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Could a film based off Blue Marvel work? I understand he is the black superman in the comics. With the right cast and crew could the film be a success?he;s the black superman in marvel not comics as a whole
@Mr. Smiths said:Icon was first, wasn't he? And wasn't Steel a fill in for Superman while he was dead?Could a film based off Blue Marvel work? I understand he is the black superman in the comics. With the right cast and crew could the film be a success?he;s the black superman in marvel not comics as a whole
@Avenging-X-Bolt said:yup yup@Mr. Smiths said:Icon was first, wasn't he? And wasn't Steel a fill in for Superman while he was dead?Could a film based off Blue Marvel work? I understand he is the black superman in the comics. With the right cast and crew could the film be a success?he;s the black superman in marvel not comics as a whole
@JediXMan said:Plus there's Jason (Firestorm II), who is arguably the most powerful hero on Earth. Ronnie (Firestorm I)... not so much. I prefer Jason, personally. He can actually transmute organics.@Avenging-X-Bolt said:yup yup@Mr. Smiths said:Icon was first, wasn't he? And wasn't Steel a fill in for Superman while he was dead?Could a film based off Blue Marvel work? I understand he is the black superman in the comics. With the right cast and crew could the film be a success?he;s the black superman in marvel not comics as a whole
Any comic related movie could be successful with the right cast and crew.Marvel would have to do it's job on the comics end though and promote Blue Marvel more and I don't think they are willing to do that.He is black after all.
@Avenging-X-Bolt said:that has absolutely nothing to do with black superman counterparts.........@JediXMan said:Plus there's Jason (Firestorm II), who is arguably the most powerful hero on Earth. Ronnie (Firestorm I)... not so much. I prefer Jason, personally. He can actually transmute organics.@Avenging-X-Bolt said:yup yup@Mr. Smiths said:Icon was first, wasn't he? And wasn't Steel a fill in for Superman while he was dead?Could a film based off Blue Marvel work? I understand he is the black superman in the comics. With the right cast and crew could the film be a success?he;s the black superman in marvel not comics as a whole
@JediXMan said:Powerful black superheroes. Jason is black, and he is powerful. What, they have to have the same powerset as Superman? Jason is stronger than Superman is.@Avenging-X-Bolt said:that has absolutely nothing to do with black superman counterparts.........@JediXMan said:Plus there's Jason (Firestorm II), who is arguably the most powerful hero on Earth. Ronnie (Firestorm I)... not so much. I prefer Jason, personally. He can actually transmute organics.@Avenging-X-Bolt said:yup yup@Mr. Smiths said:Icon was first, wasn't he? And wasn't Steel a fill in for Superman while he was dead?Could a film based off Blue Marvel work? I understand he is the black superman in the comics. With the right cast and crew could the film be a success?he;s the black superman in marvel not comics as a whole
What, they have to have the same powerset as Superman?Yes.
Jason is stronger than Superman is.What? Since when?
@JediXMan said:1. Alright. Me personally, I think Superman's power set is unoriginal at this point, but...What, they have to have the same powerset as Superman?Yes.
@JediXMan said:Jason is stronger than Superman is.What? Since when?
yeah cause black superheroes can't hold their on movies besides blade and aren't taken seriously enough to be a great franchise. they have to appeal everyone for general audiences to like them i don't think black panther, luke cage, spawn will translate well to the big screen.
here's my reason why
black panther- nobody cares about africa or whatever the hell is going on over there
luke cage- a hood character stereotypejust because he's black and gain his powers from jail that doesn't have that much depth to him besides being a badass ex-con
Spawn- demonic character turns against hell to see his wife one last time won't sell because demon movies suck don't believe me go watch legion. nay turn around if ghost rider 2 does well, but that's a big maybe.
