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    Character » Cassandra Cain appears in 879 issues.

    The daughter of two notorious assassins, David Cain and Lady Shiva, Cassandra left her father as a child after she killed a man and saw his pain and fear while he died. After saving Commissioner Gordon's life, she became the new Batgirl with Batman and Oracle's blessing, and was later adopted by Bruce Wayne. She would later give the role of Batgirl to her friend Stephanie Brown, and became Black Bat. In the New 52 and Rebirth, she takes the alias of Orphan.

    Return of Cassandra Cain?!?!

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    #1  Edited By Mercy_

    As fans of the character know, she's been pretty much absent from not only the Bat-family books, but from comics in general as of late. Sure she's had a passing mention here and there, but nothing to sate our love for the character. Hopefully that will all be changing soon. 


    So what are your thoughts on this? Do you like the new costume? Do you think she's going to end up incorporated into Batman INC, or involved in the Bat-family some other way? I mean, the Batgirl costume is pretty evident (I'm loving this take on it, btw). What are your hopes for the character? What would you like to see happen?

    Thanks to danhimself, Gambler and Doctor Damn for the acquired info. 

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    #3  Edited By jrock85
    @The Dark Huntress:
    I'd love to see her return to prominence.
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    #4  Edited By Mercy_
    @Duo_forbidden: I kinda like the mask. 

    @jrock85 said:
    " @The Dark Huntress: I'd love to see her return to prominence. "
    ME TOO. She's such a great character. I was completely surprised to see this development, but in a good way. 
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    #5  Edited By TheBlueAngel93

    Glad to see Cass back under the cowl, hopefully this will lead to her heading back to Gotham and having a talk with Bruce.

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    #6  Edited By jrock85
    @The Dark Huntress:
    Bruce should make her his operative in Hong Kong.
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    #7  Edited By Duo_forbidden
    @The Dark Huntress:
    It's probably because I'm so used to seeing her in her old costume. Either way, I'm just glad she's going to be in Red Robin again along with the upcoming Batman: Gates of Gotham.
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    #8  Edited By danhimself

    I was so excited when I saw this that I immediately stopped everything and sent it to my fellow Cass Cain lover; Gambler

    They need to make Cass Bruce's sidekick in Batman Inc or something just so she can be in an ongoing title....or better yet give her her own ongoing again!

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    #9  Edited By Doctor Damn
    @danhimself said:
    " I was so excited when I saw this that I immediately stopped everything and sent it to my fellow Cass Cain lover; GamblerThey need to make Cass Bruce's sidekick in Batman Inc or something just so she can be in an ongoing title....or better yet give her her own ongoing again! "
    I was actually thinking of Cass permanently staying on Red Robin as Tim's partner. It would be a new take on the Robin/Bat relationship like Dick and Damien was. I wonder if she's going to go by Batgirl or something else.
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    may seem an odd statement but I've always liked her with Tim and him with her. Plus she is just insanely awesome and I can't wait for her return.

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    #11  Edited By Mercy_
    @danhimself said:
    " I was so excited when I saw this that I immediately stopped everything and sent it to my fellow Cass Cain lover; GamblerThey need to make Cass Bruce's sidekick in Batman Inc or something just so she can be in an ongoing title....or better yet give her her own ongoing again! "
    And the second he told me, I realized I couldn't contain my excitement. So on the behalf of both him and myself, thank you. :D

    @Doctor Damn said:
    " @danhimself said:
    " I was so excited when I saw this that I immediately stopped everything and sent it to my fellow Cass Cain lover; GamblerThey need to make Cass Bruce's sidekick in Batman Inc or something just so she can be in an ongoing title....or better yet give her her own ongoing again! "
    I was actually thinking of Cass permanently staying on Red Robin as Tim's partner. It would be a new take on the Robin/Bat relationship like Dick and Damien was. I wonder if she's going to go by Batgirl or something else. "
    I would love to see that happen. 
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    #12  Edited By GreenParrot
    @Doctor Damn said:
    " I was actually thinking of Cass permanently staying on Red Robin as Tim's partner. It would be a new take on the Robin/Bat relationship like Dick and Damien was. "
    That's what I want to happen.
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    #13  Edited By Primmaster64

    Maybe she'll finally meet Jason.

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    #14  Edited By The_Ghostshell
    @Primmaster64 said:
    " Maybe she'll finally meet Jason. "
    That would be awesome.
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    #15  Edited By Primmaster64
    @Gambler said:
    " @Primmaster64 said:
    " Maybe she'll finally meet Jason. "
    That would be awesome. "
    Indeed, its about time too.
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    #16  Edited By RedK
    @Gambler said:
    " @Primmaster64 said:
    " Maybe she'll finally meet Jason. "
    That would be awesome. "
    i'd love to see that fight
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    #17  Edited By Primmaster64

    Indeed, and I think Tim can take her on now.

