BOOM BOOM: The Coolest Mutant to Never Be Famous

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Posted by HexThis (892 posts) - - Show Bio

 


 
Teenage runaway, former klepto, abused child, total misfit, sassy sidekick, armed at all times with explosives. How on earth was this not a recipe for success? One of my absolute, all time favorite mutants ever Tabitha Smith has been virtually forgotten by Marvel which is not only a crying shame, it's a cry, sobbing, agonizing shame. Were it not for X-men: Evolution and my penchant for reading comicbook character bios, I would not know nearly enough about Tabitha because for the last 10 years her character has been drastically watered down and near-forgotten give or take a few horrible characterizations in recent storylines. When I first saw Tabby in X-men: Evolution, her juvenile nature and sass was more than endearing, it was downright entertaining! For a kid's show to have a character who crosses the line from aspiring superhero to spitfire villain then back to aspiring hero was awesomer than awesome, she was a rich character in a franchise meant to be inoffensive and totally PC yet still she was a total rebel if I ever knew one.
 
 Now that I've gotten my hands on almost every issue she's ever been in, I am absolutely baffled as to why Marvel dismissed her character. She initially started off as being a
 Tabitha attempting suicide as a troubled kid
runaway who catches the attention of the Beyonder during the Secret Wars arc. Beaten and bruised from her abusive father, Tabby was on the lam and crossed paths with the Beyonder who at the time was fresh off the heels of an unrequited love for the Dazzler. As the two reminisce, Tabitha explains that she was a complete and total misfit back in her hometown where most of her friends were junkies and juveniles and especially for that time where the teenaged sidekicks in almost any comic were polished and squeaky clean, Tabby had a cynicism paired with an unlikely charm and optimism that felt so much more well-realized than most portrayals of teenage girls in comics at the time. From there she's taken in by the founding X-men who, at the time, called themselves "X-Factor" just after she (along with a bevy of other criminal, superpowered misfits) joined a crew of thieves led by Vanisher.  She betrayed Vanisher and sold him out to X-factor then is again whisked away by Ariel (a friend of Tabby's and former cohort of Vanisher's) for another adventure under the "Fallen Angels" title. From then on, she was paired up with some fairly high-profile mutants ranging from Jaimie Madrox to Rictor and eventually Cable where she found a chance at redemption serving him in X-force.
 
Yes, once upon a time there was an X-force without Scott or Wolverine and it was awesome. Tabby's close-knit bond with Rictor and Shatterstar as well her romance with Sam
 Manipulated and betrayed by Sabertooth
Gurthie built a great dynamic for the team. Where Cable and Domino were doom & gloom with packs of ammo & loaded holsters, Tabby was deadly in her own right and had even developed her explosive powers to a point where she could channel them through a sword thanks to the tutelage of Pete Wisdom. Still maintaining her trademark sass and general unpredictability, Tabby went from Boom-Boom to Boomer to Timebomb in a whole series of escapades involving her troubled past as a junkie on the streets, an unhealthy relationship with an almost brain-dead Victor Creed (who secretly manipulated her), and a dissent into absolute recklessness in panicked response to uninterrupted trauma. You thought X-force now had wild cards? Well Tabby could go toe-to-toe with any of them- at one point she sits on Blob's head, loads him up with explosives, and almost allows him to combust! Something we discover she had done before on the streets to a pimp who cornered her with a knife.  
 
Tabitha was like a wild hybrid of Harley Quinn and Gambit with an edge and a style all her own, though she had childlike tendencies similar to Jubilee there was a vulnerability to her that so beautifully complimented it all- she wasn't ever portrayed as being stupid at that point but more impulsive and mercurial at that point. Where little girl sidekicks were once well-meaning and mostly defined by the head-honcho they were following, Tabitha had an assertiveness that lit up so many possibilities for her character. Of course, I wouldn't be writing this were that still the case. 
 
A series called "Nextwave" came out in 2006 after the original X-fore had been canceled. This series featured Tabitha, along with a bevy of C-list heroes ranging from Monica Rambeau to the Machine Man where absolutely all of Tabitha's pathos was nixed and she was reduced to being a valley girl of absolutely zero intellect. Now I'm not saying valley girls in general are of low-intelligence seeing as how I consider Clueless one of the best movies of all time but it was actually incorporated into the plot that she was mindless at one point. She also speaks of partying with Paris Hilton while shopping which, though her fondness for retail indulgences had been explored before, was largely exaggerated. I don't blame writer Warren Ellis for this transition as it was all meant to be non-canonical but since the series received critical acclaim, Joe Quesada in all his editorial glory arbitrarily shifted it all within continuity and all the characters featured (including Tabby) have been largely affected as a result. 
 
