Should The Black Widow become a crime fighting partner for Spider-Man?

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#51 Edited by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2213 posts) - - Show Bio

Not if Dan Slott is writing.

#52 Edited by darthfury78 (760 posts) - - Show Bio

@martianmanhunterisbetterthancy said:

Not if Dan Slott is writing.

I doubt that Slott would ever do it to being with. If he did, it would not be very good. Let's be very glad that he never explored Peter's relationship with Carol Danvers as he would have destroyed that chemistry. Also, we will never see Peter Parker return as long as Slott's the writer. This means that Spock had better keep as far away from Natasha as possible because she would know that he's not Peter Parker.

I can see it happening soon considering what Black Widow had said to Spider-Man in in 8th issue of SSM. Black Cat is going with Daredevil, so it's a very interesting swap to see. Another reason to that is due to the fact that she's one of the first few heroines to have taken an interest in Spider-Man besides Black Cat, and Silver Sable.

Don't forget that Carol Danvers, Jessica Drew, and Jennifer Walters are interested in Peter Parker as well respectively for different reasons. But it is true that Natasha is one of the first heroine to have taken an interest in Spider-Man going as far back as when she was Madam Natasha working for the KGB. Spider-Man might have given her the inspiration to defect to the USA and become a heroine in her own right. And if she wasn't interested in Spider-Man, why was she so eager to learn the source of his powers?

#53 Posted by novi_homines (1330 posts) - - Show Bio

Daredevil.

#54 Posted by saiyan_earthling (5360 posts) - - Show Bio

@martianmanhunterisbetterthancy said:

Not if Dan Slott is writing.

I doubt that Slott would ever do it to being with. If he did, it would not be very good. Let's be very glad that he never explored Peter's relationship with Carol Danvers as he would have destroyed that chemistry. Also, we will never see Peter Parker return as long as Slott's the writer. This means that Spock had better keep as far away from Natasha as possible because she would know that he's not Peter Parker.

@saiyan_earthling said:

I can see it happening soon considering what Black Widow had said to Spider-Man in in 8th issue of SSM. Black Cat is going with Daredevil, so it's a very interesting swap to see. Another reason to that is due to the fact that she's one of the first few heroines to have taken an interest in Spider-Man besides Black Cat, and Silver Sable.

Don't forget that Carol Danvers, Jessica Drew, and Jennifer Walters are interested in Peter Parker as well respectively for different reasons. But it is true that Natasha is one of the first heroine to have taken an interest in Spider-Man going as far back as when she was Madam Natasha working for the KGB. Spider-Man might have given her the inspiration to defect to the USA and become a heroine in her own right. And if she wasn't interested in Spider-Man, why was she so eager to learn the source of his powers?

She only wanted to learn about Spider-Man's powers, so she can use it for her own benefit as a heroine. By combining the knowledge of Spider-Man's powers, with her own abilities, she'd be like the exact female version of Spider-Man.

#55 Posted by darthfury78 (760 posts) - - Show Bio

She only wanted to learn about Spider-Man's powers, so she can use it for her own benefit as a heroine. By combining the knowledge of Spider-Man's powers, with her own abilities, she'd be like the exact female version of Spider-Man.

And whose to say that Natasha isn't motivated at learning the source of Spidey's powers even now?

#56 Posted by Mercy_ (92257 posts) - - Show Bio

Still no.

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#57 Posted by PCN24454 (454 posts) - - Show Bio

Nah.

They have too different personalities and backgrounds/ages/morality/etc.

#58 Posted by darthfury78 (760 posts) - - Show Bio

@pcn24454 said:

Nah.

They have too different personalities and backgrounds/ages/morality/etc.

And that's what makes Black Widow and Spider-Man a great team. Having him with the Black Cat all the time is boring.

#59 Edited by God_Spawn (37180 posts) - - Show Bio

1 year later with the same name.

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#60 Posted by Strider92 (16032 posts) - - Show Bio

I can see it happening soon considering what Black Widow had said to Spider-Man in in 8th issue of SSM. Black Cat is going with Daredevil, so it's a very interesting swap to see. Another reason to that is due to the fact that she's one of the first few heroines to have taken an interest in Spider-Man besides Black Cat, and Silver Sable.

Given how Superior and Natasha are interacting a Team-up is pretty inevitable. Right now Natasha just thinks Pete has taken his morals down a notch not turned into an outright murdering psychopath. At some point there'll be a team-up to correct her misleading thoughts.

