Am I the only guy who likes Carnage?

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#1 Posted by Graft (1812 posts) - - Show Bio

Curious here, I personally thought he was a great villain..

#2 Posted by John Valentine (16375 posts) - - Show Bio

Graft said:

"Bicurious here, I personally thought he was a great villain.."


Lol..............

Well you do have an affinity for liking characters that not many people like :).

#3 Edited by Graft (1812 posts) - - Show Bio

wtf

#4 Posted by King Saturn (226101 posts) - - Show Bio
Havent really read much with Carnage in a while
#5 Posted by John Valentine (16375 posts) - - Show Bio
What an undignified death.
#6 Edited by Graft (1812 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
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What an undignified death.
"
LOL

There is a possible chance he could come back, Was it ever determined whether Sentry killed the symbiote itself or Cletus Kasady?
#7 Edited by John Valentine (16375 posts) - - Show Bio
Graft said:
"John Valentine said:
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What an undignified death.
"
LOL

There is a possible chance he could back, Was it ever determined whether Sentry killed the symbiote itself or Cletus Kasady?"

He flew Carnage up to space and I assume Kasady was with him.
#8 Posted by Graft (1812 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmm, Is'nt the symbiote in Cletus's blood?  If so..they could say he gave a blood transfusion sometime before he died lol

#9 Edited by John Valentine (16375 posts) - - Show Bio
Graft said:
"Hmmm, Is'nt the symbiote in Cletus's blood?  If so..they could say he gave a blood transfusion sometime before he died lol"

He may not have been flown up. I just checked.
#10 Posted by Graft (1812 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh...damn

#11 Edited by John Valentine (16375 posts) - - Show Bio
Graft said:
"Oh...damn"

Iron Man said that he may not be dead in Mighty Avengers #8.
#12 Posted by Graft (1812 posts) - - Show Bio

Ah, Good

#13 Posted by Cezar_TheScribe (2617 posts) - - Show Bio

Wikipedia said something about Iron Man's computer not being able to detect if  Cletus was in the symbiote at the time.

He will be back soon enough.  You're not the only symbiote fan here. 

#14 Posted by Marvel Knight (1270 posts) - - Show Bio

They should leave him dead. He was interesting when he first started, like all the symbiotes. But Marvel needs to quit using them.

#15 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Graft said:
"Oh...damn"

Iron Man said that he may not be dead in Mighty Avengers #8."
Scan?

And I want him back.
#16 Posted by Citizen Vance (200 posts) - - Show Bio

Carnage sucks.That whole insanity thing..over done.How many insane villains can we have? How many symbiotes can we have? The whole symbiote thing is so boring now.What is the point of bringing him back? So Spider-Man can own him again? So he can fight Venom.I'd rather that not happen.Thing is..I know Carnage will be back,because all of Spider-Man's villains are coming back.Some of them needed to and I didn't mind but Carnage should stay dead.There is nothing cool about the character what so ever.

#17 Posted by TheDrifter (26566 posts) - - Show Bio
Citizen Vance said:
"Carnage sucks.That whole insanity thing..over done.How many insane villains can we have? How many symbiotes can we have? The whole symbiote thing is so boring now.What is the point of bringing him back? So Spider-Man can own him again? So he can fight Venom.I'd rather that not happen.Thing is..I know Carnage will be back,because all of Spider-Man's villains are coming back.Some of them needed to and I didn't mind but Carnage should stay dead.There is nothing cool about the character what so ever."
Disagreed
#18 Posted by Citizen Vance (200 posts) - - Show Bio
TheDrifter said:
"Citizen Vance said:
"Carnage sucks.That whole insanity thing..over done.How many insane villains can we have? How many symbiotes can we have? The whole symbiote thing is so boring now.What is the point of bringing him back? So Spider-Man can own him again? So he can fight Venom.I'd rather that not happen.Thing is..I know Carnage will be back,because all of Spider-Man's villains are coming back.Some of them needed to and I didn't mind but Carnage should stay dead.There is nothing cool about the character what so ever."
Disagreed"
Tell me than Drifter..what do you like about Carnage..for what reason would you want him back in Marvel?
#19 Posted by Slinger (7640 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought that Mighty Avengers' symbiot bomb was interesting, but otherwise, yeah, they're boring as hell. They need to be buried. All of them.

