What is up with the new Captain Cold

#1 Posted by BloodTalon (440 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate the new look. Now that that is out of the way dose he now have ice powers instead of ice tech?

I was going to pick up this flash story but like I said I hate the new look so is the story good if so I might get the trade.

#2 Posted by Icarusflies (12512 posts) - - Show Bio

@BloodTalon: Yep, he has ice powers.

The story isn't all that good…the art is gorgeous, but the story is just fairly maddening to Flash/Rogues fans.

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#3 Posted by Deranged Midget (17962 posts) - - Show Bio

@Icarusflies said:

@BloodTalon: Yep, he has ice powers.

The story isn't all that good…the art is gorgeous, but the story is just fairly maddening to Flash/Rogues fans.

His new look isn't terrible but yes, art is an absolute gem to look at, while there is quite of bit of diservice to fans.

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#4 Posted by BloodTalon (440 posts) - - Show Bio

@Icarusflies: thank you, you just saved me some money

I do like the idea of ice powers though.

#5 Posted by BloodTalon (440 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget: this stinks I was hoping that people were going to say that is was good and I could over look the bad art design of one favorite villains but both of the replies have said otherwise oh well

thanks for the opinions.

#6 Posted by Izaiah (5245 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Cold's classic look was terrible. This one, at least, is decent.

#7 Posted by Deranged Midget (17962 posts) - - Show Bio

@Izaiah: Agreed, I like his new look as well, but his old one wasn't exactly "terrible"

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#8 Posted by Izaiah (5245 posts) - - Show Bio
@Deranged Midget: Hmm, yeah, I suppose the old one might have been more mediocre rather than outright terrible...
#9 Posted by Deranged Midget (17962 posts) - - Show Bio

@Izaiah: I'd like to think more along the lines of "outdated"

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#10 Posted by BloodTalon (440 posts) - - Show Bio

@Izaiah: now I am not saying that his old look did not need any changes it was in no way perfect but I liked it way more than this new one that I can only describe as a pile.

but to each there own.

#11 Posted by BiteMe-Fanboy (8086 posts) - - Show Bio

Classic look is so much better. But I do sort of like his new ice powers... But I will def. miss the gun.

#12 Posted by Billy Batson (58295 posts) - - Show Bio

People complaining about his old look. There was a reason for him to look that way.
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#13 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (12582 posts) - - Show Bio

I like this new look....and like the fact he has powers now. The ice gun was such a disadvantage

#14 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Izaiah said:

Captain Cold's classic look was terrible. This one, at least, is decent.
#15 Posted by Sinestro2828 (1523 posts) - - Show Bio

@ArturoCalaKayVee said:

I like this new look....and like the fact he has powers now. The ice gun was such a disadvantage

I kinda have to agree there, I mean, now that he literally has ice powers instead of having to rely on a gun that can be taken away from him, this kinda evens the odds between him and the Flash. I've always thought of Captain Cold as sort of a "poor man's Mr. Freeze," but now he can actually be a force to be reckoned with. Has it been stated whether he's a Metahuman now or if he used some new tech to gain ice powers?

#16 Posted by Sinestro2828 (1523 posts) - - Show Bio

@Icarusflies: I'll admit I'm not a big expert on the Flash mythos and that much of the New 52 universe has been VERY hit and miss with me, mostly miss to be honest XD. However, why exactly do Flash fans not like the new story? I mean, now that Captain Cold has literal ice powers, doesn't that make him a MUCH bigger threat to the Flash? Basically make him a more worthy adversary? I mean, I kinda always thought of Captain Cold as a poor man's Mr. Freeze, take away his gun and he's harmless, but now he's alot trickier to deal with right? Or was there something else about the new Cold that people don't like?

#17 Posted by AskaniSon295 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Grifter and the Rogues should team-up the have similar philosiphies

#18 Posted by Degalon (739 posts) - - Show Bio

@BloodTalon:

I don't mind the new look (it's just his regular, minus sleeves). Its the fact that he's a meta now that bugs me. Before, he was a blue collar criminal with a freeze gun. Now, he's just another Iceman knockoff.

#19 Posted by Degalon (739 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sinestro2828:

Its the principle of the matter. It wasn't the fact that he had a freeze gun that made him dangerous, it was that he was so down to earth. Turning him into a metahuman just makes him come across as (yet another) Poor Man's Iceman. Before, he was Captain Cold, with his iconic Cold Gun. It'd be like...taking away Batman's utility belt and giving him the ability to spontaneously generate all his tools on his own, like a green lantern ring or something. It's just not what the character is about.