Since then Tabitha Smith has been almost completely converted to what was intended to be a caricature of her character. She now dons a leather teddy with choker (which, NOBODY wears anymore) and has been swiftly demoted to D-list status, appearing only a handful of times in recent years. Once in a short Manifest Destiny storyline where the artist simply can't resist giving an upskirt perspective multiple times as she walks out in San Fransisco on a ridiculously breezy day only to be pummeled multiple times by a mutant named Nuwa whom she later defeats by contrasting Nuwa's sleep-inducing mutant abilities with a highly caffeinated latte. The art is atrocious and it's very odd and almost creepy how often we see her panties simultaneous to her humiliation. She's seen again as a captive of the Leper Queen who kidnapped her while she was shopping and just after yet another upskirt panel, is promptly shot through the head only to be saved by X-23 later on via a time machine. Of course, when Laura goes to save Tabitha she's subsequently almost raped and then depicted as being brazen and disagreeable when questioned about Leper Queen by X-force later on. Tabitha could also be seen later on in the Nation-X/X-factor crossover where she cavalierly refers to Shatterstar's last costume as being "totally gay" much to Rictor's dismay...now, Tabitha was one of the prime examples of people who knew Rictor & Shatterstar were an item in the X-force days, she's always maintained a close friendship with Rictor as well, and is known misfit...is it really likely that she'd say something like that? She can shoot her mouth off sometimes but she's never been offensive in a verging-on-homophobic way at all, she's always been really accepting of Rictor & Shatterstar. 
 
So, now, colored me confused. Because it's almost as though now Tabitha is unfavorably portrayed and robbed of all her pathos and character development, strengths and
 One of many upskirt appearances. *Eye roll*
survival instincts for no apparent reason other than editorial ignorance or complete disregard. Where she once was a rich, interesting, and much beloved character she now can be seen once or twice fighting in a cocktail dress with one or two lines here and there. I've never seen a character reach such high highs and have the carpet ripped out from underneath them in such a horrible way. Is the staff at Marvel just resentful of Tabby for never having been a sidekick of Wolverine's? I know it's protocol for mutant teenage girls but can't there be an exception? 
 
Anyways if anyone needs a comeback, aside from Jean Grey who's relentless dangled in our faces, it's my dear, dear, dear TABITHA SMITH. BOOM BOOM. BOOMER. TIMEBOMB.
#1 Posted by velle37 (6048 posts) - - Show Bio

Boom Boom has a very nice backside.........
#2 Posted by HexThis (892 posts) - - Show Bio

More like, "the pornstar land traced to draw Boom-Boom had a nice backside"

#3 Posted by velle37 (6048 posts) - - Show Bio
@HexThis said:
"More like, "the pornstar land traced to draw Boom-Boom had a nice backside" "

Either way....... 
 
It's much appreciated.....
#4 Posted by Jubilantlad (318 posts) - - Show Bio
@HexThis: Agreed, I love Tabitha but she hasn't gotten any decent attention lately.
#5 Posted by BoomBoom (93 posts) - - Show Bio

God I'm so glad I'm not the only Boom Boom lover around here, and she not even ever had any action figure apart from heroclix, which is a shame.

#6 Posted by queenfrost_ (2499 posts) - - Show Bio

Beats Dazzler anyday!

#7 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio

XEROX-KITTY APPROVES OF THIS THREAD!! :D

 

It's true.  While I enjoyed the Manifest Desinty story against Nuwa (and with some fun banter with Beast), in recent years she's been sidelined to terrible random cameo appearances, the worst being drawn by Greg 'I traced different parts of the body from different photographs that's why the proportions look hideously distorted' Land.   
 
We need more Boom-Boom!!

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#8 Posted by HexThis (892 posts) - - Show Bio
@BoomBoom: I know, I have the heroclix figure and it's by my bedside anyways though = )
#9 Posted by BoOMbOoMpOw (1711 posts) - - Show Bio

I like boom boom . She`s a cool character . I always loved her in the x-men evolution animated series .

#10 Posted by queenfrost_ (2499 posts) - - Show Bio

I wish she would be part of Storm's new team :(

#11 Posted by rogue_mar1e (19833 posts) - - Show Bio
@HexThis: agreed
stupid Marvel :T
#12 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio
@queenfrost_ said:
" I wish she would be part of Storm's new team :( "
The "team" that is based on one promo image... and features all flying characters?   
 
I'd rather see Boom Boom move back to New York and reclaim the Fallen Angels old base, the Beat St Club.  From there she can meet up with old friends, team up with new allies & wreak havoc old skool style.
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#13 Posted by HexThis (892 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty: I'm surprised Boom Boom hasn't been made more relevant after Second Coming actually because Cable, Ariel, and Vanisher were all people she was pretty closely associated with. I imagine she's probably pretty blue right now...
 
If anything, it would be a good review of her character for new fans and such.
#14 Posted by die_yng (15 posts) - - Show Bio


Okay, now I'm happy, there are still a few other Boom Boom fans around. 

I just can't get my head around the fact, that Karma, Magma and Cypher are in New Mutants, while Tabby (who has been on New Mutants and follow-up X.Force much longer, than the three) is not. 
Being both Sam and Bobby's former love interest, you could make great angst stories, when you think of the friction it might create with current relations.

 
She is such a great character and she's being totally wasted.