#20 Posted by TheDrifter (26566 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom got me into comics in the first place, I thought Carnage was a great concept. They should've stopped at Toxin though, Regardless, I've just always liked him. Dunno why.

#21 Posted by Citizen Vance (200 posts) - - Show Bio
TheDrifter said:
"Venom got me into comics in the first place, I thought Carnage was a great concept. They should've stopped at Toxin though, Regardless, I've just always liked him. Dunno why."
Carnage is the same exact thing as Venom..he's just clinically insane.The symbiotes themselves is not what makes the characters lame..the fact that they all do the same sh#t is what makes them lame.I liked Toxin.I read his mini then Marvel pretended he would be part of the Initiative and then they completely left him out it.
#22 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - - Show Bio

I grew up with Spidy. Venom and Carnage were the two main spidy villains for me. (Cept Norman makes it the 3 main villains for me now) And, I loved it how Venom describe Carnage and Venom relationship. Carnage is the "darker" side to Venom. Carnage took everything Venom had and made it ten times worst. Than Spidy said that's how Venom is to him. Personally, that was an "awe" moment for. Plus, Maximum Carnage storyline, was just awesome.

#23 Posted by Citizen Vance (200 posts) - - Show Bio
Shaper said:
"I grew up with Spidy. Venom and Carnage were the two main spidy villains for me. (Cept Norman makes it the 3 main villains for me now) And, I loved it how Venom describe Carnage and Venom relationship. Carnage is the "darker" side to Venom. Carnage took everything Venom had and made it ten times worst. Than Spidy said that's how Venom is to him. Personally, that was an "awe" moment for. Plus, Maximum Carnage storyline, was just awesome."
Carnage is Venom's son.That's just wrong..first of all.Carnage isn't a dark side of Venom either.Kletus Kassady and Eddie Brock are just two different people.Kassady is insane..and he had been before he became Carnage.Brock was just a regular guy.Maximum Carnage was awesome..but c'mon..It's 2009.
#24 Posted by Shonen (692 posts) - - Show Bio

I want more spider carnage I like when super heroes go insane.

#25 Edited by Citizen Vance (200 posts) - - Show Bio
Shonen said:
"I want more spider carnage I like when super heroes go insane."
We already have Moon Knight and Sentry.
#26 Posted by Nighthunter (28589 posts) - - Show Bio

Never been a fan so I can't really say I'm looking forward for his return lol

#27 Posted by Shaper (5168 posts) - - Show Bio
Citizen Vance said:
"Shaper said:
"I grew up with Spidy. Venom and Carnage were the two main spidy villains for me. (Cept Norman makes it the 3 main villains for me now) And, I loved it how Venom describe Carnage and Venom relationship. Carnage is the "darker" side to Venom. Carnage took everything Venom had and made it ten times worst. Than Spidy said that's how Venom is to him. Personally, that was an "awe" moment for. Plus, Maximum Carnage storyline, was just awesome."
Carnage is Venom's son.That's just wrong..first of all.Carnage isn't a dark side of Venom either.Kletus Kassady and Eddie Brock are just two different people.Kassady is insane..and he had been before he became Carnage.Brock was just a regular guy.Maximum Carnage was awesome..but c'mon..It's 2009."

Just think about it. It makes sense.

Spider-man: Good guy always trying to be a hero. Against killing lives.

Venom: Hero, that will kill anyone lives as long as it saves the innocent. Now, that is clearly the darker side of spider-man. Plus, Spider-man created Venom.

