ok, i admit i'm still getting to grips with the Marvel Universe...

and i may not have picked the perfect comic here to be my first monthly introduction...

but seriously can someone explain all this to me...

first she was just Ms Marvel... then she got her Binary powers back, now she's lost her Binary powers, or had them taken away from her, never quite did understand the difference between Binary and Ms Marvel's minds...

anyway, and now she's a Skrull?

is there some sort of decoder ring or something i need to understand all this?

please, anyone?

M

G-man started all of this skrull nonsense. I swear I saw him wearing a crown in his skrull form. :)

No idea and how did she lose her binary powers?

Copy says:

"G-man started all of this skrull nonsense. I swear I saw him wearing a crown in his skrull form. :)No idea and how did she lose her binary powers?"

i may have got it wrong, and this is what normally happens to her as Binary... as i said i'm only just getting to grips with the Marvel universe...

M

Wait she lost her Binary powers already? and is not a Skrull?

I'm so lost...

Fenris the Wolf says:

"Wait she lost her Binary powers already? and is not a Skrull?"

i thought she just lost her binary powers and was a Skrull...

scratches head

confused...

M

Buckshot says:

"That threw me off too. For some reason I don't think she's really a Skrull. Not only do were get her inner monologue all the time in her book (and Mighty Avengers), when Cru was all involved with her DNA nothing happened. I figure that sort of thing might give her away. Cru was healing her perfectly every time she got jacked up, if Cru saw her Skrull DNA and healed her according to that she'd look like a Skrull every time she healed. Unless the Skrull is so far undercover (a sleeper) that it doesn't know it's a Skrull (so it wouldn't be in the thoughts we read) and it's copying her on a level that not even aliens can detect, I don't think she's a Skrull. It could be a way to ferret out who the real Skrull on the team is though."

...

has never been more confused

M

Thanks m. And if she is a skrull, I feel bad for wonder man.

That threw me off too. For some reason I don't think she's really a Skrull. Not only do were get her inner monologue all the time in her book (and Mighty Avengers), when Cru was all involved with her DNA nothing happened. I figure that sort of thing might give her away. Cru was healing her perfectly every time she got jacked up, if Cru saw her Skrull DNA and healed her according to that she'd look like a Skrull every time she healed. Unless the Skrull is so far undercover (a sleeper) that it doesn't know it's a Skrull (so it wouldn't be in the thoughts we read) and it's copying her on a level that not even aliens can detect, I don't think she's a Skrull. It could be a way to ferret out who the real Skrull on the team is though.

Could there be two Ms Marvel's running around? One a Skrull and the other the real deal?

I liked Ms Marvel I hope she doesn't turn out to really be a Skrull.

Andferne says:

"Could there be two Ms Marvel's running around? One a Skrull and the other the real deal?"

That's what i think. Also there's an alternate reality Ms Marvel somewhere, from earlier in the series.
Post Edited:2008-02-08 19:37:18

so we actually could have 3 Ms Marvels running around...

damn, this is getting worse than Supergirl lol

why do i always have to pick the complicated ones?

M

Methos says:

"so we actually could have 3 Ms Marvels running around... damn, this is getting worse than Supergirl lol why do i always have to pick the complicated ones? M"

lol poor Methos. If it wasn't complicated, it wouldn't be fun though.....right?

Ms. Marvel's a Skrull...?

And about two Ms. Marvel's running around, they already did that in issue 10

I forgot to mention last night, I'm pretty sure this has been posted here before somewhere but here's the cover to issue 25:

AWWWW F#CK YOU MARVEL!

i'm actually more intrigued by the premise of Ms Marvel being a Skrull...

M

Methos says:

"i'm actually more intrigued by the premise of Ms Marvel being a Skrull... M"

So am I.well not so much intrigued as I am pissed! Ms.Marvel is my second favorite female superhero.We haven't discovered yet either if the skrulls are killing people and replacing them and Elektra and Blackbolt are dead.Or they are hiding them and replacing them meaning they both and Ms.Marvel are still alive.

i'm not sure as to what the Skrulls have planned... as you can see i'm only just getting into the Marvel universe, but Ms Marvel has become a quick favorite of mine :D

M

Buckshot says:

"That threw me off too. For some reason I don't think she's really a Skrull. Not only do were get her inner monologue all the time in her book (and Mighty Avengers), when Cru was all involved with her DNA nothing happened. I figure that sort of thing might give her away. Cru was healing her perfectly every time she got jacked up, if Cru saw her Skrull DNA and healed her according to that she'd look like a Skrull every time she healed. Unless the Skrull is so far undercover (a sleeper) that it doesn't know it's a Skrull (so it wouldn't be in the thoughts we read) and it's copying her on a level that not even aliens can detect, I don't think she's a Skrull. It could be a way to ferret out who the real Skrull on the team is though."

I really don't think Ms. Marvel is really a Skrull. An argument I made before was with all the thought balloons Bendis has used, it shows us what'd going on in their minds. Someone (sorry I forget who) said that maybe they are brainwashed into actually believing they are the hero they're impersonating. That makes sense to prevent telepaths and such read their minds. Buuuut we've already seen a couple who are fully aware they are skrulls:

Crusader:

and the Revolutionary from the Liberteens (sorry, don't have a scan of that).

hmmm...

so Skrull Watch has another 'possible' to add to their list lol

M
Post Edited:2008-02-09 12:29:34

If she is a Skrull I'm burning down Marvel's headquarters.

Methos says:

"i'm not sure as to what the Skrulls have planned... as you can see i'm only just getting into the Marvel universe, but Ms Marvel has become a quick favorite of mine :D M"

I'd recomend checking out Iron Fist, that series is awesome.

