Fury of Joy

Posted by Joygirl (20848 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm back, and it's time to throw another fit. Ready? Good!

So, I'm angry again. Really quite angry. It took a good 20 hours or so for me to even get calm enough to write this in a reasonable way.

If you know me well, you'll know that I am a big fan of the Red Lantern Corps, specifically the character Bleez and, to a slightly lesser extent, Atrocitus. In fact, if you've known me for a while (or are also a fan of the RL's), you'll know that I have blogged on this topic a few times in the past. I tend to get pretty angry about everything that's happened since Red Lanterns #13, at which time the entire series and the entire mythos took a serious nosedive. There've been issues since the reboot, but they were ones I tried to overlook since I genuinely enjoyed the series from #0 to #12, along with the characters' appearances in titles like "Green Lantern: New Guardians", "Rage of the Red Lanterns", and "Green Lantern: Emerald Warriors".

For the sake of consistency, I've briefly edited my past two rants on the topic and am inserting them into this "article", along with an all-new third chapter discussing my feelings on Red Lanterns #19 through #22.

Note: These rants deal largely with the mistreatment of the character Bleez.

Chapter One -- Joy Gets Pissed

This article (read: RANT) includes spoilers for Red Lanterns #16. If you haven't read it yet, and actually care about it, go read it before moving onward. If you don't care about it, or have already read it, read on.

So, people who know me and follow my posts know that I am a Red Lantern fan – a big Red Lantern fan.

Maybe the biggest Red Lantern fan.

Or the only Red Lantern fan, it's hard to tell sometimes.

I have defended the title from the very beginning against overwhelmingly negative reviews. Cast aside accusations about the title being wayward and poorly written. I have genuinely enjoyed it since #1, I love Atrocitus and Dex-Starr, and I ADORE Bleez. I have (as far as I can tell) read her every single significant appearance. As can be seen in my lists, she is my second-favorite character, behind only Harley Quinn (who has seen enough abuse in the last two years).

So what if the title is wayward? It's using some very new characters, and has up until this point been doing so nicely. Atrocitus is the brooding, sullen, tortured, savage mastermind. Bleez is the cold, haughty, imperious, sarcastic second-in-command. Rankorr is the privileged nancy-boy.

But, more and more, I am starting to suspect that Peter Milligan's first dog's name was “Jack”, and that his mother's maiden name is “Moore”, because Rankorr has become the biggest Mary Sue I have ever seen in my life.

Reasonings? I have many.

Intelligence: Rankorr became the first human Red Lantern a while back, Milligan's only actual addition to the roster. Now, generally, the instant a RL gains the ring, they lose their mind. Become mindless, raging maniacs – or at least, until they get dipped into the Blood Ocean. The only character besides Atrocitus to show sentience before the Blood Ocean dip was Bleez, who, while still borderline-mindless, had enough intelligence left over to retain her ambition and arrogance.

Rankorr, on the other hand, has none of these problems. He attracts a red ring but pretends he doesn't have it, he retains full human intelligence without assistance from Atrocitus or anyone else. He's just better, because why not?

No reason has ever been given for him retaining his intelligence.

Constructs: Rankorr can make constructs. Magically.

Now, he isn't the first RL to make constructs – before the reboot, Bleez was clearly shown being able to make simple constructs and use them to great effect.

But not anymore. Milligan has specifically retconned that because nobody is allowed to make constructs besides Rankorr. Only he can, because he's the best, and if anyone else could do things Rankorr can he wouldn't be as super-duper-special as he obviously has to be.

This has also led to him being 'special' among Atrocitus and the corps. Big Red offers him special tasks because of his constructs, which are strange, foreign things to him, apparently. He gets to be the golden boy... just because.

No reason has ever been given for Rankorr being able to create constructs. Apparently, the secret is in his blood, however. Or at least Bleez guesses.

Too Sexy For His Ring: Rankorr's sexiness and coveted constructs are so powerful that they can easily destroy years of character development and personality. This was the straw that broke the camel's back, here – he has been acting like a Mary Sue since he first appeared, and I found it distasteful but I tolerated it. Now, he is bringing other characters down so that he can look better than them.