Carnage: Pure Villain. Kills lives. Everyone lives. Darker side to Venom but on a whole new level.
#28 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"Never been a fan so I can't really say I'm looking forward for his return lol"

same
#29 Posted by Citizen Vance (200 posts) - - Show Bio
Shaper said:
"Citizen Vance said:
"Shaper said:
"I grew up with Spidy. Venom and Carnage were the two main spidy villains for me. (Cept Norman makes it the 3 main villains for me now) And, I loved it how Venom describe Carnage and Venom relationship. Carnage is the "darker" side to Venom. Carnage took everything Venom had and made it ten times worst. Than Spidy said that's how Venom is to him. Personally, that was an "awe" moment for. Plus, Maximum Carnage storyline, was just awesome."
Carnage is Venom's son.That's just wrong..first of all.Carnage isn't a dark side of Venom either.Kletus Kassady and Eddie Brock are just two different people.Kassady is insane..and he had been before he became Carnage.Brock was just a regular guy.Maximum Carnage was awesome..but c'mon..It's 2009."

Venom: Hero, that will kill anyone lives as long as it saves the innocent. Now, that is clearly the darker side of spider-man. Plus, Spider-man created Venom.

Carnage: Pure Villain. Kills lives. Everyone lives. Darker side to Venom but on a whole new level."
Sounds alot like a few characters Marvel already has.
#30 Posted by The Hottness (4226 posts) - - Show Bio

Carnage is awesome

#31 Posted by Magicalmoment (1516 posts) - - Show Bio

i kinda like him

#32 Posted by RedGhostman (104 posts) - - Show Bio

I love the symbiote concept, it's just they haven't portrayed it to it's full potential, lately. 

#33 Posted by Sheep-Kill (617 posts) - - Show Bio
John Valentine said:
"Graft said:
"John Valentine said:
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What an undignified death.
"
LOL

There is a possible chance he could back, Was it ever determined whether Sentry killed the symbiote itself or Cletus Kasady?"

He flew Carnage up to space and I assume Kasady was with him."
It would be interesting is he wasn't in it.  Would make an awesome story for his own series.  Him traveling the world killing people but at the same time just losing his mind.  wearing the muscles and blood of his victims looking like Carnage.  then he can get killed and sent to Hell where he meets Blackheart.  The two then fight there way out of Hell and back on to earth.  It could end with Carnage and Blackheart trying to kill Dare Devil but fail.  Cletus then bums into the New Mr. Sinister and takes him to some hidden location.  It ends with the X-Men confronted by Cletus in his new Carnage form.



#34 Posted by Djinn (779 posts) - - Show Bio

well i personally like carnage better than venom, i guess its because he's crazy

#35 Posted by darth_fletcher (262 posts) - - Show Bio

i used to like carnage, maximum carnage was a great storyline but they've just ruined him since then and dont even get me started on cosmic carnage!!!

#36 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

carnage was cool in the 90's along with symbiotes and other stuff

#37 Posted by Toxin 45 (4 posts) - - Show Bio

but it is still a mystery about the death of carnage it is possible the aftermath of dark region that carnage might come back and along with mister sinister ,Sabretooth,abomination,and Thanos  feature apocalypse and onslaught also holocaust 

#38 Posted by Mutant X (1543 posts) - - Show Bio

I love Carnage man. He's always been my favorite villain

#39 Posted by Vance Astro (91697 posts) - - Show Bio
Anti-Venom's follower said:
"Citizen Vance said:
"Carnage sucks.That whole insanity thing..over done.How many insane villains can we have? How many symbiotes can we have? The whole symbiote thing is so boring now.What is the point of bringing him back? So Spider-Man can own him again? So he can fight Venom.I'd rather that not happen.Thing is..I know Carnage will be back,because all of Spider-Man's villains are coming back.Some of them needed to and I didn't mind but Carnage should stay dead.There is nothing cool about the character what so ever."
do you have a problem with carnage or crazy villians Vance?"
I have a problem with symbiotes.
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#40 Posted by King Saturn (226101 posts) - - Show Bio
Carnage is Okay...
#41 Posted by Erik (33327 posts) - - Show Bio

Venom, Anti-Venom, Toxin, Carnage, and that group of symbiotes from a long time ago. BAH! Too many. I think Venom and Anti-Venom are more than enough. Carnage is also boring.

#42 Posted by Mutant X (1543 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok, here's my outlook on the symbiotes.