#15 Posted by PrinceIMC (5421 posts) - - Show Bio

Is there a rule that only actual original New Mutants can be in the New Mutants or something. Are people like Boom Boom and Warpath just sitting around Utopia while Sam and his older friends go on missions? If they don't put her in New Mutants I think she'd be great in X-Factor but not klepto pyromaniac Nextwave version of Tabitha. 
#16 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio
@PrinceIMC said:
" Is there a rule that only actual original New Mutants can be in the New Mutants or something. Are people like Boom Boom and Warpath just sitting around Utopia while Sam and his older friends go on missions? If they don't put her in New Mutants I think she'd be great in X-Factor but not klepto pyromaniac Nextwave version of Tabitha.  "
I think there is a rule about that ;)  It also excludes Rahne for spending too much time with X-Factor ;) 
 
Personally, I'm waiting for Louise Simonson to get cracking on X-Terminators Forever so we can have some classic Boom-Boom, Rictor, Rusty, Skids, Artie, Leech & Taki action ;)
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#17 Posted by PrinceIMC (5421 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty:
Agreed.
#18 Posted by HexThis (892 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty said:
" @PrinceIMC said:
" Is there a rule that only actual original New Mutants can be in the New Mutants or something. Are people like Boom Boom and Warpath just sitting around Utopia while Sam and his older friends go on missions? If they don't put her in New Mutants I think she'd be great in X-Factor but not klepto pyromaniac Nextwave version of Tabitha.  "
I think there is a rule about that ;)  It also excludes Rahne for spending too much time with X-Factor ;)  Personally, I'm waiting for Louise Simonson to get cracking on X-Terminators Forever so we can have some classic Boom-Boom, Rictor, Rusty, Skids, Artie, Leech & Taki action ;) "
X-terminators would be great. Marvel really needs to capitalize on the lesser known mutants, their storylines are simply better than any A-list title right now. I think it's because when you look at a book like Uncanny, you know Wolverine, Scott, and Emma are never in any actual danger, they're not going to die, they're not going to be too heavily defied by any of the other members of the team, and they'll always come out the heroes. With X-factor, Jaime Madrox is always getting his comeuppance, they have certain powerful members of the team like Monet or Strong Guy but everyone gets an opportunity to shine and save the day. 
 
I would love for Tabby to be on X-factor but it's pretty evident Peter David hates her and doesn't appear to know anything about her either, if she saw Rictor and Shatterstar coming along she'd totally jump in Rictor's arms first. Tabby loves Rictor, she always has, they're like brother and sister. I think she would be pretty awesome on New Mutants but I definitely feel like it's written from the perspective that the original New Mutants are the ONLY way to go. 
 
I think Tabby should join a misfit team. A trio. Her, Marrow, and Typhoid Mary, it could be like the Mystique series when Xavier enlists her to do dangerous covert missions away from the rest of the X-men. I mean, you know if she were on Uncanny or something like that they'd end up making her Wolverine's sidekick, coming between Kitty and Pitor, or getting killed in some stupid way.  
#19 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio
@HexThis said:
"I think Tabby should join a misfit team."
It's funny you say that, when Fallen Angels was originally advertised it was as 'The Misfits'.  I always thought that she could team up with her old Fallen Angels team-mates again in future.  I guess that's why so many people like the idea of her joining X-Factor (with Siryn/Banshee, Multiple Man, Rictor, Wolfsbane & Shatterstar on the roster who are all her old team-mates).   
 
But I'd also like to see her with lesser known characters.  I'd probably call them the Misfits instead.  No more being tied down to Utopia, have a teleporter on the team and they'd bounce around meeting & joining others, saving the day or accidentally wreaking havoc... and lots of explosions too ;)  That way you could cross over with any title you liked, have any cameo & team-up you want, and take on any villain in any location... Because as Misfits they don't 'fit' with anyone or anywhere else. </daydreaming>
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#20 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

As ADD as Tab is, it's a shame she hasn't found herself something to do, other than get kidnapped and nearly killed :(

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#21 Posted by Mercy_ (92676 posts) - - Show Bio
@pixelized said:
" As ADD as Tab is, it's a shame she hasn't found herself something to do, other than get kidnapped and nearly killed :( "
She helped kill one of the Predator X thingies.  
 

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#22 Posted by Son Of Storm (11262 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress
What is THAT?
#23 Posted by Mercy_ (92676 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son Of Storm said:
" @The Dark Huntress
What is THAT? "
:( My inbox doesn't like you anymore.  
 
That is Boom Boom helping to kill a Predator X. Uncanny 517.
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#24 Posted by Son Of Storm (11262 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @Son Of Storm said:
" @The Dark Huntress
What is THAT? "
:( My inbox doesn't like you anymore.  
 
That is Boom Boom helping to kill a Predator X. Uncanny 517. "
Why?
 
LAND... Of course. I should have known.
#25 Posted by Mercy_ (92676 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son Of Storm: I didn't get notified the first time you @replied me. Did for this one, though.  
 