Most recently, in Red Lanterns #16, Bleez utterly subjugates herself before him, willing to desperately whore herself out to him in order to get some of Rankorr's blood, which will magically give her the ability to make the constructs she could already make before the reboot.

This was a moment I was waiting for as Jack Moore became a more and more insufferable author avatar who was perfect at everything. The moment when Milligan uses one of my favorite characters to become his personal sex-pet.

It was worse than I had even expected.

I was waiting for Bleez and Rankorr to bump uglies --- it was an absolute inevitability that I knew was coming. But it was worse. So much worse. Bleez tries to buddy up to Jack, saying she knows he wants “what she's selling” and doing a few sexy poses to entice him.

A little history on Bleez first, for those who are unfamiliar with her. Bleez's backstory involves being savagely (and really creepily) gangraped and tortured. Before that, she refused to take a suitor, being too proud to be itemized purely for her beauty. After becoming a Red Lantern, she was sensual – but not sexual. The mask she uses is to hide her face, and her sensuality is more closely tied with her intense, sadistic bloodlust. The closest she has come to a meaningful relationship was with the Star Sapphire Fatality, who offered to convert her to the Violet Corps and show her the way of Love. Despite being close to Fatality, Bleez ultimately declined in a violent fashion, showing that she is still tortured after her subjugation by the Sinestro Corps. She is an interesting character because she is both cold and fiery at once – this inaccessibility is part of her charm.

However, it did nothing to prevent her from trying to spread her legs for Rankorr.

Instead of taking her up on the deal, however, Rankorr says he “can't trust her with constructs” and flies off in disgust, leaving her screaming out in spite like a spoiled child.

This entire affair is nauseatingly out of character for her, and cements firmly in my mind that the writer of this title is willing to do anything – ANYTHING – to make Rankorr the best ever, even if it means destroying the characters Milligan didn't create.

And the more he does it, the more I hate Rankorr.

I'll keep reading until #18, which the solicits claim will have a “fight to the death between Bleez and Rankorr”. After that, we'll see if I keep reading this, now that my favorite character has become a spoiled sex-doll with no shame. I'm sure Rankorr will be leading the Red Lantern Corps by #20 at this rate.

Unless either Milligan gets a clue, or we get a new writer on the Red Lanterns title.

Chapter Two -- Joy Has Had Enough

So as you know, Bleez has been reduced to arm-candy levels by DC, when she isn't being outright EVIL. Yeah, that's right -- since my rant on #16, #17-#18 have been giving Bleez about a single panel per issue. What is she using those panels to do? THREATEN THE LIVES OF INNOCENT PEOPLE OUT OF SPITE.

Yeah, that's right. The vengeance-driven, bloodthirsty, but generally decent Red Lantern and rape victim isn't doing anything helpful to the plot. All she's doing is terrorizing Rankorr by stalking him and hunting down a DEFENSELESS WOMAN.

Yeah. A defenseless, innocent woman.

So far, this will sound like I don't like Bleez. I don't want to give that impression.

I HATE HER. I CAN'T STAND HER. Or more specifically, I can't stand the hateful doppleganger that has taken the place of one of my very favorite characters, who, while previously very angry and hurt, had a sense of pride and dignity, and served the cause of the Corps by hunting down the guilty and keeping the other Red Lanterns in order.


So, I've been constantly on the fence with this. Hoping that the genuinely enjoyable and satisfying story that was taking place within Red Lanterns #0-12 would someday return, I held out, suffered through the Third Army. Now I've been suffering through the First Lantern, and good God it's been absolutely terrible in every respect.

But look! A light in the distance! Could it be... a new writer? Taking over the project at #20? Why, it's everything I've always asked for, always hoped for since Milligan suddenly went bonkers and started making the entire title a big Rankorr wank-off in addition to some suddenly horribly-written Atrocitus (yay for tired plot points -- yes, his planet was destroyed!).