- Symbiotes were cool at first, but Marvel ruined them.
- Venom, Carnage, and Toxin were the only symbiotes that were cool. [Toxin only because he was a good guy, so it was a change of pace.]
- Eddie Brock was THE BEST Venom.
- Carnage rocks.

#43 Posted by Mutant X (1543 posts) - - Show Bio

#44 Posted by SUNMAN (7313 posts) - - Show Bio
darth_fletcher said:
"i used to like carnage, maximum carnage was a great storyline but they've just ruined him since then and dont even get me started on cosmic carnage!!!"
I agree. I still like him, but they need to get back to his roots.
#45 Posted by Mutant X (1543 posts) - - Show Bio
SUNMAN said:
"they need to get back to his roots."

exactly.
#46 Posted by Vance Astro (91697 posts) - - Show Bio
Mutant X said:
"Ok, here's my outlook on the symbiotes.

- Symbiotes were cool at first, but Marvel ruined them.
- Venom, Carnage, and Toxin were the only symbiotes that were cool. [Toxin only because he was a good guy, so it was a change of pace.]
- Eddie Brock was THE BEST Venom.
- Carnage rocks.
"
Marvel didn't ruin anything.Symbiotes aren't cool anymore because they just aren't.They are new anymore.They aren't fresh.They were cool when we didn't know alot about them and when the villains they made were major.Now that Brock got owned,Gargan is a screw up,and Carnage got ripped in half...who cares?
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#47 Edited by Mutant X (1543 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Mutant X said:
"Ok, here's my outlook on the symbiotes.

- Symbiotes were cool at first, but Marvel ruined them.
- Venom, Carnage, and Toxin were the only symbiotes that were cool. [Toxin only because he was a good guy, so it was a change of pace.]
- Eddie Brock was THE BEST Venom.
- Carnage rocks.
"
Marvel didn't ruin anything.Symbiotes aren't cool anymore because they just aren't.They are new anymore.They aren't fresh.They were cool when we didn't know alot about them and when the villains they made were major.Now that Brock got owned,Gargan is a screw up,and Carnage got ripped in half...who cares?
"
Yeah I said that they were cool at first. Something ruined them. Marvel let us know too much about them and got too much into the whole symbiote thing. That's why theyre not cool anymore.

[[and yes, Gargan is a screw up]]

#48 Posted by Vance Astro (91697 posts) - - Show Bio
Mutant X said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Mutant X said:
"Ok, here's my outlook on the symbiotes.

- Symbiotes were cool at first, but Marvel ruined them.
- Venom, Carnage, and Toxin were the only symbiotes that were cool. [Toxin only because he was a good guy, so it was a change of pace.]
- Eddie Brock was THE BEST Venom.
- Carnage rocks.
"
Marvel didn't ruin anything.Symbiotes aren't cool anymore because they just aren't.They are new anymore.They aren't fresh.They were cool when we didn't know alot about them and when the villains they made were major.Now that Brock got owned,Gargan is a screw up,and Carnage got ripped in half...who cares?
"
Yeah I said that they were cool at first. Something ruined them. Marvel let us know too much about them and got too much into the whole symbiote thing. That's why theyre not cool anymore.

[[and yes, Gargan is a screw up]]
Marvel had no choice..how long do you think an Alien costume was going to last? You can only go but so far with the idea.The fact there is still any around is a miracle.
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#49 Posted by Mutant X (1543 posts) - - Show Bio

They could've lasted longer than they did. I'm just saying I liked the idea of a bunch of alien goop turning someone into a freaky looking monster and giving him extraordinary powers. Marvel could have let it stay a little bit of a mystery. Instead, they decided to have a whole planet of them and have 8738946598639428 symbiotes.

#50 Posted by MrMiracle77 (1659 posts) - - Show Bio

Carnage was a bit of fresh air at the time.  Consider what was going on with Spidey when Carnage showed up: a pair of robots were pretending to be his parents.  I remember reading those comics and thinking to myself, "sweet jeebus, does this kid have anyone else in his life he can lose?  Oh?  Is that Carnage?  Thank god, we can get back to some superheroics!"

But looking back, Carnage was more than a little derivative.  He was the villainous progeny of a character who was himself the anti-hero progeny of Spiderman.

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