Mmmhmmm. :(
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#26 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @pixelized said:
" As ADD as Tab is, it's a shame she hasn't found herself something to do, other than get kidnapped and nearly killed :( "
She helped kill one of the Predator X thingies.  
 

"
Yeah, I remember that disappointment
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#27 Posted by Son Of Storm (11262 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" @Son Of Storm: I didn't get notified the first time you @replied me. Did for this one, though.   Mmmhmmm. :( "
What a shame.....
#28 Posted by Mercy_ (92676 posts) - - Show Bio
@pixelized: Corny dialogue + porn tracing = -___-
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#29 Posted by HexThis (892 posts) - - Show Bio
@pixelized said:
" As ADD as Tab is, it's a shame she hasn't found herself something to do, other than get kidnapped and nearly killed :( "
What's so strange to me is that if you read Legacy it has Husk, Trance, Blindfold, Surge is in there for a second, Hellion, Dragoness, Rockslide...a TON of lesser known chracters Rogue's kind of mentoring and Tabby's never been in it once. Nor has she been at all involved with Jubilee's recent storyline although...I feel like I've just jinxed myself because I can imagine them having some like "totally hot" scream queen sequence where Jubilee sucks her blood but feels really bad about it or something stupid like that. 
#30 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio
@HexThis said:
" @pixelized said:
" As ADD as Tab is, it's a shame she hasn't found herself something to do, other than get kidnapped and nearly killed :( "
What's so strange to me is that if you read Legacy it has Husk, Trance, Blindfold, Surge is in there for a second, Hellion, Dragoness, Rockslide...a TON of lesser known chracters Rogue's kind of mentoring and Tabby's never been in it once. Nor has she been at all involved with Jubilee's recent storyline although...I feel like I've just jinxed myself because I can imagine them having some like "totally hot" scream queen sequence where Jubilee sucks her blood but feels really bad about it or something stupid like that.  "
Welp, long ago an interview was conducted where Mike Carey stated that Legacy would be home to lots of those "New X-Men" characters. I do think, since Tab was so young when she found herself wrapped up with the New Mutants, she should be around as a mentor or something... but then I think, "What kid would take advice from her?" and I go back to the drawing board. I'd say any appearance is better than nothing, but we saw what happened in Uncanny 5xx where she nuked a predator.... ehhh.
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#31 Posted by Mercy_ (92676 posts) - - Show Bio

517, IIRC

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#32 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio
@pixelized said:
" @HexThis said:
" @pixelized said:
" As ADD as Tab is, it's a shame she hasn't found herself something to do, other than get kidnapped and nearly killed :( "
What's so strange to me is that if you read Legacy it has Husk, Trance, Blindfold, Surge is in there for a second, Hellion, Dragoness, Rockslide...a TON of lesser known chracters Rogue's kind of mentoring and Tabby's never been in it once. Nor has she been at all involved with Jubilee's recent storyline although...I feel like I've just jinxed myself because I can imagine them having some like "totally hot" scream queen sequence where Jubilee sucks her blood but feels really bad about it or something stupid like that.  "
Welp, long ago an interview was conducted where Mike Carey stated that Legacy would be home to lots of those "New X-Men" characters. I do think, since Tab was so young when she found herself wrapped up with the New Mutants, she should be around as a mentor or something... but then I think, "What kid would take advice from her?" and I go back to the drawing board. I'd say any appearance is better than nothing, but we saw what happened in Uncanny 5xx where she nuked a predator.... ehhh. "
Yup:  X-Men Legacy's (Exciting) New Direction! (Yes, it's good) Boy it took me a good hour to find that thread...  To be honest, she doesn't need coaching on how to use her powers by Rogue.  She's too old to adopt a mentor like the other New X-Men kids.  She learned how to control her powers back when Sabretooth attacked her & Psylocke, instigating her 'Meltdown'.
 
I'd say in the last couple of years she's been resigned to just a bit-part cameo appearance girl.  Nothing too surprising considering the little amount of time that she was given during the first few years of Cable's X-Force.  The two 'NextWave' mini stories featuring her & Elsa were fun, but nothing more than 'girls hanging out & telling stories'. 

She's definitely the kind of character to have in a small team scenario.  Not enough to carry a solo book, but brash enough to cause trouble & passionate enough to fight for her friends.  But then again... there are so many mutants stuck in Utopia-Limbo that deserve more, just like her :(
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#33 Posted by HexThis (892 posts) - - Show Bio
@xerox-kitty said:
Yup:  X-Men Legacy's (Exciting) New Direction! (Yes, it's good) Boy it took me a good hour to find that thread...  To be honest, she doesn't need coaching on how to use her powers by Rogue.  She's too old to adopt a mentor like the other New X-Men kids.  She learned how to control her powers back when Sabretooth attacked her & Psylocke, instigating her 'Meltdown'. I'd say in the last couple of years she's been resigned to just a bit-part cameo appearance girl.  Nothing too surprising considering the little amount of time that she was given during the first few years of Cable's X-Force.  The two 'NextWave' mini stories featuring her & Elsa were fun, but nothing more than 'girls hanging out & telling stories'. She's definitely the kind of character to have in a small team scenario.  Not enough to carry a solo book, but brash enough to cause trouble & passionate enough to fight for her friends.  But then again... there are so many mutants stuck in Utopia-Limbo that deserve more, just like her :( "
I don't know that Tabitha needs coaching from Rogue but one thing that was never re-explored was that during her last X-force arc (a few years back) she channeled her powers through one of Shatterstar's swords and was able to obliterate an opponent from the inside out. This facet of her powers has never been picked up by a single writer since, however, Gambit could probably play a role in re-introducing it. That really is the only part of her power she hasn't mastered and I think the dynamic between Tabby and Remy would be interesting. They're both thieves, both definitely had unstable environments growing up, and both have occasionally gone to darker places as a result in addition to their powers being similar. It'd probably also give Remy something other to do than just being with Rogue or involved in her problems constantly. 
 