I was excited. I was so excited. Some rumors of Guy Gardner joining (or, from the sounds of it, usurping) the corps had me a little bit uneasy but I kept high hopes.

Until this morning, when I saw this.

Ladies and gentlemen, the solicit for Red Lanterns #22.

"Guy Gardner has suddenly found himself at the top of the Red Lantern food chain—but in a pack of bloodthirsty animals like these, everyone’s a predator! If he wants their respect, he’s gonna need the nastiest piece of work in the Corps on his side… but Bleez has her own ideas about what Guy Gardner’s got coming to him!"

Where do I begin?

Let's start with constructs. Bleez has had a major hard-on for Rankorr's constructs (WHICH SHE ALWAYS HAD BEFORE THEY WERE TAKEN AWAY, AND GIVEN ONLY TO RANKORR), and was more than willing to spread her legs to get them (WHICH IS STUPID AND OUT OF CHARACTER. It says horrible things about rape victims and women in general, it's crude and awful and distasteful and just... just... TERRIBLE). From that cover, considering by the oh-so-creative hardlight combat knife in her hand (that's the brutal combat tactician I've come to love! A knife!), it looks like, whether by hook, crook, or orifice, she's managed to get them.

Despite having always had them in the past.


How about the fact that now she's kissing Guy Gardner? Now, they actually kissed once before, in Emerald Warriors -- SORT OF. They mashed lips so that he could drink some of her blood-vomit and therefore go full-Red so he could save the day. That's story-telling, I have no problem with that. None at all.

This, on the other hand, is STUPID.

The solicit clearly states that he needs to "get her on his side" (by having sex with her, apparently -- I know that always works for me), and yet she has "her own ideas". Not that it's stopping her from going for a frenchie on the cover. Yay, yet another instance of a badass female character being nothing more than arm candy for the male hero, and/or using sex to get what she wants.

Because that's the only power women actually have, right? Screw power rings, they have vaginas and can make (much stronger and more efficient) men do whatever they want FOR them, so they don't need to do anything.

Yeah, Bleez has always been a cold-hearted, ambitious, and capricious character. It's what I love about her. But part of that cold-heartedness includes her not going down like an asthmatic 12-year-old at a Black Friday sale. She's better than that. She turned down a chance to join the Star Sapphires because, and I quote, "stick your love"

So, stick your love, literally? Stick it right up in her if it gets her what she wants? What does she even want in this scenario?

I'm done with this title, possibly forever. I held out hope for a new writer and this is what DC gave me, after a continuous stream of rapid, unending kicks to my shins, baby-toes, and other sensitive areas. So I'm out. They can take their character-ruining and misogynistic ways and keep them. Unless things seriously change with the title and DC in general, I will never buy another issue of this book.

Chapter Three -- Joy Gets Really, Really Pissed

Well, I did technically keep my word on that last thing. I didn't buy another issue of the title but, when I started hearing an increasing amount of talk about how "amazing" the new run on the title was, I decided to... otherwise acquire them. A straight injection of four issues directly into my veins created a very, very large amount of rage, and I keenly await the Red Ring that is assuredly rocketing through space towards me as I type this. When I get it, I'm going straight to Milligan's and Soule's houses to exact my righteous vengeance, and use their unworthy blood to feed the power battery.

Since 18, there have been a number of... developments. Big developments. I'll do my best to calmly list them.

Bleez Offers the Red Lantern Corps to Rankorr

Remember how much Bleez wanted to be the leader of the RLC? And y'know how she basically leads and acts in the Kilowog/Arkillo role whenever Atros isn't around? The way she torments and drills the lesser members, causing them to be terrified of her? And leading to scenes like this one? ^^^

Well, that corps that she was willing to fight to the death with Atrocitus over? Skallox offers it to her when Atros seems to be totally off the rails. It leads to this scene. <----------------------

"Tempting, but I'm not the only candidate. Rankorr has shown himself to possess the cunning that humans are renowned for. What do you say, Rankorr? Would you wish to wear the red crown?"

