The Bendis Theory (Love or Hate Him?)

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#101 Posted by cody1984 (1279 posts) - - Show Bio

@Trodorne said:

Well it seems to me that people in general dislike much of the marvel stories or directions from late 2008 - current. So maybe its not just the writers but the entire company itself. has anyone thought of that?

I'd wager the vast majority haven't.

#102 Posted by RainEffect (3240 posts) - - Show Bio

I desire to bump this for teh lulz. I want to see more Bendis rage.

#103 Posted by RainEffect (3240 posts) - - Show Bio

Incidentally, I purchased Spider-Woman: Agent of SWORD a few weeks ago and it has easily registered as one of my absolute favorite hard-cover stories I own. I am really starting to believe the law of the ComicVine community:
 
Bendis has the capacity to write great solo titles, but his team titles horribly deface characters.

#104 Posted by DP812 (91 posts) - - Show Bio

Here's my mixed opinion on Bendis. I was first exposed to him with Ultimate Spider-Man #1 and I loved it. I read his Daredevil run and I loved it. I read some of his non-Marvel work like Jinx, Fire, Powers and thought they were great.

Then he took over Ultimate X-Men and I was excited. But it was very lackluster. So I wasn't as psyched when he took over Avengers but I gave it a shot. And Disassembled was terrible. I decided to give him another chance with New Avengers. And it was similarly terrible. Tried Mighty Avengers, also terrible. Secret Invasion, Dark Avengers, Siege -- terrible, terrible, terrible. The Luthorization of Norman Osborn felt extremely forced and ridiculous. I felt with New Avengers, Bendis was neglecting Avengers history in favor of his pet characters like Spider-Man, Wolverine, Luke Cage and Spider-Woman.

When the Heroic Age came around, Bendis seemed to be on a good start from the initial news. The team looked like it would be Cap (Bucky), Thor, Iron Man, Spider-Woman, and Hawkeye. That looked good, a bunch of classic Avengers with a new addition, who was Avengers material. And I was looking forward to the news that the initial story would feature Kang.

Then I read it. Kang was treated like crap and once more, Wolverine and Spider-Man were on the team. The treatment of Wonder Man was just as bad as the treatment of Scarlet Witch. I really get the feeling from Bendis that he has never been a fan of the Avengers, despite his statements. It feels like he's got a very specific group of characters he likes and any characters who fall outside that category are treated as losers undeserving of respectful treatment.

I think Bendis does great work when he sticks with characters he knows and with a genre he knows. Street-level, crime fiction, that's great. If Bendis wrote a Heroes For Hire title starring Luke Cage and Iron Fist, I would enthusiastically buy it every month. But team books? Especially large-scale team books? No, not good at all. In those instances, his normally-punchy dialogue seems forced and generic. He can't handle epic storylines, it just doesn't work.

#105 Posted by WarMachineMarkV (1214 posts) - - Show Bio

@SC said:

Bendis is great at capturing the illusion of tightness and bonds with characters. Thats Mamet speak for you. "Mamet speak?" Yeah that's what I, "what you said?" What? "What you said" Oh... Yes? "Yes what?" I think, casual fans, really like this sort of banter and character exchange. Humanizes the characters. You can sort of believe they are down to earth, grounded characters, well... the characters he wants portrayed this way. Other characters provide contrasts, to sort of drive home the point with others, and so this means they can become simplified caricatures of themselves. Ares, Sentry, Moonstone, pretty cool, well fleshed out, intricate characters, because just... a bit heavy handed and one dimensional. One gets cartoon crazy, one becomes horny and loud and the other gets horny and yup. Bendis is willing to openly ignore continuity for a small joke that may miss its mark (or it might hit, milage may vary) (Bucky killing Hitler for example) Still, Bendis knows that fans respond to certain things and they do, so he gives them what they want, and a writer like Slott gives fans stuff and what do fans do? Well, they don't respond as strongly. My wish? Is that Bendis was like, a fan of continuity, characterization, and consistency to things that came before him, whilst adding on his own strengths. I neither hate or love him.

- I think you hit the nail on the head pretty well

- All the highlights of his run were some very good conversations and interactions between characters

- The problem is if you take a couple of steps back and look at the big picture of the storyline, it is so riddled with holes your almost shocked it got past the editors

#106 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@cody1984 said:

@iLLituracy said:

At least 80% of the people hating on Bendis in this thread will go out and buy his comics next Wednesday.

Exactly! Their are way to many hypocrite comic book fans.

I don't think this makes them hypocrites. Bendis is writing too much for someone to be a fan and read Marvel comics an avoid his books at the same time. Almost all the important events in the Marvel Universe happen in the books he's writing.
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#107 Posted by Superguy0009e (2265 posts) - - Show Bio

he's a good writer when he can do what he wants without affecting a main universe (best example, Ultimate Spiderman)

however, he constantly makes stuff up for an issue so it can work (best example, Avengers Disassembled)

some people are forgiving when he does that, some dont care

i honestly dont care, as long as it doesnt affect the universe too much (like with Bucky killing Hitler)

#108 Posted by cody1984 (1279 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@cody1984 said:

@iLLituracy said:

At least 80% of the people hating on Bendis in this thread will go out and buy his comics next Wednesday.

Exactly! Their are way to many hypocrite comic book fans.

I don't think this makes them hypocrites. Bendis is writing too much for someone to be a fan and read Marvel comics an avoid his books at the same time. Almost all the important events in the Marvel Universe happen in the books he's writing.

Personally I have no problem with Bendis like others do but then again I don't usually read the comics he writes. So I don't get how people can hate his work and still buy it since I'll drop a comic if I don't like the writer or where the series is heading. The argument about staying up to date with events in the marvel universe really doesn't have any weight for me since you can always just wait to the events are over and pick up the series again. I mean if you are actually dreading reading comics he writes why in the hell would you pay for them since its bringing you no enjoyment? You can always get a subscription to marvel's digital service to catch up on past events if they mean so much without having to pay for a few issues written by a writer you don't like.

#109 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@cody1984 said:

@Vance Astro said:

@cody1984 said:

@iLLituracy said:

At least 80% of the people hating on Bendis in this thread will go out and buy his comics next Wednesday.

Exactly! Their are way to many hypocrite comic book fans.

I don't think this makes them hypocrites. Bendis is writing too much for someone to be a fan and read Marvel comics an avoid his books at the same time. Almost all the important events in the Marvel Universe happen in the books he's writing.