I wouldn't mind seeing her as a bit of wildcard on Legacy though, I feel like she and Rogue might actually relate to each other in a way that would nostalgic to a lot of Rogue fans. There was a time, afterall, when she had a bit more sass to her demeanor and I think with her downgrade in powers a lot of people miss that confidence and spunk. 
#34 Edited by die_yng (15 posts) - - Show Bio
@HexThis said:
" @xerox-kitty said:
" @PrinceIMC said:
" Is there a rule that only actual original New Mutants can be in the New Mutants or something. Are people like Boom Boom and Warpath just sitting around Utopia while Sam and his older friends go on missions? If they don't put her in New Mutants I think she'd be great in X-Factor but not klepto pyromaniac Nextwave version of Tabitha.  "
I think there is a rule about that ;)  It also excludes Rahne for spending too much time with X-Factor ;)  Personally, I'm waiting for Louise Simonson to get cracking on X-Terminators Forever so we can have some classic Boom-Boom, Rictor, Rusty, Skids, Artie, Leech & Taki action ;) "
X-terminators would be great. Marvel really needs to capitalize on the lesser known mutants, their storylines are simply better than any A-list title right now. I think it's because when you look at a book like Uncanny, you know Wolverine, Scott, and Emma are never in any actual danger, they're not going to die, they're not going to be too heavily defied by any of the other members of the team, and they'll always come out the heroes. With X-factor, Jaime Madrox is always getting his comeuppance, they have certain powerful members of the team like Monet or Strong Guy but everyone gets an opportunity to shine and save the day.   I would love for Tabby to be on X-factor but it's pretty evident Peter David hates her and doesn't appear to know anything about her either, if she saw Rictor and Shatterstar coming along she'd totally jump in Rictor's arms first. Tabby loves Rictor, she always has, they're like brother and sister. I think she would be pretty awesome on New Mutants but I definitely feel like it's written from the perspective that the original New Mutants are the ONLY way to go.   I think Tabby should join a misfit team. A trio. Her, Marrow, and Typhoid Mary, it could be like the Mystique series when Xavier enlists her to do dangerous covert missions away from the rest of the X-men. I mean, you know if she were on Uncanny or something like that they'd end up making her Wolverine's sidekick, coming between Kitty and Pitor, or getting killed in some stupid way.   "

This rule can't really exist,  seeing how both Amara and Cypher weren't New Mutants at the start. Just count the issues were they both appeared as New Mutants members, if I'm not totally wrong, they are less than Tabitha's. I mean only when they are really members, in case of Amara being a hellion doesn't count, as well as Doug's appearnces before he was recognized as a mutant and team member.
X-Factor is the other book I'd love to see her in, not only because half of the group consists of her former teammates, but also because PD does a great job with all this fringe characters. Okay, the appearance in the special was a bit strange, but with this alone, can you really be sure PD hates her? 
As far as Richtor is concerned, the connection between them hasn't been that strong for a long time, if you look at X-Force's later issues, she treats him none different to her other teammates. 
I think it is pretty strange  that we never even see anyone in the New Mutants squad or in X-Factor interact with either Tabitha or James Proudstar., it's like "yes, we've been teammates for so and so many years, but now I won't even talk to you:"  Today the Writers (or perhaps the editors) either only want to accept certain connections or they just don't want to respect continuity. 
Personally I never liked X-Terminators very much, except for Boom Boom and Rictor they were pretty dull characters. I agree that Uncanny wouldn't be the right place for her, but hey, if she actually started to play a bigger part in it, I wouldn't complain, unless they just want to kill her off.  
Has Boom Boom ever had any contact with either Typhoid Mary or Marrow? It would be a pretty strange team. Two psychos and a  nonstop talking valley girl (exaggerating her!!)? 
What would be the reaon fir such a team?

#35 Posted by die_yng (15 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess Rogue and Tabby together could work, but since Mike Carey has such a lot of characters to draw from, chances are pretty low, that this would actuallay happen.
Regarding her powers, pretty much all the development her powers made in X-Force has pretty much been ignored. But that's the case with a lot of others as well, Cannonball seems to have much less controll over his forcefield, and Sunspot only uses his Superstrength.
Pretty strange.    