@Avenging-X-Bolt said:the topic being discussed was black superman counterparts not powerful black heroes.....im not saying your wrong or cant talk about others. just that its weird to jump into a topic about superman counterparts with something unrelated to the subject@JediXMan said:Powerful black superheroes. Jason is black, and he is powerful. What, they have to have the same powerset as Superman? Jason is stronger than Superman is.@Avenging-X-Bolt said:that has absolutely nothing to do with black superman counterparts.........@JediXMan said:Plus there's Jason (Firestorm II), who is arguably the most powerful hero on Earth. Ronnie (Firestorm I)... not so much. I prefer Jason, personally. He can actually transmute organics.@Avenging-X-Bolt said:yup yup@Mr. Smiths said:Icon was first, wasn't he? And wasn't Steel a fill in for Superman while he was dead?Could a film based off Blue Marvel work? I understand he is the black superman in the comics. With the right cast and crew could the film be a success?he;s the black superman in marvel not comics as a whole
@JediXMan said:Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought it was more about strong black superheroes who could be in a movie. Or black superhero with comparable strength as Superman, but not necessarily the same exact powerset.@Avenging-X-Bolt said:the topic being discussed was black superman counterparts not powerful black heroes.....im not saying your wrong or cant talk about others. just that its weird to jump into a topic about superman counterparts with something unrelated to the subject@JediXMan said:Powerful black superheroes. Jason is black, and he is powerful. What, they have to have the same powerset as Superman? Jason is stronger than Superman is.@Avenging-X-Bolt said:that has absolutely nothing to do with black superman counterparts.........@JediXMan said:Plus there's Jason (Firestorm II), who is arguably the most powerful hero on Earth. Ronnie (Firestorm I)... not so much. I prefer Jason, personally. He can actually transmute organics.@Avenging-X-Bolt said:yup yup@Mr. Smiths said:Icon was first, wasn't he? And wasn't Steel a fill in for Superman while he was dead?Could a film based off Blue Marvel work? I understand he is the black superman in the comics. With the right cast and crew could the film be a success?he;s the black superman in marvel not comics as a whole
1. Alright. Me personally, I think Superman's power set is unoriginal at this point, but... 2. Well, that's my opinion, anyway. If he wanted to, couldn't he kill Superman? Not that he would. But Jason has a lot of untapped potential.Are we talking about POWER or PHYSICAL STRENGTH because I'm almost positive that Jason isn't physically as strong as Superman.
@Avenging-X-Bolt said:no problem : D@JediXMan said:Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought it was more about strong black superheroes who could be in a movie. Or black superhero with comparable strength as Superman, but not necessarily the same exact powerset.@Avenging-X-Bolt said:the topic being discussed was black superman counterparts not powerful black heroes.....im not saying your wrong or cant talk about others. just that its weird to jump into a topic about superman counterparts with something unrelated to the subject@JediXMan said:Powerful black superheroes. Jason is black, and he is powerful. What, they have to have the same powerset as Superman? Jason is stronger than Superman is.@Avenging-X-Bolt said:that has absolutely nothing to do with black superman counterparts.........@JediXMan said:Plus there's Jason (Firestorm II), who is arguably the most powerful hero on Earth. Ronnie (Firestorm I)... not so much. I prefer Jason, personally. He can actually transmute organics.@Avenging-X-Bolt said:yup yup@Mr. Smiths said:Icon was first, wasn't he? And wasn't Steel a fill in for Superman while he was dead?Could a film based off Blue Marvel work? I understand he is the black superman in the comics. With the right cast and crew could the film be a success?he;s the black superman in marvel not comics as a whole
yeah cause black superheroes can't hold their on movies besides blade and aren't taken seriously enough to be a great franchise. they have to appeal everyone for general audiences to like them i don't think black panther, luke cage, spawn will translate well to the big screen. here's my reason why black panther- nobody cares about africa or whatever the hell is going on over there luke cage- a hood character stereotypejust because he's black and gain his powers from jail that doesn't have that much depth to him besides being a badass ex-con Spawn- demonic character turns against hell to see his wife one last time won't sell because demon movies suck don't believe me go watch legion. nay turn around if ghost rider 2 does well, but that's a big maybe.Luke Cage is technically a super soldier.He didn't get his powers FROM jail.His powers were his ticket out.
@JediXMan said:I am using strength as a blanket term for overall power. Sorry; my mind is in multiple directions right now.1. Alright. Me personally, I think Superman's power set is unoriginal at this point, but... 2. Well, that's my opinion, anyway. If he wanted to, couldn't he kill Superman? Not that he would. But Jason has a lot of untapped potential.Are we talking about POWER or PHYSICAL STRENGTH because I'm almost positive that Jason isn't physically as strong as Superman.