Personally I have no problem with Bendis like others do but then again I don't usually read the comics he writes. So I don't get how people can hate his work and still buy it since I'll drop a comic if I don't like the writer or where the series is heading. The argument about staying up to date with events in the marvel universe really doesn't have any weight for me since you can always just wait to the events are over and pick up the series again. I mean if you are actually dreading reading comics he writes why in the hell would you pay for them since its bringing you no enjoyment? You can always get a subscription to marvel's digital service to catch up on past events if they mean so much without having to pay for a few issues written by a writer you don't like.

Why else would people buy something they continuously say they hate?
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#110 Posted by cody1984 (1279 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@cody1984 said:

@Vance Astro said:

@cody1984 said:

@iLLituracy said:

At least 80% of the people hating on Bendis in this thread will go out and buy his comics next Wednesday.

Exactly! Their are way to many hypocrite comic book fans.

I don't think this makes them hypocrites. Bendis is writing too much for someone to be a fan and read Marvel comics an avoid his books at the same time. Almost all the important events in the Marvel Universe happen in the books he's writing.

Personally I have no problem with Bendis like others do but then again I don't usually read the comics he writes. So I don't get how people can hate his work and still buy it since I'll drop a comic if I don't like the writer or where the series is heading. The argument about staying up to date with events in the marvel universe really doesn't have any weight for me since you can always just wait to the events are over and pick up the series again. I mean if you are actually dreading reading comics he writes why in the hell would you pay for them since its bringing you no enjoyment? You can always get a subscription to marvel's digital service to catch up on past events if they mean so much without having to pay for a few issues written by a writer you don't like.

Why else would people buy something they continuously say they hate?

You can buy the comics he writes but if your doing it solely for staying on top of events happening in the marvel universe and constantly whine about those events and the writer than that does make those individuals hypocrites.

#111 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@cody1984 said:

You can buy the comics he writes but if your doing it solely for staying on top of events happening in the marvel universe and constantly whine about those events and the writer than that does make those individuals hypocrites.

It really doesn't.Buying the book has nothing to do with the writer.
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#112 Posted by The Stegman (25054 posts) - - Show Bio

you know what? i like Bendis AND Geoff, that's right, i frackin' said it

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#113 Posted by cody1984 (1279 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@cody1984 said:

You can buy the comics he writes but if your doing it solely for staying on top of events happening in the marvel universe and constantly whine about those events and the writer than that does make those individuals hypocrites.

It really doesn't.Buying the book has nothing to do with the writer.

If you can't stand the writer and hate the stories it does. You might love the character but if you hate what is being done to that character why would you continue buying a comic that you believe is going in the wrong direction then? All you are doing is financially supporting a comic that you think is terrible and giving credibility to the writer you don't like. So I don't get people whining about Bendis yet going out and buying the comics he writes every single month, since they are being hypocrites complaining about the writer yet supporting him at the same time.

#114 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@cody1984 said:

If you can't stand the writer and hate the stories it does. You might love the character but if you hate what is being done to that character why would you continue buying a comic that you believe is going in the wrong direction then? All you are doing is financially supporting a comic that you think is terrible and giving credibility to the writer you don't like. So I don't get people whining about Bendis yet going out and buying the comics he writes every single month, since they are being hypocrites complaining about the writer yet supporting him at the same time.

It doesn't. People are obviously not buying the books because of Bendis..but for other reasons. They are indirectly supporting Bendis.
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#115 Posted by RainEffect (3240 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Stegman said:
you know what? i like Bendis AND Geoff, that's right, i frackin' said it
GTFO!!!!
 
It is all said with love, of course. xD
#116 Edited by cody1984 (1279 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@cody1984 said:

If you can't stand the writer and hate the stories it does. You might love the character but if you hate what is being done to that character why would you continue buying a comic that you believe is going in the wrong direction then? All you are doing is financially supporting a comic that you think is terrible and giving credibility to the writer you don't like. So I don't get people whining about Bendis yet going out and buying the comics he writes every single month, since they are being hypocrites complaining about the writer yet supporting him at the same time.

It doesn't. People are obviously not buying the books because of Bendis..but for other reasons. They are indirectly supporting Bendis.

They continuously buy a product he writes and are supporting him that way giving a signal to marvel that Bendis is their top writer so Bendis gets more work for marvel and stays on a series longer which the people who complain about him hate. Even though they are to blame for this since they are supporting what they view as a problem thus making them hypocrites for doing so. If they people stopped buying the books Bendis writes marvel would change writers on these series since they obviously don't want these titles to be dropped completely. Yet people keep buying comics he writes then whine about him all the while supporting him which is rather dumb since if you aren't enjoying something why waste your money on something you don't enjoy? The whole thing just doesn't make logical sense.

#117 Posted by The Stegman (25054 posts) - - Show Bio
@RainEffect:  
 
 

@The Stegman  said: 

you know what? i like Bendis AND Geoff, that's right, i frackin' said it
GTFO!!!! 
 
It is all said with love, of course. xD
 
 
oh..i...i see how it is...s-s'ok..i'll just..be over here.... 
 
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#118 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (5787 posts) - - Show Bio

@cody1984: Preach!!

#119 Posted by BlackArmor (6141 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@RainEffect said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
Bendis should be imprisoned for life for committing Crimes Against Humanity. He is a War Criminal in the War Against Terrible Comics.
LOL. That is shortened to - CAHHIAWCITWATC. Yep, that should totally be legit. Hah! I've noticed your Bendis hate on previous topics, so I'd love to hear what causes such utter hatred. What character did he destroy that made you hate him?
I'll just repost my infamous Siege rant;

First of all, let’s examine the lead up to Siege; Asgardian is attacked, stuff gets blown up, Norman Osborn wages war on Asgard. Let’s just take a moment to think about this. Norman Osborn, without the expressed permission of the President (I’ll explain why this is apparent later), declares war on a nation that hovers over US soil. Does no one else think this screams “BAD IDEA”!? And it’s not like you’re attacking Greenland here, this is Asgard, home of the gods. Gods. Plural. Osborn has been planning this with the curiously absent Cabal. Where the hell was Doom when all this was going on?
“Huh, Asgard’s going to be destroyed, is there a chance anything interesting could be happening over there? It’s not like MY CONCURRENT STORYLINE HAS ME RESEARCHING ASGARDIAN PHYSIOLOGY” By definition, War implies casualties on both sides, otherwise it’s just an extermination. Ergo, dead Asgardians. So Norman and his team of Avengers decide to attack Asgard with HAMMER agents. Please keep in mind said agents are probably just regular enlisted men with homes and families, that becomes important later on.