Now I could be a little confused here, but is she talking about that Rankorr, the one who stole Sweet Tooth's hairstyle? The one who's been a lantern for like... a week? The one who has accomplished absolutely nothing of note? The one whose only impressive ability is the power to make constructs that everyone else could make before the reboot -- that ability that he was given for absolutely no reason?

Surely she doesn't mean that Rankorr.

Nope, she does. She offers it to him and he says there's nothing he'd want less, and she doesn't step up to lead the corps. As soon as Atros actually returns, we get to see this. ------->

Mhm. Happy to serve. As always.

Because Bleez has always been happy to serve in the past and DEFINITELY didn't try to murder Atrocitus and steal the corps out from under him. Nope, that wasn't Bleez.



Why Peter Milligan of course, the same guy who's been writing it since #1. He just apparently totally forgot anything he had ever written prior to this.

"No, Lord Atrocitus."

I'll let one scan speak for this entire section.

That. Just. Happened.

Rankorr Solos the Corps -- Including Atrocitus

First I want to point out that Atrocitus already solo'd the entire RLC, sans Rankorr and Bleez. In addition, Bleez is (was) a feared leader and officer of the corps, and as stated above, the other reds fear her.

Well, when Atrocitus decides that, in order to become stronger, the RL's will have to drink Rankorr's blood, he's not impressed with the idea. In fact, he decides that he and he alone should be allowed to have constructs (wow, Milligan and Soule agree on something, that's odd). So, despite the fact that in one scene we can restore the Red Corps to its glory days when everyone that was actually lucid could use constructs, we, instead... get this scene. ------->

Sooo yeah. Apparently the fact that Rankorr, who has been a Lantern for like twenty minutes in-universe and has done nothing of note, is able to easily solo the entire Red Lantern Corps.

Because of, y'know, the constructs.

I think it's kind of funny, however, that those constructs give him such a gigantic advantage... seeing as Red Lanterns have always had an enormous advantage against, and in fact specialize in killing, construct-users. Much like Rankorr.

But nope. The ability to create constructs obviously means that he can defeat anyone, including the man who one-shotted Abin Sur.

Guy Gardner Kills Atrocitus

Most of you have already heard about this. He kills Atros and is immediately elected leader of the Corps. Just in case you haven't heard about it already, here's the scan where he does the deed... enjoy. <-----------------

Yeah. Atrocitus. The guy who nearly destroyed both the green and yellow corps. The guy who had his heart ripped out of his chest and didn't stop fighting. The guy who held his own against Larfleeze. That exact same Atrocitus was killed by the guy who got decked by Hal Jordan's statutory rape victim.

Bleez Comes On To Guy

If you've read the past two chapters you understand what's wrong with this already. But here's the scan, have fun.

Bleez Backs Down to Rankorr

We've already come so far, why stop now? While the Corps tries to decide what to do with a Red-ified Guy Gardner, Rankorr holds him in a construct above the blood ocean.

Then, making up his mind without the Corps having come to a real decision, he just drops him in, causing Guy to regain his intelligence and therefore become a serious threat once again. After this, Guy is pretty much instantly elected the new leader (since he killed Atrocitus, after all).

So yeah, what you're seeing in this scan is Bleez getting pissed off (hah, that's funny, because she's fuelled by rage), shouting at Rankorr, and Rankorr going "hahaha whatever, I've already owned you before because I'm the most powerful creature on earth and could easily solo the Justice League if I felt like it" and proceeding to dominate her and make her look like an idiot. More later on why this should absolutely never ever ever have happened.

But it still happened.

Bleez Submits to Guy Gardner

Ready for more?! Well you're about to get it, so have fun.

Yup. Guy grab's her wing and makes her submit with it, with the addition of the world's most childish taunt ("You wanna keep this?"). She submits fully and doesn't cause any more problems.

Beside the obvious, here are some problems with this:

1. Bleez's bone-wings are not actual bone. They're constructs, and they always have been. If either of the writers ever actually bothered to read her origin story (written by a much better person than they), they would see that Bleez's wings were completely removed by the Sinestro Corps, before she became a Red Lantern. She used constructs to recreate the bone wings we know now -- and yeah, I realize that their constructs were retconned. But it's still stupid. Because it's still not a real wing. Note the fact that it's red and glows.