1 year later with the same name.


#61 Posted by God_Spawn (37180 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92: Totally meant to type same thing. Good catch.

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#62 Posted by saiyan_earthling (5360 posts) - - Show Bio

That reminds me, I wonder how Black Cat's gonna react to the Superior Spider-Man if they meet again.

#63 Edited by darthfury78 (760 posts) - - Show Bio

@saiyan_earthling said:

That reminds me, I wonder how Black Cat's gonna react to the Superior Spider-Man if they meet again.

I think that such a meeting is not likely to happen anytime soon. There was a reason why Slott wanted to get rid of Felicia. In the original version for Ends of the Earth, Felicia was to have died in Silver Sable's place. Considering that Dr. Octavius despised the Black Cat, he'll stay as far away from her as possible. This is why the Black Widow and Spider-Woman will assume the guest spot role that is reserved for the Black Cat. I would love to see Felicia in Hawkeye's world and Daredevil's in exchange for the Black Widow and Spider-Woman residing in Spider-Man's world.

#64 Posted by Primebonnick (1664 posts) - - Show Bio

i can see it happening would like it actually even if it would be short term. I would prefer she does it with parker and not doc oc though the same for silver sable and spiderwoman

#65 Posted by darthfury78 (760 posts) - - Show Bio

i can see it happening would like it actually even if it would be short term. I would prefer she does it with parker and not doc oc though the same for silver sable and spiderwoman

I would rather that Black Widow's relationship with Peter Parker remains on the friends level that would allow future writers to evolve their relationship in the same manner as Carol Danvers. No need to turn that friendship into a romantic relationship. It's important that Spidey and Natasha's friendship takes its time to develop and not turn into a crash and burn relationship as Marvel had done with Storm and Black Panther's marriage.

#67 Posted by Jimishim12 (313 posts) - - Show Bio

Sure, his best friends at this point are Wolverine and Deadpool, so her being a different sort of moral edge won't bother Parker in the slightest. She can be like a Mentor or a Big Sis type of veteran to Parker somewhat.

#68 Posted by darthfury78 (760 posts) - - Show Bio

Sure, his best friends at this point are Wolverine and Deadpool, so her being a different sort of moral edge won't bother Parker in the slightest. She can be like a Mentor or a Big Sis type of veteran to Parker somewhat.

I could see Natasha as a mentor to Spider-Man. I very much doubt that Natasha wants to play the role of big sister because she would rather have him as a partner with a certain amount of sexual tension between them. That was what Spider-Woman x Carol Danvers were displaying whenever they were around Peter Parker respectively.

#69 Posted by Jimishim12 (313 posts) - - Show Bio

Nah, Natasha is like a big sis type than a flirty type with Spidey IMO. I don't get why people say they wouldn't be great partners because there opposites, Spidey is best allies with Daredevil and Wolverine and they foil him more than any character marvel has paired him with. Deadpool is literally bizzaro spidey gone assassin, and he pairs up with Peter as a common special team up for popularity reasons.

Seriously, Widow is like Sable with more experience and more patience. She and Spidey would be better than her and hawkeye, she is probably the only heroine that can rival Spidey's agility and keep up with him for a short while and like her and hawkeye can actually lighten her mood with his blunt yet earnest sense of humor but Spidey talks a lot compared to hawkeye.

#70 Posted by darthfury78 (760 posts) - - Show Bio

A personal message from Dan Slott about the idea of Spider-Man in a relationship with a super heroine:

Darthfury78,

I know it's a favorite subject of yours. But, honestly, Peter Parker hooking up w/ a super hero just isn't going to happen-- same for a character that's deeply entrenched in another book/universe/dimension's continuity. The main reasons are (though I know you don't agree...)

1. It takes something out of the soap opera column of Peter Parker's life-- and puts it onto the Spider-Man side.

Part of the fun of a monthly Spider-Man title is watching the juxtaposition of Peter's normal life and his Spider-Man life. If you borrow such a big piece from the Peter-side and place it on the Spidey-side, you really don't leave that much for Peter to do.

2. It makes Spidey's super hero life a little easier too-- by having such easy, quick access to another hero.

3. Other continuities/dimensions/titles having such a large effect on Peter Parker's personal life is, at times, a little to "inside baseball" and intimidating to both new readers and fans who JUST want to read about Spidey in his own book.

While a super villain/super hero romance might be a fun shake up in the short term-- trust me-- you are NOT going to see a relationship like that happening as an ongoing status quo.

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