So, now that all this is going on, the Marvel Heroes decide that enough is enough. Norman Osborn has gone too far, as opposed to everything else he’s done this year which was just shy of “too far”. Suddenly Ares realises that the known psychopath and supervillain who threw an innocent young woman off a bridge and has secret meetings with Dictators and mobsters may in fact not be all that trustworthy, so he decides to rebel against the Dark Avengers. He is then promptly slaughtered by the Sentry.
“Surely you mean the Void who has incapicated the Sentry?” Nope, I mean the Sentry. Bob Reynolds. He just killed Ares. Why? Don’t think about that, you idiot, Bendis sure didn’t. So now the Sentry, the Saint of the Marvel Universe, is a complete and utter nutbar. And by nutbar, I don’t mean mentally unstable, which is how he was written, I mean he has the maturity level of an eight year old and listens to a KNOWN PSYCHOPATH AND SUPERVILLAIN WHO THREW AN INNOCENT YOUNG WOMAN OFF A BRIDGE. But hey, it’s not like that young girl was the Sentry’s friend’s girlfriend. Oh wait. It was. But just remember, as far as Bendis is concerned, this all makes sense.

So anyway, the Marvel heroes show up and there’s a bunch of fighting, I don’t really remember the specifics of said fight, as it was incredibly dull and forgettable. Anyway, Spidey punches Norman Osborn inside his Iron Patriot armor and the helmet flies off leaving Norman looking all green and sick. I think this was supposed to imply that the Goblin had taken over, but mostly it just looked like he vomited on himself inside his helmet. Anyway, Steve Rogers and the Marvel Heroes declare that Osborn is under arrest. Yep, because apparently they have the right to arrest people now. Why did they not do this beforehand? Like when Osborn was trying to steal a Cosmic Cube? Um, shut up, that’s why. So Norman Osborn is being arrested for… Wait, why’s he being arrested? This whole War seems to be sanctioned by the US Government. Wait? It’s not!? THEN WHY THE HELL WERE THE DARK AVENGERS AND THE HAMMER AGENTS FOLLOWING OSBORN!? When your boss says jump, and the Government says stand ****ing still or we’ll put you in prison, you stand ****ing still.

Anyway, Norman goes ape**** at the concept of losing his position of power, so he tells the Sentry; greatest hero in the Marvel Universe, to trash Asgard. Why? Just coz. So then Bob does it, and boom! We are now staring at some kind of crab thing that looks like it was taken straight from a porn anime. So, what the hell is that thing? The Void? Huh? Since when did the Void look like that? Oh, it does now. Ok, that makes sense.

I have already described why Dark Avengers#15 and Siege #3 were terrible in depth in a blog, but I’ll paste it here anyway.

I enjoyed Bendis’ original run with the character back in New Avengers, and whilst it was nowhere near the quality of the Jenkins’ story, it was still thoroughly enjoyable. Then, came Dark Reign. Norman Osborn succeeds in manipulating the Sentry, Robert Reynolds and the Void; why is he able to do this? No idea. There is no explanation given. In Dark Avengers #5, Norman tells Robert “there is no Void”, and then asks for the Void’s help next issue. I know that Bendis is trying to illustrate just how evil Osborn is, but it comes off more as an insult to the intelligence of the reader. We know Osborn is evil. We know he is an insane, cruel and manipulative expletive. Gwen told us that 30 years ago.

So, in order to tell us what we already know, Bendis spends the first 6 issues of Dark Avengers showcasing the Sentry as something of almost Spectre-level power, and all the while having him being controlled by Norman Osborn. Again, the question is why? Why would the Sentry follow Osborn? The Sentry is a universal force for good, his best friend is Reed Richards. He is a mentor to Spider-Man and a friend to the Hulk. For whatever reason, he forsakes these prior relationships (relationships he was willing to sacrifice his memory and legacy for), so he can work for Osborn. Again, the question is why?

Nevertheless, I have a large amount of patience for comic books, even books with overwhelmingly large plotholes; and Mike Deodato Jr is one of my favourite artists, so I continued to look forward to Dark Avengers each issue.

Then, the Molecule Man Arc. I don’t even need to explain what was wrong with this. How exactly does drinking a freaking serum give you molecular control of the environment around you? Answer, it doesn’t. The serum accelerated and temporally displaced Robert’s molecules, it did not give him a metaphysical reality alteration ability. Still, it could be worse? We all know that the Sentry is going to return to his status as a true hero at some point, atone for his sins, and all will be well.

Dark Avengers #13 and #14 threw in some garbage about the connection between the Sentry and the Angel of Death of the Passover. So, that’s a nice slap to Jews and Christians everywhere (of which I am one) by suggesting their faith is actually just a physical manifestation of a schitzophrenic’s “dark” side.

Still, I continued to persevere with the series, just waiting for Bob to shed this dominated weakling persona he gained for some bizarre unknowable reason; then Siege #3. In Dark Avengers #15, Bullseye kills the Sentry’s wife. Sentry becomes the void (of-bloody-course) and yells for a few pages. Then Osborn just tells him to chill….And he does. The most powerful human being on the planet is told by a world-renowned psycho (Bullseye) that his wife committed suicide. And he believes him. Now, on top of that being ludicrous in of itself, I’m reasonably certain that the Sentry has telepathy. Which, for some ungodly reason, he decides never to use when HE IS LIVING WITH A BUNCH OF CRIMINALS AND SADISTS.

So, we’ve established that DA #15 frustrated me, but I still didn’t hate the issue that much. Bullseye’s interaction with Lindy was hauntingly wonderful to read. And then I read Siege #3. What the hell was that? The Sentry destroys Asgard on Osborn’s order, because Osborn has just had the holy hell beaten out of him by the good guys (took long enough), in an entirely unsatisfying manner. This is all after Thor and Sentry have had a mini-throwdown with Thor having a look of “holy $#%@” on his face the entire time. So, Sentry destroys Asgard and Norman starts whining about how he was the only one who could keep “him” in check. The heroes all stand around like a pack of morons, after all, it’s not like a floating city just got destroyed or anything, and then we see what Osborn was alluding to; the Sentry in fully voided-out-mode looking maniacal and menacing.