2. Bleez has killed hordes of Green Lanterns and has slaughtered so many Sinestro Corpsmen she had to stand atop piles of them. In addition, she is (was, before Rankorr) by far the most powerful Red Lantern besides Atrocitus. "But Guy has a green ring too!" you shout. "That makes him doubly powerful!"

No, I'm afraid he doesn't. His green ring is empty. He is a full Red Lantern, and doesn't have constructs like Rankorr.

3. Bleez has beaten Guy before. She's shown that she's more powerful, more durable, and even more intelligent/efficient than he is (and this was before her Blood Ocean dip).

So this entire scene is just a blend of sick power fantasy and terrible, terrible, TERRIBLE writing.

Just like this entire series has been ever since Milligan stopped taking his meds, somewhere around #13.

Chapter Four -- Joy Can't Even

Alright, I'm through evening. No more evens to be had here. I'm done with the pretty fonts and the links and the pictures because by now you know that all the ridiculous ****ing **** in this title is actually happening. Just read #23 and #24 because apparently I am a masochist and I love suffering.

Here are some highlights.

1. It sucks really bad.

2. Bleez catches Guy spying, threatens to expose him. He says some stuff that doesn't make any sense and calls her a dumb bitch and she's all like okay. Then he taunts and teases her and she just backs off because why not, Bleez is not good for anything at all except existing and she isn't any good at that either.

3. Guy states clearly that Green > Red even though they're not.

4. Skallox uses a gun because guns.

5. Zilius Zox turned gray because brown is stupid.

6. Ratchet increased to 8 times his original size because clearly he should be a Hanar instead of whatever Ratchet already is.

7. Guy confirms the events of Emerald Warriors even though the new continuity has made it abundantly clear that nothing in that arc could have actually ever happened, since in Emerald Warriors Bleez is tougher than a group of high-tier green lanterns and could use constructs and now she is a coward with no special abilities.

8. Reds vs. Greens yay. A single green shield can block a full stream of red plasma from multiple lanterns without cracking. Back in the day one Red was worth multiple Greens.

9. Dex-Starr has constructs and yaaay it makes sense because hasty flashback.

10. Atrocitus gets the Butcher only so Kyle can come take it and leave.

11. Atros without a ring can barely function and is not badass at all, despite being > Abin Sur with no ring at all.

12. Guy mentions that the Blood Ocean keeps the Red Central Battery alive even though it doesn't.

Okay that's it. Bye. Gonna go get my guillotine so that I can remove my head. Seeya next time.

P.S. Everyone who writes novel-length blogs about how Superior Spider-Man is the worst thing any human being has ever done in all of history should be forced to shut up, sit down, and read Red Lanterns from 1 to 24. Then they can decide what the worst thing ever done in all of history actually is.

So there you have it folks. Just read all of that. Look at the scans. And taste my pain and fury. Know why my heart is beating so hard, understand why my blood burns with rage.

I want you to fully comprehend why this is so wrong, and I want you...

To f***ing...

Acknowledge it.

#1 Posted by Wolverine08 (48187 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn, this must be egregiously bad.

#2 Posted by Jokergeist (4715 posts) - - Show Bio


#3 Posted by Jokergeist (4715 posts) - - Show Bio

#4 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (7618 posts) - - Show Bio

You made me hate this and I haven't even read it yet lol.

#5 Posted by INLIFE (1614 posts) - - Show Bio


#6 Posted by TheCheeseStabber (8195 posts) - - Show Bio

Joygirls angry...

*Quickly packs bags*


*Runs away*

P.s your points are valid and I approve, I never saw Bleez bowing to anything but rather go ou fighting and with rage, but I heard Atrotioucus is alive still so...

#7 Posted by Gwahlur_Rising (297 posts) - - Show Bio

I just need to take a moment to really drink your rage in...this is gonna sustain me for months...