#20 Posted by Sinestro2828 (1523 posts) - - Show Bio

@Degalon said:

@Sinestro2828:

Its the principle of the matter. It wasn't the fact that he had a freeze gun that made him dangerous, it was that he was so down to earth. Turning him into a metahuman just makes him come across as (yet another) Poor Man's Iceman. Before, he was Captain Cold, with his iconic Cold Gun. It'd be like...taking away Batman's utility belt and giving him the ability to spontaneously generate all his tools on his own, like a green lantern ring or something. It's just not what the character is about.

Okay, I guess I get it now, god knows I HATE how so many of my favorite characters have been altered so utterly that I can't even recognize them anymore...namely the now remorseful Blackfire & a Starfire who actually holds grudges against the entirety of her own species for the actions of ONE person, and pretty much everyone who was ever involved in the Teen Titans universe...including the now missing Wally West, my fave Flash, & Donna Troy.

But yeah, if people loved Cold for being human rather than superhuman I can understand why giving him actual frost powers would be upsetting.

#21 Posted by mrtrickster (2297 posts) - - Show Bio

I completely agree with op, What was so interesting about Captain Cold was being normal human but with incredible tech against the flash
now it's just lame

#22 Posted by Degalon (739 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sinestro2828:

Its especially annoying how...much like Zoom didn't actually have speed powers (He had time altering powers that let him emulate superspeed), Captain Cold didn't actually have frost powers with his gun. His gun actually slowed things down, the ice was a side effect. So now making Ice the primary power and slowing things down into the side effect just seems really off.

#23 Posted by tensor (5081 posts) - - Show Bio

I Like it ,because flash for me has so much power, but the villains if not for zoom an mirror master was rather poor.

#24 Posted by jointron33 (1813 posts) - - Show Bio

I have no clue how fans are complaining. Basically, you were prefer his and Rogues' shtick to be that of moronic jokes who get taken out easier than common thugs and honestly aren't much different?

#25 Posted by SadiaVicious (136 posts) - - Show Bio

@jointron33 said:

I have no clue how fans are complaining. Basically, you were prefer his and Rogues' shtick to be that of moronic jokes who get taken out easier than common thugs and honestly aren't much different?

I don't understand it too, he's much more awesome now.

#26 Posted by TeamUnitedNerds (402 posts) - - Show Bio

Ugh, I loved how Flash's villains were all tech-based. It gave him something really unique.

#27 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13618 posts) - - Show Bio

@izaiah said:

Captain Cold's classic look was terrible. This one, at least, is decent.

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@degalon said:

@BloodTalon:

I don't mind the new look (it's just his regular, minus sleeves). Its the fact that he's a meta now that bugs me. Before, he was a blue collar criminal with a freeze gun. Now, he's just another Iceman knockoff.

he cant be a blue collar criminal with powers?

#28 Edited by Degalon (739 posts) - - Show Bio

@avenging_x_bolt:

Just like how Batman can't have powers. It just defeats the purpose of the character.

The whole appeal of the Rogues is that they are just blue collar criminals with tech, yet they manage to be huge threats, even to The Flash. Turning their tech abilities into innate powers just..trivializes the characters.

#29 Edited by Avenging-X-Bolt (13618 posts) - - Show Bio

@degalon said:

@avenging_x_bolt:

Just like how Batman can't have powers. It just defeats the purpose of the character.

The whole appeal of the Rogues is that they are just blue collar criminals with tech, yet they manage to be huge threats, even to The Flash. Turning their tech abilities into innate powers just..trivializes the characters.

but how would having advanced tech make them any less of a threat then guys with powers.......

#30 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (13618 posts) - - Show Bio

@degalon said:

@avenging_x_bolt:

Just like how Batman can't have powers. It just defeats the purpose of the character.

The whole appeal of the Rogues is that they are just blue collar criminals with tech, yet they manage to be huge threats, even to The Flash. Turning their tech abilities into innate powers just..trivializes the characters.

but how would having advanced tech make them any less of a threat then guys with powers.......

never mind. i see what you're saying.

#31 Edited by handsome_stud (272 posts) - - Show Bio

I like his old parka and dork look. Made him different. Now he looks like a typical bad guy.

#32 Edited by ZombieMowlcher (689 posts) - - Show Bio

@handsome_stud: The parka was one of my favorite things about him, and the gun was so badass.

#33 Edited by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2273 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the new Captain Cold with powers over the old one.

#34 Posted by RulerOfThisUniverse (6366 posts) - - Show Bio

I love that design. The old one was silly and outdated.

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#35 Edited by ShadowSwordmaster (16360 posts) - - Show Bio
#36 Posted by The_Tree (7932 posts) - - Show Bio

The old one was so much better. I like my comics with a bit of fun and whimsy.

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#37 Posted by TDK_1997 (15059 posts) - - Show Bio

His look is actually pretty cool but I prefered him before when he had no ice powers.

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