Black Widow Movie Won't Get in the Way of Avengers

Posted by No_name_here (330 posts) - - Show Bio
 Wait your turn, Natalie. It's coming...

“We've already started discussions with Scarlett about the idea of a solo movie and have begun putting together concepts, but "The Avengers" comes first.”

So spoke Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige at a recent press conference marking the release of IRON MAN 2 on Blu-Ray (transcribed at SHH.) As you Comic Vine maniacs likely know, Marvel has been talking about bringing Scarlett Johansson back for an entire movie about Natasha Romanova sometime down the line. Seeing as how absurdly ambitious it is to do a mega-crossover AVENGERS movie already, I’m glad that the studio isn’t putting the cart before the horse when it comes to all the subsequent spin-offs.

Ironically, talks of a BLACK WIDOW have been around for long time already - - longer than talk of this AVENGERS movie, actually. You might recall that David “Solid Snake” Hayter wrote a script a while back for a solo movie that never materialized (although he did name his daughter after the super-spy!) Out of Marvel’s heroes and heroines, I’d imagine that this character would be an easiest to make a movie for. It’d be just a step up a regular spy movie, without the copious CG and creature effects that these superhero movies usually entail. == TEASER ==

Another question is whether a superheroine movie could even work on its own. People weren’t feeling CATWOMAN or ELEKTRA, and we know how long it’s taken the WONDER WOMAN movie to take off from Paradise Island. Do you figure Natasha (or Natalie, as she’s known) would be facing an uphill battle hereor could she be the first, so to speak, to crack the code?

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#1 Posted by Dr. Detfink (459 posts) - - Show Bio

Geezus, why bother with the background. It's just so slapped together. Just take a shot of Scarlett's head lights which is what any kid 12+ cares about.

#2 Posted by ckal (1097 posts) - - Show Bio

Better not get in the way of 

Doctor Strange (live action)
Iron Fist
Nova (no plans for it that I've heard I just want one)
Black Panther 
 
either.

#3 Edited by ckal (1097 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know how good a Black Widow movie would be on her own, but throw in Hawkeye and probably some S.H.I.E.L.D. too and it could probably be a cool/good movie.

#4 Posted by ComicMan24 (147032 posts) - - Show Bio

Never heard of that before. I guess it could work if done right.

#5 Posted by Mumbles (843 posts) - - Show Bio

Really? this movie will follow the great elektra spin off.

#6 Posted by SupremoMaximo (202 posts) - - Show Bio

SO basically "Covert Ops" or "Nikita"??? 
 
On paper it could work if it's made Jason Bourne style.. But dudes want to see dudes blow things up and kick butt..

#7 Posted by Remixxx (11 posts) - - Show Bio

Really??? Black Widow?  Not a bad idea all they gotta do is improve on Salt's (Angelina Joile Movie) shortcomings and they got themselves a hit.

#8 Edited by Gylan Thomas (2662 posts) - - Show Bio

"Another question is whether a superheroine movie could even work on its own. People weren’t feeling CATWOMAN or ELEKTRA, and we know how long it’s taken the WONDER WOMAN movie to take off from Paradise Island. Do you figure Natasha (or Natalie, as she’s known) would be facing an uphill battle hereor could she be the first, so to speak, to crack the code?"
 
It's not about cracking a code or weather or not people want to see superheroines go solo.
Catwoman was a complete travesty with no relation at all to the source material. Elektra wasn't much better. The character was completely off.
 
Both movies were terrible. It's a simple question of making a decent movie. These days the creators seem to have a better handle on things than when Catwoman or Elektra were made.

#9 Posted by Shanana (53436 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd be sold on the idea, if  Scarlett uses Russian...

#10 Posted by conformist21 (411 posts) - - Show Bio
@ckal said:
" I don't know how good a Black Widow movie would be on her own, but throw in Hawkeye and probably some S.H.I.E.L.D. too and it could probably be a cool/good movie. "
#11 Posted by Green ankh (998 posts) - - Show Bio

CATWOMAN or ELEKTRA were judt bad films. It had nothing to do with anything else.
#12 Posted by ArachKnight (162 posts) - - Show Bio
@ckal said:
"Better not get in the way of  Doctor Strange (live action) Iron Fist Nova (no plans for it that I've heard I just want one)Black Panther   either. "


I am pacing back and forth - "please don't suck, please don't suck"  
 
I am nervous though because the public will see it as an Iron Man 2 Spin off. Which could put it at a disadvantage - and the powerful female super spy is nothing new to movie goers.  
 