Methos says:

"i'm not sure as to what the Skrulls have planned... as you can see i'm only just getting into the Marvel universe, but Ms Marvel has become a quick favorite of mine :D M"

The Skrull empire is pretty much gone, their homeworld was eaten by Galactus, it's probably a start to a new empire.

Buckshot says:

"That threw me off too. For some reason I don't think she's really a Skrull. Not only do were get her inner monologue all the time in her book (and Mighty Avengers), when Cru was all involved with her DNA nothing happened. I figure that sort of thing might give her away. Cru was healing her perfectly every time she got jacked up, if Cru saw her Skrull DNA and healed her according to that she'd look like a Skrull every time she healed. Unless the Skrull is so far undercover (a sleeper) that it doesn't know it's a Skrull (so it wouldn't be in the thoughts we read) and it's copying her on a level that not even aliens can detect, I don't think she's a Skrull. It could be a way to ferret out who the real Skrull on the team is though."

Yeah I agree, I don't think she's a skrull. I think Iron Man could be the Skrull trying to throw us all off.
Post Edited:2008-02-09 13:03:21

zero edge says:

"Yeah I agree, I don't think she's a skrull. If anything, Iron Man could be the Skrull trying to throw us all off."

Iron Man as a Skrull...

he could have been a Skrull since before Civil War and all of it is one elaborate Skrull Plot to throw earth's mutants / metahumans into chaos...

i like it :D

M

The problem wit Iron Man being a Skrull (I've mentioned this in the other Skrull thread which is where we should be talking about all this http://www.comicvine.com/message/skrull-watch-08/460686/&c=124&page=7#post505543 ) is after Ultron gave him a sex change, Reed Richards and Hank Pym gave him a full diagnostic check. They looked at him inside and out. So unless they're Skrulls too, Tony Stark can't be.

The Skrulls may be smart and have advanced technology but I don't think they'd be smart enough to trick Richards and Pym. After all, these are the dudes that got tricked into being cows.

dunno...

i'll just wait and see what happens...

but it is fun to speculate about how long this invasion has been going on for

M

wasnt it since the day the fantastic 4 assembled?

Vance Astro says:

"I don't think so.If Iron Man of all people is a skrull Civil War was a total waste of time."

or Civil War was just another piece in the larger Skrull invasion plan...

M

Methos says:

"zero edge says:

"Yeah I agree, I don't think she's a skrull. If anything, Iron Man could be the Skrull trying to throw us all off."

Iron Man as a Skrull... he could have been a Skrull since before Civil War and all of it is one elaborate Skrull Plot to throw earth's mutants / metahumans into chaos... i like it :D M "

I don't think so.If Iron Man of all people is a skrull Civil War was a total waste of time.

Methos says:

"Vance Astro says:

"I don't think so.If Iron Man of all people is a skrull Civil War was a total waste of time."

or Civil War was just another piece in the larger Skrull invasion plan... M "

Yes exactly,however Iron Man is the greatest asset to the skrull invasion.If Iron Man is a skrull,Earth already lost.

which may be the actual point of it...

M

Methos says:

"which may be the actual point of it... M"

Well then...ummmm....ummmmm...If earth loses then what will be left? Damnit Marvel..the suspense is killing me.I honestly don't think Tony is a skrull though.

maybe Earth loosing is the next major arc...

with a massive crossover story following every issue about how the remaining heroes / villains survive the invasion and try and fight back

hell, even i'd buy that lol

M

Snap i just thought about sumthin... what if EVERYONE except the person that is mostly expected to be one (Iron Man) is a Skrull!?

Methos says:

"maybe Earth loosing is the next major arc... with a massive crossover story following **every** issue about how the remaining heroes / villains survive the invasion and try and fight back hell, even i'd buy that lol M"

Actually Methos,that would be kind of cool.If the Skrulls took over earth and then we get to see how humans live under skrulls and then it will be like Civil War all over again with heroes hiding out everywhere,waiting to strike.Only to rise up again and take earth back.Sounds good to me.

Vance Astro says:

"Actually Methos,that would be kind of cool.If the Skrulls took over earth and then we get to see how humans live under skrulls and then it will be like Civil War all over again with heroes hiding out everywhere,waiting to strike.Only to rise up again and take earth back.Sounds good to me."

yeah, that would be an amazingly dark story... it's have to be done well though and with amazing artwork all the way through...

M

Warlock360 says:

"Snap i just thought about sumthin... what if EVERYONE except the person that is mostly expected to be one (Iron Man) is a Skrull!?"

Then as I said,Earth doesn't stand a chance,but I'm sure people have always suspected him.Jessica Drew just started trusting him too.If it isn't him this thing can go two ways if not then it's only one way.

Methos says:

"Vance Astro says:

"Actually Methos,that would be kind of cool.If the Skrulls took over earth and then we get to see how humans live under skrulls and then it will be like Civil War all over again with heroes hiding out everywhere,waiting to strike.Only to rise up again and take earth back.Sounds good to me."

yeah, that would be an amazingly dark story... it's have to be done well though and with amazing artwork all the way through... M"

speaking of artwork,I would hope to see some Alex Ross on this project.

maybe the krees would get involved and wed get a Genis-Vell come back?

Vance Astro says:

"speaking of artwork,I would hope to see some Alex Ross on this project."

that would be cool :D

M

Warlock360 says:

"maybe the krees would get involved and wed get a Genis-Vell come back?"

The Kree are soft,I wouldn't count on it.The only thing here is if Dr.Strange,Silver Surfer,or Thor are skrulls in addition to Tony.We are really done.I don't think that they would let the Earth be taken over but you know it could go either way.