I am using strength as a blanket term for overall power. Sorry; my mind is in multiple directions right now.Oh ok.Yea, Jason may be more powerful than Superman.I'm not really sure.
@Vance Astro said:How can Superman's power set be unoriginal when he in fact was the original character to have that power set, maybe the countless rip offs could be considered unoriginal though@JediXMan said:1. Alright. Me personally, I think Superman's power set is unoriginal at this point, but... 2. Well, that's my opinion, anyway. If he wanted to, couldn't he kill Superman? Not that he would. But Jason has a lot of untapped potential.What, they have to have the same powerset as Superman?Yes.
@JediXMan said:Jason is stronger than Superman is.What? Since when?
@JediXMan said:He isn't. The ripoffs are. After the first two or three, it gets rather monotonous.@Vance Astro said:How can Superman's power set be unoriginal when he in fact was the original character to have that power set, maybe the countless rip offs could be considered unoriginal though@JediXMan said:1. Alright. Me personally, I think Superman's power set is unoriginal at this point, but... 2. Well, that's my opinion, anyway. If he wanted to, couldn't he kill Superman? Not that he would. But Jason has a lot of untapped potential.What, they have to have the same powerset as Superman?Yes.
@JediXMan said:Jason is stronger than Superman is.What? Since when?
He isn't. The ripoffs are. After the first two or three, it gets rather monotonous.No such thing as a rip-off in comics.
@JediXMan said:I suppose, after awhile, all characters are ripoffs of others; it's just that some are more blatant about it than others.He isn't. The ripoffs are. After the first two or three, it gets rather monotonous.No such thing as a rip-off in comics.
Shaq for Blue Marvel!!!! Who's with me? :D
Really?!? Here's an example. Change one "B" to "M" and you pretty much know who this guy's ripping off...@JediXMan said:
He isn't. The ripoffs are. After the first two or three, it gets rather monotonous.No such thing as a rip-off in comics.

Well Hancock made over $ 624,000,000 at the Box Office and that film was about a Black Superhero.Yeah, a black super hero who was homeless with an alcohol problem.
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@King Saturn said:well he still helped people... and it's not like Hancock was the only Superhero who had Personal Problems.Well Hancock made over $ 624,000,000 at the Box Office and that film was about a Black Superhero.Yeah, a black super hero who was homeless with an alcohol problem.
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@Osiris1428 said:Tony Stark was a homeless alchy. Besides he got his act together in the end.@King Saturn said:well he still helped people... and it's not like Hancock was the only Superhero who had Personal Problems.Well Hancock made over $ 624,000,000 at the Box Office and that film was about a Black Superhero.Yeah, a black super hero who was homeless with an alcohol problem.
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Most characters that exist draw inspiration from somewhere.It's nearly impossible to do something completely original in an artistic medium."Rip-off" suggests something malicious when most similar characters are just homages to others.Even characters like Superman,Batman,& Wonder Woman whom frequently get "ripped off" have characteristics inspired from other stories and characters that existed before.@Vance Astro: really? I could name 12 image characters from the 90s to prove you wrong on the whole no rip offs thing
i agree with vance astro's statement about superheroes in general bring ripoffs. but black superheroes are a hard bargain to sell cause america don't know who they are and aren't ready for diversity in superhero films
i made a list of all the bad superhero movies & good ones
meteor man- superman like character genre comedy
blankman- tech gadget guy genre comedy
steel- tech guy genre- comedy
Spawn-supernatural/horror
good ones
blade- vampire hunter horror
that its???? .....
i agree with vance astro's statement about superheroes in general bring ripoffs. but black superheroes are a hard bargain to sell cause america don't know who they are and aren't ready for diversity in superhero films i made a list of all the bad superhero movies & good ones meteor man- superman like character genre comedy blankman- tech gadget guy genre comedy steel- tech guy genre- comedy Spawn-supernatural/horror good ones blade- vampire hunter horror that its???? .....I don't think anyone needs to know who Blue Marvel is to sell him movie wise.I'm sure there were plenty of people who didn't know Blade was a Marvel character when that movie came out.They were probably just going to see something they thought looked interesting.