And so the real villain of Siege was the Sentry, the greatest hero of the Marvel Universe (according to Jenkins’ original series, we all know Spidey is really the greatest in the MU). A truly incorruptible and selfless being is now the Big Bad. Everything that made the Sentry a joy to read, his fragility, his honor, his courage, his strength and his willingness to do what is right no matter what, is completely gone. This character, who I so loved for being psychologically scarred, has become just another nutcase. Bendis took a character with a severe mental illness that was treated with the utmost respect and understanding, and turned him into just another evil dude.

The characterisation isn’t what has annoyed me, nor the plot holes. It’s the complete disregard that the writing has held for such an awful illness. The moral of the Sentry is no longer “overcoming adversity with faith and selfless action”, but rather “if you have a mental illness, you’re going to turn into a grotesque, psychotic demon”.

End original blog.

So we’ve just finished Siege #3, and it turns out the Sentry is the villain. I’m sorry, the Void, because in Bendisland, they occupy the same body. So there’s a big fight scene with the Marvel Heroes and the Void. The Void decides not to use its immense telepathic power, because that would be logical, and instead chooses to attack everyone, not killing any of them, mind you, with his super powerful tentacles of death. Then Loki does something with the Norn Stones and dies after what is actually a pretty solid examination of his character. Oh that’s right, that happened in Thor, not Siege. Oh well. So yeah, Loki’s dead, and despite causing all of this FOR TEH LULZ, we’re supposed to feel really bad about it. But enough of that crap, the Void isn’t done hitting everyone with non-lethal attacks. Except Loki, he got the lethal attack. Then a helicarrier crashes into the Void and this reverts it back to Bob, coz it works that way (no it doesn’t).

So Bob begs Thor to kill him in a truly noble showing of self-sacrifice. Thor says “**** you, you mentally ill person, I want to watch you suffer”. Ok, that wasn’t verbatim, but that was the gist. Suddenly Bob turns into the Void again! OMG, I TOTALLY DIDN’T SEE THAT COMING! Oh wait, I have an IQ above 14, yes I did. So then Thor decides that he’s really mad at the Void for killing his brother, and wants to destroy it. Even though he just said he didn’t want to do that four seconds ago. Then he hits the Void, the being of infinite power that was capable of reforming itself after Molecule Man literally tore it apart on a Molecular level, with a hammer and a lightning bolt. Well, that’s just going to tick the Void off, why would you do that?

Oh no. Wait. He’s dead. Well he’s gonna come back; that was the whole point of Dark Avengers, wasn’t it? Showing that Bob couldn’t die!

Oh no, wait. He’s really dead. Huh?

So yeah, Bob’s dead and the Marvel Heroes are all standing around wondering what the hell they were doing involved in a war that was handled by about five of them. Then the remaining HAMMER agents and the Dark Avengers are arrested… Wait, why are they being arrested? One assumes that they were unaware that Osborn was acting outside of the US Government’s orders, meaning they were manipulated and believed they were doing the right thing. So they’re being arrested because their boss was a psycho? That seems fair. And those HAMMER soldiers, yeah, they wont be able to go home and sing happy birthday to their kids, because apparently, they did the wrong thing by following the orders of their superiors. Those bastards.

So Steve is promoted to Head of SHIELD due to his immense amount of experience in the field of running large scale organisations. What’s that? He has no experience? Shut up, this is a happy ending!

Siege was promoted as being the culmination of eight years worth of Marvel events. Civil War, Secret Invasion, Dark Reign. Captain America revolted against the Government, friends became enemies, enemies became a badass bounty hunting team written by Warren Ellis, Iron Man became a tyrant who apparently embezzled billions of dollars of Government funds, Spider-Man’s family was shot due to the inability of the Pro-Reg forces to live up to their word, etc…

But that’s ok, because none of that matters! We’re all friends again! Why are we friends again? Because that’s what Bendis wants! Hooray!

Basically, Siege was terrible. Don’t read it.

Greatest Rant Ever

#120 Edited by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio

@RainEffect said:

Incidentally, I purchased Spider-Woman: Agent of SWORD a few weeks ago and it has easily registered as one of my absolute favorite hard-cover stories I own. I am really starting to believe the law of the ComicVine community: Bendis has the capacity to write great solo titles (EXCEPT MOON KNIGHT, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, KEEP HIM AWAY FROM MOON KNIGHT), but his team titles horribly deface characters.

The law has been amended. =P

Oh, wait... *reads through earlier page of thread*

@RainEffect said:

I'm enjoying his Moon Knight run!

...

You're dead to me.

#121 Posted by Hatutzeraze (269 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:


Bendis is writing too much for someone to be a fan and read Marvel comics an avoid his books at the same time. Almost all the important events in the Marvel Universe happen in the books he's writing.

I feel like I have managed it reasonably well for the last 7 years or so. I've continued to be a Marvel fan while refusing to buy or read any of Bendis' comics.

I just kept reading the comics I liked, and when they crossed over with Bendis events, I just read the synopsis at the front of the comic I was reading. You'd be surprised how easy it is to get the gist of these events without having to wade through the schlock of Bendis' writing. I made it through all of Civil War, Secret Invasion, and Siege without having to once spend a dime or even a micro-second of my life on Bendis.

#122 Posted by tiger26 (129 posts) - - Show Bio

I seen no problem with the guy he the reason i got back into comics yea he can be eh time from time but hey whos perfect

#123 Posted by OmegaHans (209 posts) - - Show Bio

Him and Joe Q sure know how to screw up once great comic relationships that's for sure.

#124 Posted by RainEffect (3240 posts) - - Show Bio
@InnerVenom123 said:

@RainEffect said:

Incidentally, I purchased Spider-Woman: Agent of SWORD a few weeks ago and it has easily registered as one of my absolute favorite hard-cover stories I own. I am really starting to believe the law of the ComicVine community: Bendis has the capacity to write great solo titles (EXCEPT MOON KNIGHT, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, KEEP HIM AWAY FROM MOON KNIGHT), but his team titles horribly deface characters.

The law has been amended. =P

Oh, wait... *reads through earlier page of thread*

@RainEffect said:

I'm enjoying his Moon Knight run!

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You're dead to me.