#36 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio
@HexThis said:
"I don't know that Tabitha needs coaching from Rogue but one thing that was never re-explored was that during her last X-force arc (a few years back) she channeled her powers through one of Shatterstar's swords and was able to obliterate an opponent from the inside out. This facet of her powers has never been picked up by a single writer since, however, Gambit could probably play a role in re-introducing it. That really is the only part of her power she hasn't mastered and I think the dynamic between Tabby and Remy would be interesting. They're both thieves, both definitely had unstable environments growing up, and both have occasionally gone to darker places as a result in addition to their powers being similar. It'd probably also give Remy something other to do than just being with Rogue or involved in her problems constantly.   I wouldn't mind seeing her as a bit of wildcard on Legacy though, I feel like she and Rogue might actually relate to each other in a way that would nostalgic to a lot of Rogue fans. There was a time, afterall, when she had a bit more sass to her demeanor and I think with her downgrade in powers a lot of people miss that confidence and spunk.  "
I wasn't suggesting that she doesn't need teaching from Rogue specifically.  I was saying that she already has full control of her powers.  Once upon a time she was vulnerable to the explosions from her own timebombs, but now she can control what shape they take, where they fly & even reabsorb them.  You don't see any of those features now.  Most lazy artists & writers just show her blasting away without any consideration to shape, construction or the limitless nature of her imagination.  Maybe if she teamed up with Shatterstar then they'd reproduce that trick with his swords... but knowing how Shatterstar is these days, he's more likely to try a different trick with is other 'sword' ;)
 
As for any development in X-Force, just about all that has been purposefully ignored.  Jut like how Sunspot hasn't displayed the ability to fly or shoot bolts of fiery black energy in the new New Mutants, and Cannonball can just fly around in an incredibly weakened blastfield compared to development he'd reached where he could stand still & redirect it as an offensive power.  Most of the original X-Force's continuity & character development has been largely forgotten.   
 
If anything, it's be nice to see her in Legacy if only because Mike Carey is the kind of writer who'd do something interesting with her character.  However, the general premise of he book (normally) is Rogue & Magneto with the trainees thrown in for good measure.  So it's doubtful that Boom Boom would have anything but a minor cameo at best. 
 
@die_yng said:
"This rule can't really exist,  seeing how both Amara and Cypher weren't New Mutants at the start. Just count the issues were they both appeared as New Mutants members, if I'm not totally wrong, they are less than Tabitha's. I mean only when they are really members, in case of Amara being a hellion doesn't count, as well as Doug's appearnces before he was recognized as a mutant and team member.

X-Factor is the other book I'd love to see her in, not only because half of the group consists of her former teammates, but also because PD does a great job with all this fringe characters. Okay, the appearance in the special was a bit strange, but with this alone, can you really be sure PD hates her? 
As far as Richtor is concerned, the connection between them hasn't been that strong for a long time, if you look at X-Force's later issues, she treats him none different to her other teammates. 
I think it is pretty strange  that we never even see anyone in the New Mutants squad or in X-Factor interact with either Tabitha or James Proudstar., it's like "yes, we've been teammates for so and so many years, but now I won't even talk to you:"  Today the Writers (or perhaps the editors) either only want to accept certain connections or they just don't want to respect continuity. 
Personally I never liked X-Terminators very much, except for Boom Boom and Rictor they were pretty dull characters. I agree that Uncanny wouldn't be the right place for her, but hey, if she actually started to play a bigger part in it, I wouldn't complain, unless they just want to kill her off.  
Has Boom Boom ever had any contact with either Typhoid Mary or Marrow? It would be a pretty strange team. Two psychos and a  nonstop talking valley girl (exaggerating her!!)? 
What would be the reaon fir such a team?"

Technically, you're right.  However, in more practical terms people refer to the 'original' New Mutants team as the first 8 members.  Before the roster became clogged up with weird & wacky characters like Bird Brain & Gosamyr, and before they integrated the members of the X-Terminators.  Therefore Boom Boom, Rictor, Skids & co were New Muants, but they weren't members of the original team (ie the team that Chris Claremont wrote). 
 
The current X-Factor roster does seem to consist of her ex-team-mates.  However, from a personal point of view I'm glad that she's not in X-Factor.  Both Boom Boom & Dazzler were written as dizzy blondes who're easily distracted by sex in the X-actor: Nation X one-shot.  It sure has been a long time since Boom Boom has chased the boys, but she was never so easily bowled over like that before. 
 
In interviews fans are always asking to see Elixir, Wolfsbane, Ric & Boom Boom in New Mutants.  However, the writer seemed keen to focus only on the core team.  Despite the fact that we obviously want to see old friends reunited, if only to hang out for a little while, the creators seem determined not to let it happen.  I can't remember exactly where it was, but in one interview a fan was told to assume that not everything happens on panel.  Yet there are old relationships & friendships being completely ignored.  The only item I can remember someone addressing Boom Boom's old team-mates was when the Leper Queen had kidnapped her & Warpath kicked the door.  He didn't give up looking for her, and even killed two HAMMER agents who were about to rape her.  Aside from those brief moments in X-Force, and when she was floozying around with Shatterstar, she really hasn't had any interaction with her old team-mates. 
 