#8 Edited by GraniteSoldier (11208 posts) - - Show Bio

Sounds eerily similar to our Venom discussion. But I whole-heartedly agree, I hate when writers mistreat characters. It happens because they either: A) don't understand the character and haven't really read up on them in detail and only have a jist of them, or B) they just don't like the character they are writing and turn them into something dislikable or laughable on purpose. Personally, if these individuals are professional writers, it is their job to research and write well the characters they are going to be writing. Certainly, changes are allowed and characters can slowly change over time into something totally different. Even people do that. But to outright do them poorly without knowledge, or even worse without care, I find disrespectful to the readers who do like them. After all, every character no matter how small or obscure has it's fans.

DC kind of gave writers a "get out of jail free" with New 52 though. The whole universe got rebooted, so anything and everything goes. You are not the first, or last, to grief about it.

#9 Posted by RetconCrisis (4674 posts) - - Show Bio

Basically when I first read the issues, I was like "Oh are they gonna do some plot twist where Bleez gives in to Atros just so she can backstab him or something, or maybe something awesome happens involving Atros...?" But as I read on I was always thinking "... And...?" until I got to the Atros death scene and I took the comic and I

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#10 Posted by Angryprune (744 posts) - - Show Bio

Drink some warm milk

#11 Posted by TekTheNinja (776 posts) - - Show Bio

I completely agree.

#12 Posted by lifeofvibe (3766 posts) - - Show Bio

Bleeze with guy gardner? ah hell na bleez can do better

#13 Posted by DrunkVader (813 posts) - - Show Bio

i have a cute bunny for you :D

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#15 Posted by BumpyBoo (12258 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow. I finally understand why you hate this so much. It took a lot of reading - not really as familiar as I could be with the characters - but yes, I feel you <3

To take a character with such a dark, emotionally resonant past and cheapen them in this way is disgusting. Completely disgusting. And I am so glad that you wrote this. Too many female characters get reduced to this, to nothing more than vapid sex toys designed to boost the appeal and MACHO MANLINESS of other characters. And it sucks so, so much.

Right on, Joy <3

#16 Posted by RazzaTazz (11941 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: I just stopped reading that series. The first issues were so good, but then it went bad. It is too bad they didn't keep Bleez and Fatality from GLNG

#17 Posted by Joygirl (20848 posts) - - Show Bio

@razzatazz: That would be the best team-up ever. I'd just read a steady Bleez/Fatality: Galaxy's Finest title.

#18 Posted by RazzaTazz (11941 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: I was really hoping that they would, even if Bleez had to do something like join the Sapphires.

#19 Posted by Joygirl (20848 posts) - - Show Bio

@razzatazz: I've actually always wanted to see Bleez wearing a red and purple ring. Imagine how powerful she'd be? Then we could see her go back to the RLC and gobstomp Rankorr and humiliate him completely and utterly... God that'd be satisfying.

#20 Posted by Jake Fury (21339 posts) - - Show Bio

Saw Pasarin's version of Bleez. He did a lovely job...good job on Arisia too...

#21 Edited by Joygirl (20848 posts) - - Show Bio

@jake_fury: Yeah, Pasarin is the bomb. ^_^ Love that kinda hunched, "broken toy" vibe he gave her.

#22 Posted by RazzaTazz (11941 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl said:

@razzatazz: I've actually always wanted to see Bleez wearing a red and purple ring. Imagine how powerful she'd be? Then we could see her go back to the RLC and gobstomp Rankorr and humiliate him completely and utterly... God that'd be satisfying.

That would be fun, but it would never happen. It would be interesting if the Star Sapphires intervened against the stupidity of the RLC though. I see a Carol Ferris/Bleez/Fatality teamup, with maybe Soranik thrown in for some green.

#23 Posted by Joygirl (20848 posts) - - Show Bio

@razzatazz: I'd mention Arisia but IIRC Arisia hates Bleez.

Or no, wait, that was just something to do with rage in the air I think, made her and Kilowog both nuts.