but black superheroes are a hard bargain to sell cause america don't know who they are and aren't ready for diversity in superhero films i made a list of all the bad superhero movies & good ones meteor man- superman like character genre comedy blankman- tech gadget guy genre comedy steel- tech guy genre- comedy Spawn-supernatural/horror good ones blade- vampire hunter horror that its???? .....Not trying to pick on you at all, so please don't take it as that, but this information is pretty incorrect. Meteor Man and Blankman aren't actually superhero genre movies anymore than Superhero Movie and Epic Movie, ect, are, they're parodies poking fun at the superhero genre. In other words they weren't taking themselves seriously hence they weren't taken seriously. Steel actually wasn't a comedy (I know, it's hard to tell), and just a franchise spin-off movie that wasn't done very well, much like Supergirl and therefore didn't receive accolades, less so than an issue of the main characters race. Spawn, despite maybe your and others view of it, was actually a huge success and equated as the " Jaws " of it's time. Blade dug Marvel itself out of bankruptcy so it speaks for itself. Hancock mentioned already also did more than well. Catwoman however sunk pretty low, then again one could attribute it to the bad production value, especially given how well Earth Kitt went over with audiences and still does. Likewise off the top of my head Nick Fury, Storm, and the Kingpin where all African-American characters who got a fair shake in film and then some, and despite any grammatical issues that could be found there, enjoyed high success and where enjoyed by the film going audiences in general including the portion that doesn't read comic books.
@CATPANEXE: VERY good points there!! But, there is something though: Danny Glover says that he is coming out with a movie about the Haiti slave rebellion against the French, and the reason why he can't get any financial backing for the movie he claims is because he has been told that :"There aren't any white protagonists". Maybe that's why 'The Help' was a big success. Hancock had a white guy who helped clean him up and did PR for him. I dunno...
Hmm-I think it's likely that anti-matter powers slow down (if not halt entirely) the aging process(Wonder Man's ionic powers do the same for him apparently). If he was a US Marine veteran of the Korean War( and not until 1942 did the USMC drop its ban on black enlistment-the Corps British counterparts the Royal Marines did not follow suit until 1968 BTW), then it's fair to assume that his birthday was 1925- give or take a few years either way, making him 85/86 as of this year.
Terry
the problem with blue marvel is what would he do and how would that matter in the marvel universe? what the tone of the character ? who are his friends and who are his enemies ? why does he believe the world can be a good place? should he be on the defenders?
Yes, it could and I would go see it. Blue Marvel is a great character and truly underrated/overlooked superhero that I believe with the right writer could become as big as Captain America, Spider-Man, and Iron Man in the Marvel Universe!
Who should play Blue Marvel- I personally think my favourite(and namesake) Denzel is too long in the tooth for the title role, but how about an up and comer such as Taye Diggs or maybe Will Smith( that is, if Will isn't too busy playing Obama in a Presidential biopic!).
Terry
BTW If Adam Brashear was old enough to fight in the Korean War( and bear in mind the US Marines only began to accept black recruits in 1942), shouldn't he be logically well into his eighties by now- my guess is that the anti-matter radiation which gave him his powers left him functionally immortal(or at least extraordinarily slow to age physically) much like Wonder Man's ionic energy but did not impair his ability to sire offspring( according to his bio he and his late wife had two children).
It could work. You would just need it to be done right. I say get someone that looks like Derk Luke. I think as a character showing you how he done everything and he saved his country and planet and he still doesn't get accepted would be interesting to see.
@CATPANEXE: i totally agree, and i do believe making a film for blue marvel would be great, his story in my opinion would hold and work very well
@Vance Astro: that sounds kinda messed up dude :/ because hes black?
What?@Vance Astro: that sounds kinda messed up dude :/ because hes black?
Sorry for bumping an old topic, but I really wanted to reply.
A Blue Marvel film would be very exceptional with the right people behind it. It could be a period piece with a superhero twist. You know show the time period along with his story. Show the racial element; show the political element; show the wars, you know bring that time period to the forefront but not so much as to overshadow the main storyline. As for actors I noticed someone mentioned Denzel Washington, Derek Luke, Will Smith, and Taye Diggs who are all nice candidates (except Denzel, he doesn't seem the type), but character-wise they don't fit. Personally, I would pick his creator Kevin Grevioux. He's a well-established actor and writer plus he meets the physical characteristics of the character. He is more or less Adam Brashear (Blue Marvel).
What do you think?
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