Her lines were so bad I was in danger of going blind from all the eye-rolling. The only reason she's not the worst Catwoman ever is because Berry somehow managed to one-up her at that.

@CODYSF: i agree with you i was surprised she was good.

Anne Hathaway was great and I loved her but she wasn't my favorite character in the movie.

@sethysquare said:

I do like how Anne Hathaway portrayed Catwoman. I think she is the best Catwoman ever. But I disagree at calling DC crapfest. She has always been a very sensual character, there are just other dimension to her. Anne Hathaway showed how to translate comics sexiness into real life nolan-verse.

Sensuality's not really an excuse for making crass objectified versions of the character. But, given the creative teams behind Arkham City & the Catwoman short and the majority of the audience they were targeting, I suppose it's expected.

Glad, Nolan took the high route and went classy.

@Mercy_ said:

@Vance Astro: Not even.

Anne Hathaway was great. Easily my second favorite character in the film behind Bane. 
 

Actually made me remember why i love her relationship with Bruce.

I liked her a lot, but she honestly didn't get enough background to really explore the character. None of my complaints with the character as portrayed in the film had to do with her performance however.

not good. not bad. average.

She really did great. I thought she wouldn't be able to pull it off but she really did great, especially when she was screaming. : )

i though she played her really well. alot better than i thought she would do. the only thing i was disapointed was her scenes where short and her romance and relationship with bruce was kinda rushed. but apart from that i really enjoyed it, she's really done the character justice from that last catwoman film

I loved Hathaway's performance -- and there certainly wasn't enough of her in the movie -- but to me she still wasn't Selina Kyle. I think the part called for Angelina Jolie or Gina Gershon. Anne Hathaway would have made a better Holly Robinson -- that's who she reminded me of when she was running around in her high tech cat suit.

She actually did very well.

It was the sh!t.

I like Anne but I couldn't see her as Catwoman at all. All I saw in my mind's eye was her being really corny. She proved me wrong and I enjoyed her role immensely.

She did ok if I didn't think of her as the character she was playing.

She actually did very well.

@TheGoldenOne said:

She actually did very well.

More like Epic.

I was indifferent towards Anne before TDKR but she really won me over and now I just think she's so fabulous. ~o~

I thought she was amazing. Even better than Michelle Pfeifer.

I think she did great with what Nolan allowed her to do. Nolan tends to play characters too safe by the third movie so Hathaway did not have the opportunity to act out a Phifer quality Catwoman. People sometimes forget that the Director controls how much an actor can or cannot do.

@The Stegman said:

She was fantastic.