I can't believe I even said that.
#125 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@RainEffect said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
Bendis should be imprisoned for life for committing Crimes Against Humanity. He is a War Criminal in the War Against Terrible Comics.
LOL. That is shortened to - CAHHIAWCITWATC. Yep, that should totally be legit. Hah! I've noticed your Bendis hate on previous topics, so I'd love to hear what causes such utter hatred. What character did he destroy that made you hate him?
I'll just repost my infamous Siege rant;

First of all, let’s examine the lead up to Siege; Asgardian is attacked, stuff gets blown up, Norman Osborn wages war on Asgard. Let’s just take a moment to think about this. Norman Osborn, without the expressed permission of the President (I’ll explain why this is apparent later), declares war on a nation that hovers over US soil. Does no one else think this screams “BAD IDEA”!? And it’s not like you’re attacking Greenland here, this is Asgard, home of the gods. Gods. Plural. Osborn has been planning this with the curiously absent Cabal. Where the hell was Doom when all this was going on?
“Huh, Asgard’s going to be destroyed, is there a chance anything interesting could be happening over there? It’s not like MY CONCURRENT STORYLINE HAS ME RESEARCHING ASGARDIAN PHYSIOLOGY” By definition, War implies casualties on both sides, otherwise it’s just an extermination. Ergo, dead Asgardians. So Norman and his team of Avengers decide to attack Asgard with HAMMER agents. Please keep in mind said agents are probably just regular enlisted men with homes and families, that becomes important later on.

So, now that all this is going on, the Marvel Heroes decide that enough is enough. Norman Osborn has gone too far, as opposed to everything else he’s done this year which was just shy of “too far”. Suddenly Ares realises that the known psychopath and supervillain who threw an innocent young woman off a bridge and has secret meetings with Dictators and mobsters may in fact not be all that trustworthy, so he decides to rebel against the Dark Avengers. He is then promptly slaughtered by the Sentry.
“Surely you mean the Void who has incapicated the Sentry?” Nope, I mean the Sentry. Bob Reynolds. He just killed Ares. Why? Don’t think about that, you idiot, Bendis sure didn’t. So now the Sentry, the Saint of the Marvel Universe, is a complete and utter nutbar. And by nutbar, I don’t mean mentally unstable, which is how he was written, I mean he has the maturity level of an eight year old and listens to a KNOWN PSYCHOPATH AND SUPERVILLAIN WHO THREW AN INNOCENT YOUNG WOMAN OFF A BRIDGE. But hey, it’s not like that young girl was the Sentry’s friend’s girlfriend. Oh wait. It was. But just remember, as far as Bendis is concerned, this all makes sense.

So anyway, the Marvel heroes show up and there’s a bunch of fighting, I don’t really remember the specifics of said fight, as it was incredibly dull and forgettable. Anyway, Spidey punches Norman Osborn inside his Iron Patriot armor and the helmet flies off leaving Norman looking all green and sick. I think this was supposed to imply that the Goblin had taken over, but mostly it just looked like he vomited on himself inside his helmet. Anyway, Steve Rogers and the Marvel Heroes declare that Osborn is under arrest. Yep, because apparently they have the right to arrest people now. Why did they not do this beforehand? Like when Osborn was trying to steal a Cosmic Cube? Um, shut up, that’s why. So Norman Osborn is being arrested for… Wait, why’s he being arrested? This whole War seems to be sanctioned by the US Government. Wait? It’s not!? THEN WHY THE HELL WERE THE DARK AVENGERS AND THE HAMMER AGENTS FOLLOWING OSBORN!? When your boss says jump, and the Government says stand ****ing still or we’ll put you in prison, you stand ****ing still.

Anyway, Norman goes ape**** at the concept of losing his position of power, so he tells the Sentry; greatest hero in the Marvel Universe, to trash Asgard. Why? Just coz. So then Bob does it, and boom! We are now staring at some kind of crab thing that looks like it was taken straight from a porn anime. So, what the hell is that thing? The Void? Huh? Since when did the Void look like that? Oh, it does now. Ok, that makes sense.

I have already described why Dark Avengers#15 and Siege #3 were terrible in depth in a blog, but I’ll paste it here anyway.

I enjoyed Bendis’ original run with the character back in New Avengers, and whilst it was nowhere near the quality of the Jenkins’ story, it was still thoroughly enjoyable. Then, came Dark Reign. Norman Osborn succeeds in manipulating the Sentry, Robert Reynolds and the Void; why is he able to do this? No idea. There is no explanation given. In Dark Avengers #5, Norman tells Robert “there is no Void”, and then asks for the Void’s help next issue. I know that Bendis is trying to illustrate just how evil Osborn is, but it comes off more as an insult to the intelligence of the reader. We know Osborn is evil. We know he is an insane, cruel and manipulative expletive. Gwen told us that 30 years ago.

So, in order to tell us what we already know, Bendis spends the first 6 issues of Dark Avengers showcasing the Sentry as something of almost Spectre-level power, and all the while having him being controlled by Norman Osborn. Again, the question is why? Why would the Sentry follow Osborn? The Sentry is a universal force for good, his best friend is Reed Richards. He is a mentor to Spider-Man and a friend to the Hulk. For whatever reason, he forsakes these prior relationships (relationships he was willing to sacrifice his memory and legacy for), so he can work for Osborn. Again, the question is why?

Nevertheless, I have a large amount of patience for comic books, even books with overwhelmingly large plotholes; and Mike Deodato Jr is one of my favourite artists, so I continued to look forward to Dark Avengers each issue.

Then, the Molecule Man Arc. I don’t even need to explain what was wrong with this. How exactly does drinking a freaking serum give you molecular control of the environment around you? Answer, it doesn’t. The serum accelerated and temporally displaced Robert’s molecules, it did not give him a metaphysical reality alteration ability. Still, it could be worse? We all know that the Sentry is going to return to his status as a true hero at some point, atone for his sins, and all will be well.

Dark Avengers #13 and #14 threw in some garbage about the connection between the Sentry and the Angel of Death of the Passover. So, that’s a nice slap to Jews and Christians everywhere (of which I am one) by suggesting their faith is actually just a physical manifestation of a schitzophrenic’s “dark” side.