(And we can all have our own dream team-ups.  Even the weird ones ;)
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#37 Edited by HexThis (892 posts) - - Show Bio
@die_yng said:

Has Boom Boom ever had any contact with either Typhoid Mary or Marrow? It would be a pretty strange team. Two psychos and a  nonstop talking valley girl (exaggerating her!!)? 
What would be the reaon fir such a team?

She's had no interaction with them whatsoever (maybe Marrow a little during her Weapon X appearance) but they're all characters who are underused, have unrealized potential, and are on continuous, rather boring loops. I mean, Typhoid Mary was actually going somewhere interesting with Mutant Zero yet now, once again, she's simply an agent for Fisk. It'd be awesome if the three of them were sent to Madripoor or something for some dangerous mission, that'd be nuts! Obviously it would need a star player to bring in the numbers but I think a team where Tabitha may be the most rational, logical one would be really interesting. 
 
@xerox-kitty said:

Both Boom Boom & Dazzler were written as dizzy blondes who're easily distracted by sex in the X-actor: Nation X one-shot.  It sure has been a long time since Boom Boom has chased the boys, but she was never so easily bowled over like that before.  In interviews fans are always asking to see Elixir, Wolfsbane, Ric & Boom Boom in New Mutants.  However, the writer seemed keen to focus only on the core team.  Despite the fact that we obviously want to see old friends reunited, if only to hang out for a little while, the creators seem determined not to let it happen.  I can't remember exactly where it was, but in one interview a fan was told to assume that not everything happens on panel.  Yet there are old relationships & friendships being completely ignored.  The only item I can remember someone addressing Boom Boom's old team-mates was when the Leper Queen had kidnapped her & Warpath kicked the door.  He didn't give up looking for her, and even killed two HAMMER agents who were about to rape her.  Aside from those brief moments in X-Force, and when she was floozying around with Shatterstar, she really hasn't had any interaction with her old team-mates.  (And we can all have our own dream team-ups.  Even the weird ones ;) "

Yeah, it's really disheartening to see Tabitha portrayed that way because so much of her arc on X-force showed her growing up. Also, it addressed her issues with men as well which could easily be attributed to her father's abuse and negligence. X-force did a good job of showing Tabitha wasn't cavalierly attracted to men, her fickleness came probably from a lack of trust in men in general. Her issues with Sunspot, for example, as well as Cannonball usually coincided with issues she was having with her father. Since that's such a serious, sensitive subject for her, I'm always annoyed that they show her as just being flighty. Also the shopping thing sort of bothers me too. She was shopping when she was kidnapped by the Leper Queen, shopping when Nuwa attacked her, shopping in the beginning of Nextwave making references to a party with Paris Hilton. Uhm, Tabitha grew up in a trailer and was destitute as a teenage runaway, I would understand her need for excess when it comes things she couldn't have when she was younger but I imagine she'd be pretty money-conscious as well. 
 
Dazzler is all around mistreated as well. Particularly with Land's heinously out-of-date attire, she's wearing her hair up with bangs over her face JUST like Pamela Anderson did...in the 90's! That and her friendship with Northstar which seems so stereotypical to me. If he did have a galpal, I would think it would be someone like Monet or something. Northstar is cynical, he's endearingly brazen, he doesn't seem to mesh well with Dazzler and I didn't like that he and Dazzler got Pixie drunk either. I always thought Northstar would've been better for X-factor because I could see him having an interesting dynamic with Monet as well as a romance with Rictor but with Shatterstar around that won't come anytime soon.  
#38 Posted by die_yng (15 posts) - - Show Bio


I've also got the feeling that for some reason editorial or the writer don't want Tabitha or any of the other later New Mutants in the fold. 
It's weird though, because Rahne also isn't with the team and she was one of the original NM's.

I'd think you could add at least one newer member to the team to replace her, but I even got a direct answer via email that it was n't gonna happen. 
Still sucks though.

Sometimes I fel that today's  Marvel staff actually goes out of their way to annoy old fans, instead of giving us some fanservice. 
 
The missing interaction is something that bothers me enourmosly, I mean there s a woman who he wants even wanted to marry, but we never see Cannonball exchange even a greeting with her? Yeah, yeah, sure! It all happens offscreen but with other characters you manage to show even the most dull stuff.

 

Basically I'd say that the whole first X-Force series is treated as if it never existed.

It's never getting referenced anywhere and every development in it has either been retconned or is simply being ignored. 
This really concerns all former members, Cable and Domino included. 
And it is happening for a while now. 
First thing I noticed was that Roberto's flight and energycasting ability wasn't used anymore, the next thing was in one of the earlier X-Factor issues, were Rictor and Syrin were introduced to each other, like they'd never seen the other before.