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    #18  Edited By SmoothJammin

    @Primmaster64:
    ughh no thnx I respectfully disagree with you on that one Prim. Tim beating Cass in h2h defies logic.. bad writing imo, Snyder won't allow such an injustice

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    #19  Edited By danhimself
    @Doctor Damn said:
    " @danhimself said:
    " I was so excited when I saw this that I immediately stopped everything and sent it to my fellow Cass Cain lover; GamblerThey need to make Cass Bruce's sidekick in Batman Inc or something just so she can be in an ongoing title....or better yet give her her own ongoing again! "
    I was actually thinking of Cass permanently staying on Red Robin as Tim's partner. It would be a new take on the Robin/Bat relationship like Dick and Damien was. I wonder if she's going to go by Batgirl or something else. "
    that's a great idea!!

    @Primmaster64 said:
    " Indeed, and I think Tim can take her on now. "

    uhhh no
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    #20  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt

    Love the costume. Hopefully she'll be Batgirl again (there's two Batmen, let's have two Batgirls). And have her become Tim's partner. That'd be great.

    @danhimself said:


    @Primmaster64 said:
    " Indeed, and I think Tim can take her on now. "
    uhhh no "
    Yeah, not a chance..lol
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    #21  Edited By Puvi2Groovy

    Tbh, will depend on the prep time - Tim did beat Lady Shiva in the last issue of his Robin series. Here he used his brains and didn't actually have to do any h2h.

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    #22  Edited By entropy_aegis
    @Primmaster64 said:
    "Indeed, and I think Tim can take her on now. "

     

    Umm no,at the peak of their abilities Tim would get flattened.
    @RedK said:

    " @Gambler said:
    " @Primmaster64 said:
    " Maybe she'll finally meet Jason. "
    That would be awesome. "
    i'd love to see that fight "


    You wanna see Jason get his ass kicked?

     

    and i'm indifferent to Cain at this point,will pick up the book for Tim but Cass as a character has outlived her usefullness.

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    #23  Edited By The_Ghostshell
    @Puvi2Groovy said:

    " Tbh, will depend on the prep time - Tim did beat Lady Shiva in the last issue of his Robin series. Here he used his brains and didn't actually have to do any h2h. "

    With a nice helping of PIS. He didnt even land a shot on her and she broke his ribs despite being poisoned.
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    #24  Edited By entropy_aegis
    @Gambler said:
    "@Puvi2Groovy said:

    " Tbh, will depend on the prep time - Tim did beat Lady Shiva in the last issue of his Robin series. Here he used his brains and didn't actually have to do any h2h. "

    With a nice helping of PIS. He didnt even land a shot on her and she broke his ribs despite being poisoned. "

    LOL,poison.You'd expect an assasin of her caliber to be more careful .
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    #25  Edited By The_Ghostshell
    @entropy_aegis said:
    " @Gambler said:
    "@Puvi2Groovy said:

    " Tbh, will depend on the prep time - Tim did beat Lady Shiva in the last issue of his Robin series. Here he used his brains and didn't actually have to do any h2h. "

    With a nice helping of PIS. He didnt even land a shot on her and she broke his ribs despite being poisoned. "
    LOL,poison.You'd expect an assasin of her caliber to be more careful . "
    Right? I mean come on. I can get over her being poisoned, but Tim somehow knowing what hotel she'd stay in because she has extravagant taste (something introduced in that story alone by the way) and then poisoning her turn down service chocolate........I understand they needed a way for Tim to win without having him physically best Shiva, but come on now lol
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    #26  Edited By entropy_aegis
    @Gambler said:
    " @entropy_aegis said:
    " @Gambler said:
    "@Puvi2Groovy said:

    " Tbh, will depend on the prep time - Tim did beat Lady Shiva in the last issue of his Robin series. Here he used his brains and didn't actually have to do any h2h. "

    With a nice helping of PIS. He didnt even land a shot on her and she broke his ribs despite being poisoned. "
    LOL,poison.You'd expect an assasin of her caliber to be more careful . "
    Right? I mean come on. I can get over her being poisoned, but Tim somehow knowing what hotel she'd stay in because she has extravagant taste (something introduced in that story alone by the way) and then poisoning her turn down service chocolate........I understand they needed a way for Tim to win without having him physically best Shiva, but come on now lol "

    Did'nt she show extravagant taste in Cassandra's Batgirl ongoing?issue 24 or 25 where they first fought.Shiva was walking around like a celeb.
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    #27  Edited By The_Ghostshell
    @entropy_aegis said:
    " Did'nt she show extravagant taste in Cassandra's Batgirl ongoing?issue 24 or 25 where they first fought.Shiva was walking around like a celeb. "
    Did she? I'd have to go back and look. But I'm pretty sure she was purposely exposing herself to lure Cass to her. I think it was referenced in one of the later issues in fact.
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    #28  Edited By entropy_aegis
    @The Dark Huntress said:
    "As fans of the character know, she's been pretty much absent from not only the Bat-family books, but from comics in general as of late. Sure she's had a passing mention here and there, but nothing to sate our love for the character. Hopefully that will all be changing soon. 