Still, I continued to persevere with the series, just waiting for Bob to shed this dominated weakling persona he gained for some bizarre unknowable reason; then Siege #3. In Dark Avengers #15, Bullseye kills the Sentry’s wife. Sentry becomes the void (of-bloody-course) and yells for a few pages. Then Osborn just tells him to chill….And he does. The most powerful human being on the planet is told by a world-renowned psycho (Bullseye) that his wife committed suicide. And he believes him. Now, on top of that being ludicrous in of itself, I’m reasonably certain that the Sentry has telepathy. Which, for some ungodly reason, he decides never to use when HE IS LIVING WITH A BUNCH OF CRIMINALS AND SADISTS.

So, we’ve established that DA #15 frustrated me, but I still didn’t hate the issue that much. Bullseye’s interaction with Lindy was hauntingly wonderful to read. And then I read Siege #3. What the hell was that? The Sentry destroys Asgard on Osborn’s order, because Osborn has just had the holy hell beaten out of him by the good guys (took long enough), in an entirely unsatisfying manner. This is all after Thor and Sentry have had a mini-throwdown with Thor having a look of “holy $#%@” on his face the entire time. So, Sentry destroys Asgard and Norman starts whining about how he was the only one who could keep “him” in check. The heroes all stand around like a pack of morons, after all, it’s not like a floating city just got destroyed or anything, and then we see what Osborn was alluding to; the Sentry in fully voided-out-mode looking maniacal and menacing.

And so the real villain of Siege was the Sentry, the greatest hero of the Marvel Universe (according to Jenkins’ original series, we all know Spidey is really the greatest in the MU). A truly incorruptible and selfless being is now the Big Bad. Everything that made the Sentry a joy to read, his fragility, his honor, his courage, his strength and his willingness to do what is right no matter what, is completely gone. This character, who I so loved for being psychologically scarred, has become just another nutcase. Bendis took a character with a severe mental illness that was treated with the utmost respect and understanding, and turned him into just another evil dude.

The characterisation isn’t what has annoyed me, nor the plot holes. It’s the complete disregard that the writing has held for such an awful illness. The moral of the Sentry is no longer “overcoming adversity with faith and selfless action”, but rather “if you have a mental illness, you’re going to turn into a grotesque, psychotic demon”.

End original blog.

So we’ve just finished Siege #3, and it turns out the Sentry is the villain. I’m sorry, the Void, because in Bendisland, they occupy the same body. So there’s a big fight scene with the Marvel Heroes and the Void. The Void decides not to use its immense telepathic power, because that would be logical, and instead chooses to attack everyone, not killing any of them, mind you, with his super powerful tentacles of death. Then Loki does something with the Norn Stones and dies after what is actually a pretty solid examination of his character. Oh that’s right, that happened in Thor, not Siege. Oh well. So yeah, Loki’s dead, and despite causing all of this FOR TEH LULZ, we’re supposed to feel really bad about it. But enough of that crap, the Void isn’t done hitting everyone with non-lethal attacks. Except Loki, he got the lethal attack. Then a helicarrier crashes into the Void and this reverts it back to Bob, coz it works that way (no it doesn’t).

So Bob begs Thor to kill him in a truly noble showing of self-sacrifice. Thor says “**** you, you mentally ill person, I want to watch you suffer”. Ok, that wasn’t verbatim, but that was the gist. Suddenly Bob turns into the Void again! OMG, I TOTALLY DIDN’T SEE THAT COMING! Oh wait, I have an IQ above 14, yes I did. So then Thor decides that he’s really mad at the Void for killing his brother, and wants to destroy it. Even though he just said he didn’t want to do that four seconds ago. Then he hits the Void, the being of infinite power that was capable of reforming itself after Molecule Man literally tore it apart on a Molecular level, with a hammer and a lightning bolt. Well, that’s just going to tick the Void off, why would you do that?

Oh no. Wait. He’s dead. Well he’s gonna come back; that was the whole point of Dark Avengers, wasn’t it? Showing that Bob couldn’t die!

Oh no, wait. He’s really dead. Huh?

So yeah, Bob’s dead and the Marvel Heroes are all standing around wondering what the hell they were doing involved in a war that was handled by about five of them. Then the remaining HAMMER agents and the Dark Avengers are arrested… Wait, why are they being arrested? One assumes that they were unaware that Osborn was acting outside of the US Government’s orders, meaning they were manipulated and believed they were doing the right thing. So they’re being arrested because their boss was a psycho? That seems fair. And those HAMMER soldiers, yeah, they wont be able to go home and sing happy birthday to their kids, because apparently, they did the wrong thing by following the orders of their superiors. Those bastards.

So Steve is promoted to Head of SHIELD due to his immense amount of experience in the field of running large scale organisations. What’s that? He has no experience? Shut up, this is a happy ending!

Siege was promoted as being the culmination of eight years worth of Marvel events. Civil War, Secret Invasion, Dark Reign. Captain America revolted against the Government, friends became enemies, enemies became a badass bounty hunting team written by Warren Ellis, Iron Man became a tyrant who apparently embezzled billions of dollars of Government funds, Spider-Man’s family was shot due to the inability of the Pro-Reg forces to live up to their word, etc…

But that’s ok, because none of that matters! We’re all friends again! Why are we friends again? Because that’s what Bendis wants! Hooray!

Basically, Siege was terrible. Don’t read it.

you deserve a medal for this. i mean it, if a had a golden medal right now i'd send it to you.

#126 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

It's love and hate. Love him writing single characters and I hate him opn teams

#127 Posted by Madame_Mist (1325 posts) - - Show Bio

He has moments of pure gold, other times it's average.

Love for me.

#128 Posted by broo1232 (1520 posts) - - Show Bio

Bendis is a good and bad writer. His Avengers stuff isn't great but come on his Daredevil and Ultimate Spider-man where (and still are with Ultimate Spider-man epic!) He's just not great on team books.

#129 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

What's he working on after Marvel NOW?

Just so I know to stay away.

#130 Posted by Billy Batson (58152 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

What's he working on after Marvel NOW?

Just so I know to stay away.

All New X-Men and possibly more x-books.
BB

#131 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@Billy Batson said:

@Gambit1024 said:

What's he working on after Marvel NOW?

Just so I know to stay away.

All New X-Men and possibly more x-books.
BB

Good enough. Wasn't that into X-Men anyway.