At that time I even wrote a letter because of it, it was printed in the lettercolumn, but basically PD just said he did it for readers that are not familiar with the characters. 
Which honestly doesn't make a lot of sense, because he could just've used someone like Monet who really had almost no contact with both of them (especially given her convoluted history).

 

Bad characterísation is no surprise for me, I can't remember a time were seldom used characters didn't make appearances that were totally OOC. 
 
At least Dazzler was in New Excalibur a few years back, I'd be more than happy if Tabitha' d get a chance like this again.

#39 Edited by BoomBoom (93 posts) - - Show Bio

They didn't use Boom Boom in AOA so I don't expect she to be used in this AOX neither, Which is not fair, so much potential wasted by Marvel. And she is not that obscure, I mean she was in New Mutants, Fallen Angels, X-terminators, X-Factor, She was In X-Force, She was in Nextwave, she is an X-Men now and she even dated Cannonball and Sunspot, She sure could date Iceman now, Would be a perfect couple, Not to mention she had a good stories with Vanisher, Beyonder, Sabretooth , Cable, Domino, Psylock, and her death by the Leper Queen upset a lot of people, even the Leper Queen knew that she was too important to the X-men, Plus she was in X-Men Evolution and in the First episode of Wolverine and the X-men, so she might come around one day againl Like Kitty Pryde, Dazzler and Jubilee did after years off panel.    

#40 Posted by HexThis (892 posts) - - Show Bio
@BoomBoom: 
AOX has been using some pretty obscure mutants though, I mean Unuscione and Frenzy only had a quarter of Tabby's appearances in the X-books. That being said, I wouldn't bet on Boom Boom being included. 
 
It's true she's been apart of many incarnations and, as a matter in fact, she was in a large part of X-factor's run alongside the original four X-men so it's strange that now with all these connections she's still not really acknowledged at all. I would even think she could probably relate to Hope as Cable was very much her father figure during her time on X-force....
#41 Edited by BoomBoom (93 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, Marvel Got a Problem with Tabby and I don't know why, I collect X-Men comic book, but I let pass a lot, but I go crazy when I see Boom boom is in it. Should we sign a petition? Plus I would love to see the the New Young mutants talk about her, they never even mention her, apart from Pixie once and Surge.

#42 Posted by kingoftheworld (254 posts) - - Show Bio

MORE BOOM BOOM
#43 Posted by Ms. Omega (4426 posts) - - Show Bio

I love me some Boom Boom :)

#44 Posted by BoomBoom (93 posts) - - Show Bio

Is so annoying, In age of X there still not sign of Boom Boom !!!!! What's wrong!!!!!!!!!

#45 Posted by Squares (5297 posts) - - Show Bio

She's never worn a leather teddy, it was more of a corset. And what do you mean, nobody wears those anymore?! TONS of people wear corsets and/or chokers! Just not leather that often, because leather is expensive, especially in terms of corsetry.

#46 Posted by HexThis (892 posts) - - Show Bio
@Squares said:
She's never worn a leather teddy, it was more of a corset. And what do you mean, nobody wears those anymore?! TONS of people wear corsets and/or chokers! Just not leather that often, because leather is expensive, especially in terms of corsetry.
Teddy or corset, it still looks like a cocktail dress rather than a uniform and if it's not leather it looks almost latex or something. And I stand by the choker thing, it was a fad in the 90's but nobody really wears them now outside of pornstars, the occasional goth chick, and maybe someone who works at Coyote Ugly. Personally I don't think it's attractive in the least but furthermore, it's disconcertingly fetishy seeing as how it's something you'd fasten around a dog's neck.
#47 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio

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#48 Posted by Squares (5297 posts) - - Show Bio
@HexThis said:
@pixelized said:
" As ADD as Tab is, it's a shame she hasn't found herself something to do, other than get kidnapped and nearly killed :( "
What's so strange to me is that if you read Legacy it has Husk, Trance, Blindfold, Surge is in there for a second, Hellion, Dragoness, Rockslide...a TON of lesser known chracters Rogue's kind of mentoring and Tabby's never been in it once. Nor has she been at all involved with Jubilee's recent storyline although...I feel like I've just jinxed myself because I can imagine them having some like "totally hot" scream queen sequence where Jubilee sucks her blood but feels really bad about it or something stupid like that. 
O_O I think that would make me swear off X-men altogether. 
@die_yng: There are a lot of 'old fans' to cater to - the X-men franchise has been around for a long, long time. You're probably referring to people who started reading some time in the 90s or late 80s, but what about the fans that were reading the series back in the 70s? They probably don't give a damn about anyone from X-force.
#49 Posted by BoomBoom (93 posts) - - Show Bio

She is back in Fear itself just a small cameo, at least is something, and glad to see her fighting along Psyloke again

#50 Posted by HexThis (892 posts) - - Show Bio
@BoomBoom said:
She is back in Fear itself just a small cameo, at least is something, and glad to see her fighting along Psyloke again
She certainly is! I was very pleased to see her. Though Uncanny is devastated with Land and wavy in terms of quality, they've featured Boom Boom on that title more than any other as of late!

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