    So what are your thoughts on this? Do you like the new costume? Do you think she's going to end up incorporated into Batman INC, or involved in the Bat-family some other way? I mean, the Batgirl costume is pretty evident (I'm loving this take on it, btw). What are your hopes for the character? What would you like to see happen?

    Thanks to danhimself, Gambler and Doctor Damn for the acquired info. 


     
     
    RED ROBIN #25
    Written by FABIAN NICIEZA • Art and cover by MARCUS TO and RAY MCCARTHY
    If he’s going to avoid a fight against a psycho Super-Villain, end the 7 Days of Death, win the Assassination Tournament and discover ancient knowledge over life and death, Red Robin will have to survive a final battle against one of the world’s deadliest assassins. Her name? Cassandra Cain!    
     
    "

    Doubt she's goona be a part of INC,Snyder will use her in Gates of Gotham,Simone expressed interest but her proposals were shot down,Fabian i recall said that all this is just a part of the story and he does'nt have any plans for Cass at all.As for INC Bruce has a new Batgirl
     
     
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    #29  Edited By Puvi2Groovy

    But that's exactly it: he hit Shiva with a poison that wouldn't affect her until she fought him - when her heartbeat rate increased to a specific rate. I think Tim could beat Cass if they both had a few hours prep time - he'd think of something.

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    #30  Edited By viin

    she should become "black robin"

    or just go by Cassandra Cain just like her dad went by David Cain
    make her show up sometimes to help out and other times to fight em
    kinda like Lady Shiva...
    i also liked what she was wearing in Red Robin #17
    can she stay with that maybe add a bat logo or a hood?
    some swords? lol

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    The claws are very Shuri esque, can't believe I missed this -_-

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    #32  Edited By frogjitsu

    This is great new that she will once again grace the pages of Red Robin.  Now if only she would make more regular appearances, then that would be great.

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    #33  Edited By Supreme Marvel

    :'( She best not kill Tim.

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    #34  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
    She didn't kill him while brainwashed, no reason to think she'd do it now.
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    @Morpheus_ said:
    " She didn't kill him while brainwashed, no reason to think she'd do it now. "
    Though we have no idea where she has been ;)
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    #36  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
    @.Mistress Redhead.: I haven't followed Red Robin so I don't know of her current status (she has appeared in the series before), just saying Tim won't bite the dust no matter what. :P
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    @Morpheus_ said:
    " @.Mistress Redhead.: I haven't followed Red Robin so I don't know of her current status (she has appeared in the series before), just saying Tim won't bite the dust no matter what. :P "
    Its probably just one of those "teaser" images that means nothing to do with the comic lol I have not followed RR either much
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    #38  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
    @.Mistress Redhead.:The solicitation does state they will fight, so it's likely there's more to it than just a cool cover.
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    #39  Edited By Outside_85

    While i would like her to return, and take back what is hers, i dont care for the mask and wrappings, sort of makes me think of her having robbed Nightshade (mask) and Wild Cat (Ted's) closests.

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    @Morpheus_ said:
    " @.Mistress Redhead.:The solicitation does state they will fight, so it's likely there's more to it than just a cool cover. "
    Damn, well there goes that argument ;)
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    #41  Edited By velle37
    @viin said:
    "she should become "black robin"
    or just go by Cassandra Cain just like her dad went by David Cain
    make her show up sometimes to help out and other times to fight em
    kinda like Lady Shiva...
    i also liked what she was wearing in Red Robin #17
    can she stay with that maybe add a bat logo or a hood?
    some swords? lol

    "

    That sounds cool........
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    #42  Edited By saiyan_earthling

    It's about mother"beep"in time she returned!

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    #43  Edited By Harlekin

    Liked her ninja outfit better but at least she is somewhere not being written by Adam Beechen.

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    #44  Edited By A_O_N

    I don't think she'll be written well in that Red Robin piece. I am looking forward to her appearance in Gates of Gotham, however.

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    #45  Edited By The_Ghostshell

    I'm kind of over Cass. Congrats DC.

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    #46  Edited By Aiden Cross
    @Gambler said:
    " I'm kind of over Cass. Congrats DC. "
    That's a first o_O. Next you'll say you don't like Shiva :P
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    #47  Edited By Billy Batson

    yay

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    #48  Edited By The_Ghostshell
    @Aiden Cross said:
    " @Gambler said:
    " I'm kind of over Cass. Congrats DC. "
    That's a first o_O. Next you'll say you don't like Shiva :P "
    Being a fan of Cassandra Cain is like being a Detroit Lions fans. Year after Year, or Appearance after Appearance, you continually hope for the best only to have your dreams crushed as the appearance, or season, was worse then the last. I'm getting old, my health wont allow me to embrace anymore letdowns :P
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    #49  Edited By Aiden Cross
    @Gambler: LMAO! Well keep your expectations low then it can only go up from there!
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    #50  Edited By The_Ghostshell
    @Aiden Cross said:
    " @Gambler: LMAO! Well keep your expectations low then it can only go up from there! "
    My Cass expectations have a mind of their own. One of the drawbacks of being a fanboy I guess. Nope. I'm just going to turn my back on the whole thing.

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