#132 Posted by KingAweSam (18 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@RainEffect said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
Bendis should be imprisoned for life for committing Crimes Against Humanity. He is a War Criminal in the War Against Terrible Comics.
LOL. That is shortened to - CAHHIAWCITWATC. Yep, that should totally be legit. Hah! I've noticed your Bendis hate on previous topics, so I'd love to hear what causes such utter hatred. What character did he destroy that made you hate him?
I'll just repost my infamous Siege rant;

First of all, let’s examine the lead up to Siege; Asgardian is attacked, stuff gets blown up, Norman Osborn wages war on Asgard. Let’s just take a moment to think about this. Norman Osborn, without the expressed permission of the President (I’ll explain why this is apparent later), declares war on a nation that hovers over US soil. Does no one else think this screams “BAD IDEA”!? And it’s not like you’re attacking Greenland here, this is Asgard, home of the gods. Gods. Plural. Osborn has been planning this with the curiously absent Cabal. Where the hell was Doom when all this was going on?
“Huh, Asgard’s going to be destroyed, is there a chance anything interesting could be happening over there? It’s not like MY CONCURRENT STORYLINE HAS ME RESEARCHING ASGARDIAN PHYSIOLOGY” By definition, War implies casualties on both sides, otherwise it’s just an extermination. Ergo, dead Asgardians. So Norman and his team of Avengers decide to attack Asgard with HAMMER agents. Please keep in mind said agents are probably just regular enlisted men with homes and families, that becomes important later on.

So, now that all this is going on, the Marvel Heroes decide that enough is enough. Norman Osborn has gone too far, as opposed to everything else he’s done this year which was just shy of “too far”. Suddenly Ares realises that the known psychopath and supervillain who threw an innocent young woman off a bridge and has secret meetings with Dictators and mobsters may in fact not be all that trustworthy, so he decides to rebel against the Dark Avengers. He is then promptly slaughtered by the Sentry.
“Surely you mean the Void who has incapicated the Sentry?” Nope, I mean the Sentry. Bob Reynolds. He just killed Ares. Why? Don’t think about that, you idiot, Bendis sure didn’t. So now the Sentry, the Saint of the Marvel Universe, is a complete and utter nutbar. And by nutbar, I don’t mean mentally unstable, which is how he was written, I mean he has the maturity level of an eight year old and listens to a KNOWN PSYCHOPATH AND SUPERVILLAIN WHO THREW AN INNOCENT YOUNG WOMAN OFF A BRIDGE. But hey, it’s not like that young girl was the Sentry’s friend’s girlfriend. Oh wait. It was. But just remember, as far as Bendis is concerned, this all makes sense.

So anyway, the Marvel heroes show up and there’s a bunch of fighting, I don’t really remember the specifics of said fight, as it was incredibly dull and forgettable. Anyway, Spidey punches Norman Osborn inside his Iron Patriot armor and the helmet flies off leaving Norman looking all green and sick. I think this was supposed to imply that the Goblin had taken over, but mostly it just looked like he vomited on himself inside his helmet. Anyway, Steve Rogers and the Marvel Heroes declare that Osborn is under arrest. Yep, because apparently they have the right to arrest people now. Why did they not do this beforehand? Like when Osborn was trying to steal a Cosmic Cube? Um, shut up, that’s why. So Norman Osborn is being arrested for… Wait, why’s he being arrested? This whole War seems to be sanctioned by the US Government. Wait? It’s not!? THEN WHY THE HELL WERE THE DARK AVENGERS AND THE HAMMER AGENTS FOLLOWING OSBORN!? When your boss says jump, and the Government says stand ****ing still or we’ll put you in prison, you stand ****ing still.

Anyway, Norman goes ape**** at the concept of losing his position of power, so he tells the Sentry; greatest hero in the Marvel Universe, to trash Asgard. Why? Just coz. So then Bob does it, and boom! We are now staring at some kind of crab thing that looks like it was taken straight from a porn anime. So, what the hell is that thing? The Void? Huh? Since when did the Void look like that? Oh, it does now. Ok, that makes sense.

I have already described why Dark Avengers#15 and Siege #3 were terrible in depth in a blog, but I’ll paste it here anyway.

I enjoyed Bendis’ original run with the character back in New Avengers, and whilst it was nowhere near the quality of the Jenkins’ story, it was still thoroughly enjoyable. Then, came Dark Reign. Norman Osborn succeeds in manipulating the Sentry, Robert Reynolds and the Void; why is he able to do this? No idea. There is no explanation given. In Dark Avengers #5, Norman tells Robert “there is no Void”, and then asks for the Void’s help next issue. I know that Bendis is trying to illustrate just how evil Osborn is, but it comes off more as an insult to the intelligence of the reader. We know Osborn is evil. We know he is an insane, cruel and manipulative expletive. Gwen told us that 30 years ago.

So, in order to tell us what we already know, Bendis spends the first 6 issues of Dark Avengers showcasing the Sentry as something of almost Spectre-level power, and all the while having him being controlled by Norman Osborn. Again, the question is why? Why would the Sentry follow Osborn? The Sentry is a universal force for good, his best friend is Reed Richards. He is a mentor to Spider-Man and a friend to the Hulk. For whatever reason, he forsakes these prior relationships (relationships he was willing to sacrifice his memory and legacy for), so he can work for Osborn. Again, the question is why?

Nevertheless, I have a large amount of patience for comic books, even books with overwhelmingly large plotholes; and Mike Deodato Jr is one of my favourite artists, so I continued to look forward to Dark Avengers each issue.

Then, the Molecule Man Arc. I don’t even need to explain what was wrong with this. How exactly does drinking a freaking serum give you molecular control of the environment around you? Answer, it doesn’t. The serum accelerated and temporally displaced Robert’s molecules, it did not give him a metaphysical reality alteration ability. Still, it could be worse? We all know that the Sentry is going to return to his status as a true hero at some point, atone for his sins, and all will be well.

Dark Avengers #13 and #14 threw in some garbage about the connection between the Sentry and the Angel of Death of the Passover. So, that’s a nice slap to Jews and Christians everywhere (of which I am one) by suggesting their faith is actually just a physical manifestation of a schitzophrenic’s “dark” side.