 
THOSE other projects would NOT be as good as a well done Ms.Marvel Movie. I am so sick of Hollywood's pickle party of super hero movies.
#13 Posted by ckal (1097 posts) - - Show Bio
@ArachKnight said:
" @ckal said:
"Better not get in the way of  Doctor Strange (live action) Iron Fist Nova (no plans for it that I've heard I just want one)Black Panther   either. "
I am pacing back and forth - "please don't suck, please don't suck"   I am nervous though because the public will see it as an Iron Man 2 Spin off. Which could put it at a disadvantage - and the powerful female super spy is nothing new to movie goers.    THOSE other projects would NOT be as good as a well done Ms.Marvel Movie. I am so sick of Hollywood's pickle party of super hero movies. "
I don't think it will have that against it by the time it comes out (if it actually does). By then, Avengers will have already come out, and people will mostly associate Black Widow with that movie at that point I would think. Then, if you put in Hawkeye and some S.H.I.E.L.D. stuff, it doesn't have to be a BW solo movie, or even called BW. It would be some kind of small team up movie. I think Hawkeye and BW would be really cool on screen.
 
Haha well why do you say that? I get what you are saying about mostly male super hero movies, but that's sort of the way it is in comics. Most of the big name or most popular/well known heroes are male. I also think that for much of the general movie going audience, a male super hero is much more easy to believe than a female superhero. I'm not saying this, but this is how I think most people feel about it. Yes, there are definitely some good female super heroes, and some deserve their own movie.
But, I
1) think after movies like Catwoman and Elektra,  nobody really wanted to give them another chance. But hopefully now, Marvel will usher in what a good female superhero movie is supposed to be, and that will open the door for others.  
2) Don't forget, Marvel is just starting out their run as their own studio. They are still getting their most popular characters (that they still own the rights to) out there first. It wouldn't make sense to make a Ms. Marvel would before Captain America for example.
#14 Edited by Jordanstine (895 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Widow had one of the best and most entertaining fight scenes in Iron Man 2
 
I approve of this thread! 
 
P.S. 
A sort of Jason Bourne type movie would be jaw dropping!    
#15 Posted by GraveSp (314 posts) - - Show Bio

How about we don't over saturate the movie market with every person getting their own movie.  

#16 Posted by WW-Fan (2728 posts) - - Show Bio

it will be awesome! i would so go to see it! and She was the Best Part in Iron Man 2 :D
#17 Posted by Bloodstonefreak (137 posts) - - Show Bio

How about we have Marvel bring back Hayter and we have an AMAZING film?!?!

#18 Posted by DH69 (4193 posts) - - Show Bio

why?

#19 Posted by War Killer (20285 posts) - - Show Bio

I love the character of Black Widow, even though her role wasn't as needed in IM2, I still loved her in the film. And since they didn't really tell anything about her, not even stating her as Black Widow, anywhere in Iron Man, I would like to see her charecter shine a little more on the big screen, I could see it being more of a 007 type film, but still having that superhero feel to it which would be awesome! ^_^

#20 Posted by Lustwish (531 posts) - - Show Bio

Who cares if they even make it, just gonna end up like Catwoman.  Lost.

#21 Posted by ComicCrazy (1505 posts) - - Show Bio

People really didn't like her performance as Black Widow but I thought it was fine and did well with she had and I think a Black Widow movie would be a fine thing to do. So I would really like it to happen but hey.
#22 Posted by wooodude1 (106 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sha: I'd be sold if there was a strip scene
#23 Posted by Journey Into Chaos (319 posts) - - Show Bio

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#24 Posted by mickoreo_LZ (250 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it would be more successful than the other super heroine movies because it'll be riding the coattails of Iron Man 2 and the Avengers. Its only smart to release a Black Widow movie after she's appeared in two fairly big movies
#25 Posted by bingbangboom (735 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it would work because it is an easier concept to handle plus could really flesh out the character of where she came from, hopefully they stay close to her origin. I wonder if they would even work the Winter Solider into it, maybe? Also there have been some recent action movies lead by females that have made their money back like Salt and Resident Evil: Afterlife. Before it was pretty much doomed if it had a female lead in an action movie. People enjoyed the character so we shall see but given that she doesn't have any sort of powers, that will also keep the budget down. If it is cheap to make, they will do it.

#26 Posted by Eyz (3042 posts) - - Show Bio

I haven't checked a Black Widow solo comic either...so a solo movie..?...mmmh... : /

#27 Posted by ChivalrousMike (1 posts) - - Show Bio

If I was asked to make this movie I would make the Black Widow a tenth degree black belt in wing tsung martial arts, something to watch!  

#28 Posted by WhimsyWitch (4 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Black Widow is one of the few female heroines Marvel has produced that could hold her own movie. She's a stronger solo character than Catwoman and Elektra, and I actually think ScarJo did a decent job as Natasha. People kept complaining that she didn't have a Russian accent, but I guess they forgot that 90% of her film time in that movie was with her as undercover. I don't even think a Russian accent is the most important part of her character to begin with, and I've been a fan of Black Widow since I was twelve.
 
If they do a stand-alone movie, I have a feeling it'll probably involve Yelena Belova (Black Widow II). That's her most famous stand-alone story to date (or, that's what I think anyway). I'm not dreading this movie if it comes out. Looking forward to it, actually.

#29 Posted by mhanson108 (15 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with the Bourne style, and a  Black Widow movie would blow the failed female flicks out of the water.

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