#24 Posted by RazzaTazz (11941 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: How about any female corps member with a ring comes to Bleez to help her escape the bad writing?

#25 Posted by Joygirl (20848 posts) - - Show Bio

@razzatazz: That I like. Throw Iroque in there too. Have them be the Lady Lanterns.

#26 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (14404 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh Charles Soule, you stupid sunnuva bit$%.

#27 Posted by Joygirl (20848 posts) - - Show Bio
#28 Posted by mightyrearranger (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: I was going to do something like this about the New-52 Cyborg Superman, but then all my rage made me too tired to type it up. >.>

On a sidenote: What the hell has happened to Peter Milligan? Shade the Changing Man was one of the best works I've read, and his Scarecrow one-off was good stuff too, along with the rest of his Batman works. Now? Secret Seven was lame during Flashpoint, JL Dark was slow and plodding until Lemire took over, and well, this blog speaks volumes for his run on Red Lanterns. Either I've been revisiting JLA too much lately, or "Peter Milligan" has been a White Martian this whole time, making me think he can fix all the problems in the world and then making me ill and putting me in a weird flower-shaped torture device.

#29 Posted by Joygirl (20848 posts) - - Show Bio
#30 Posted by mightyrearranger (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: Bahaha, he picked a better name than A-Mortal, I'll give him that...

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#34 Edited by BumpyBoo (12258 posts) - - Show Bio

@lykopis: We are definitely on the same page ;)

#36 Posted by jrock85 (2882 posts) - - Show Bio

Dropped the book about a year ago. Didn't realize it had gotten this bad.

#37 Edited by Wowlock (384 posts) - - Show Bio

I was looking at Bleez and how she was written as she was an interesting Red lantern other than Atros. Then I saw this thread and it become '' Oh ...another strong female character got dominated - literally. '' I mean the twist with Guy would've been something more than that but Nooo.

I think Guy is the worst Green Lantern and it is absurd he beat Atros like that. What next, he is gonna beat Sinestro too ?

Although I would love to see more of Bleez's intellect and emotional side ( I mean going bananas everytime you see her wouldn't do her justice. She is more than that ) but these developements where she is being dominated by 2 plot-gods like Rankorr and Guy just reducing her into the ''Red Lantern Sex Doll'' whom which has to pair up with one of them in order to be relevant ...is just sad.

I mean I won't like, Bleez is one of the hottest characters there and her Red Lantern aura gives and extra kinkness but her backstory also makes this tragic. These developements takes all the wrong points of her.

#38 Posted by Joygirl (20848 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump for a new chapter.

#39 Posted by ARMIV2 (9202 posts) - - Show Bio

Continuity? LOL was dat?

#40 Edited by Avenging-X-Bolt (14404 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, I saw this in the previews. It pissed me off too.

#41 Edited by RomulusAugustus (276 posts) - - Show Bio

I wasn't aware of the extent of the sluttification. That's twisted. But hey, maybe if the series goes downhill even more, you'll get so angry you'll become a Red Lantern yourself :P. But in all seriousness, I hope this whole spying Gardner bit concludes itself soon. I want Big Red back, and I want Soule to respect how powerful the Reds used to be, Bleez and Atros specifically. They deserve better than what they've been given so far. Bleez specifically seems to have been metaphorically deuced on the worst. Not only is she significantly weaker, but they basically turned her into a slut. Despicable.

That said, the PISfest that was Gardner's win over Atrocitus was the most horrifying thing I've ever experienced in a comic. I had high hopes when he captured the Butcher for a few reasons, namely that being able the harness such a being without a ring is a substantial feat, and that, with the Butcher powering him, he would receive a significant power buff. But noooooooooo. Apparently none of the characters with any depth or value can receive any sort of benefit from the book made to follow their story.

I'm starting to lose hope in this book. I'll hold on if I see a solicit without Gardner's ugly mug in the near future.

#42 Posted by Celineness (153 posts) - - Show Bio

Well maybe Bleez will hook up with Supergirl and together they'll just murder everyone ever and fix all these terrible problems.

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