Still, I continued to persevere with the series, just waiting for Bob to shed this dominated weakling persona he gained for some bizarre unknowable reason; then Siege #3. In Dark Avengers #15, Bullseye kills the Sentry’s wife. Sentry becomes the void (of-bloody-course) and yells for a few pages. Then Osborn just tells him to chill….And he does. The most powerful human being on the planet is told by a world-renowned psycho (Bullseye) that his wife committed suicide. And he believes him. Now, on top of that being ludicrous in of itself, I’m reasonably certain that the Sentry has telepathy. Which, for some ungodly reason, he decides never to use when HE IS LIVING WITH A BUNCH OF CRIMINALS AND SADISTS.

So, we’ve established that DA #15 frustrated me, but I still didn’t hate the issue that much. Bullseye’s interaction with Lindy was hauntingly wonderful to read. And then I read Siege #3. What the hell was that? The Sentry destroys Asgard on Osborn’s order, because Osborn has just had the holy hell beaten out of him by the good guys (took long enough), in an entirely unsatisfying manner. This is all after Thor and Sentry have had a mini-throwdown with Thor having a look of “holy $#%@” on his face the entire time. So, Sentry destroys Asgard and Norman starts whining about how he was the only one who could keep “him” in check. The heroes all stand around like a pack of morons, after all, it’s not like a floating city just got destroyed or anything, and then we see what Osborn was alluding to; the Sentry in fully voided-out-mode looking maniacal and menacing.

And so the real villain of Siege was the Sentry, the greatest hero of the Marvel Universe (according to Jenkins’ original series, we all know Spidey is really the greatest in the MU). A truly incorruptible and selfless being is now the Big Bad. Everything that made the Sentry a joy to read, his fragility, his honor, his courage, his strength and his willingness to do what is right no matter what, is completely gone. This character, who I so loved for being psychologically scarred, has become just another nutcase. Bendis took a character with a severe mental illness that was treated with the utmost respect and understanding, and turned him into just another evil dude.

The characterisation isn’t what has annoyed me, nor the plot holes. It’s the complete disregard that the writing has held for such an awful illness. The moral of the Sentry is no longer “overcoming adversity with faith and selfless action”, but rather “if you have a mental illness, you’re going to turn into a grotesque, psychotic demon”.

End original blog.

So we’ve just finished Siege #3, and it turns out the Sentry is the villain. I’m sorry, the Void, because in Bendisland, they occupy the same body. So there’s a big fight scene with the Marvel Heroes and the Void. The Void decides not to use its immense telepathic power, because that would be logical, and instead chooses to attack everyone, not killing any of them, mind you, with his super powerful tentacles of death. Then Loki does something with the Norn Stones and dies after what is actually a pretty solid examination of his character. Oh that’s right, that happened in Thor, not Siege. Oh well. So yeah, Loki’s dead, and despite causing all of this FOR TEH LULZ, we’re supposed to feel really bad about it. But enough of that crap, the Void isn’t done hitting everyone with non-lethal attacks. Except Loki, he got the lethal attack. Then a helicarrier crashes into the Void and this reverts it back to Bob, coz it works that way (no it doesn’t).

So Bob begs Thor to kill him in a truly noble showing of self-sacrifice. Thor says “**** you, you mentally ill person, I want to watch you suffer”. Ok, that wasn’t verbatim, but that was the gist. Suddenly Bob turns into the Void again! OMG, I TOTALLY DIDN’T SEE THAT COMING! Oh wait, I have an IQ above 14, yes I did. So then Thor decides that he’s really mad at the Void for killing his brother, and wants to destroy it. Even though he just said he didn’t want to do that four seconds ago. Then he hits the Void, the being of infinite power that was capable of reforming itself after Molecule Man literally tore it apart on a Molecular level, with a hammer and a lightning bolt. Well, that’s just going to tick the Void off, why would you do that?

Oh no. Wait. He’s dead. Well he’s gonna come back; that was the whole point of Dark Avengers, wasn’t it? Showing that Bob couldn’t die!

Oh no, wait. He’s really dead. Huh?

So yeah, Bob’s dead and the Marvel Heroes are all standing around wondering what the hell they were doing involved in a war that was handled by about five of them. Then the remaining HAMMER agents and the Dark Avengers are arrested… Wait, why are they being arrested? One assumes that they were unaware that Osborn was acting outside of the US Government’s orders, meaning they were manipulated and believed they were doing the right thing. So they’re being arrested because their boss was a psycho? That seems fair. And those HAMMER soldiers, yeah, they wont be able to go home and sing happy birthday to their kids, because apparently, they did the wrong thing by following the orders of their superiors. Those bastards.

So Steve is promoted to Head of SHIELD due to his immense amount of experience in the field of running large scale organisations. What’s that? He has no experience? Shut up, this is a happy ending!

Siege was promoted as being the culmination of eight years worth of Marvel events. Civil War, Secret Invasion, Dark Reign. Captain America revolted against the Government, friends became enemies, enemies became a badass bounty hunting team written by Warren Ellis, Iron Man became a tyrant who apparently embezzled billions of dollars of Government funds, Spider-Man’s family was shot due to the inability of the Pro-Reg forces to live up to their word, etc…

But that’s ok, because none of that matters! We’re all friends again! Why are we friends again? Because that’s what Bendis wants! Hooray!

Basically, Siege was terrible. Don’t read it.

It's a year old, but I read the entire thing from top to bottom. Bravo.

#133 Posted by TDK_1997 (14985 posts) - - Show Bio

He's early years were the best but his team books and his current stuff sucks.

#134 Posted by Brazen_Intellect (1144 posts) - - Show Bio

To me there are two kinds of his work:

1 - Creator owned and not part of an established, shared universe

2 - Marvel work and part of an established, shared universe

Bendis cut his teeth in the industry on the creator owned stuff that brought him his many fans in the industry (Powers, Torso, etc) and with good reason, they were good and played to his strengths. He is big on dialogue and characterization and tends to gloss over on the rest. As these titles have no established continuity he is free to make it up as he goes and not worry about it flying in the face of prior stories.

His work since coming to Marvel and having to deal with an established continuity and shared universe has been nowhere near as good with his earlier work. I can understand that after having the total freedom that comes from your own title it can be constraining, but if your not willing to put in the research necessary to take over an established property, don't do it.

Bendis (like many former independent writers) seems to think that his idea is more important than everything that came before, and that he can pick and choose to follow it only when it suits him. You cannot expect to make wholesale changes to long time characters out of the blue and not expect flak from long time readers.

He is a good writer, but he is working on material that requires he change his style to take into account the prior work, and is so far completely unwilling or able to adjust for it.

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