Hudlin vs Priest vs Kirby

#1 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio
Who's Black Panther is the best?

Hudlin
Priest
Kirby
#2 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio

Kirby is great but Priest did the best persona of the Black Panther.

Powerful and Noble.

#3 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

Priest brought depth and definition to BP that will be echoed by others for yeads to come. Texeria's design is my favorite. Some pics from Guissepe Camuncoli where BP has golsd Bracers and talons is up there too.

Kirby and Lee's BP was done with enough respect and potential for Priest to come to the conclusion's he did in the characterization of BP so they are key to any BP let alone a good one.

Hudlin's has some cool things but......Priest is the one.

#4 Posted by TheDrifter (26563 posts) - - Show Bio

Kirby and Lee.

#5 Posted by T.J. Magnum (27685 posts) - - Show Bio

Priest

#6 Posted by Villelater (1307 posts) - - Show Bio
TheDrifter said:
"Kirby and Lee."
Jack Kirby and Stan Lee?
#7 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio
TheDrifter said:
"Kirby and Lee."
You should read Volume 3 and repost.

#8 Posted by Buckshot (18678 posts) - - Show Bio
Sling Shot said:
"Priest brought depth and definition to BP that will be echoed by others for yeads to come. Texeria's design is my favorite. Some pics from Guissepe Camuncoli where BP has golsd Bracers and talons is up there too.

Kirby and Lee's BP was done with enough respect and potential for Priest to come to the conclusion's he did in the characterization of BP so they are key to any BP let alone a good one.

Priest is the one."
QFT
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#9 Posted by Black Lion (6 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Don McGregor should be added to that list. He was the first person to write a long term solo Black Panther series. I enjoyed reading Jungle Action, even if it got a little heavy handed with it's descriptions at times. It read like a novel instead of a comic, but it was really poetic.

I've only read a few issues of Kirby's run, and I'll eventually finish it in the next week or so. I really don't want to pass judgment on it yet, but it seems really corny. lol The art of course is good looking.

What more can be said about Priest's series? Brilliant storytelling, great dialogue and characterization. Comedy that didn't come across as forced, and intelligent story arcs. He made T'Challa a badass without sacrificing others to do it. Plus T'Challa was seen as a master strategist like a king of an advanced nation should be. Plus we get great villains like Achebe, Killmonger, Klaw, Man-Ape, and Black Dragon. It got a little weird at the end, but the series is great despite that.

Hudlin..........what hasn't been said about his run? I'm not a "hudlin basher." I just call things the way I see them, and Hudlin's run was terrible. Everything that was great about Priest's run was totally opposite in Hudlin's run. Instead of intelligent dialogue we get 12 year old banter. Instead of beautifully crafted stories we get horribly executed ideas. What makes it worse is Hudlin's "f*ck you" style approach to everything. If you don't like his series then you're a stupid, ignorant, bitter, racist Priest fanboy that doesn't get it. So a black kid who's favorite character is a powerful African king now all of a sudden has a problem with a black man having power? I've tried my best to give the man chance after chance, but his writing is pure garbage. His ideas are overrated too. So a man is going to send hundreds of ninjas(with pistols!) to kidnap a guy he wants to marry his daughter? How the hell is that a good idea? I'm not trying to bash, but Hudlin has done a sh*tload of harm to BP.


Priest easily is the best if you ask me. No other writer has done more for the Black Panther than he. He didn't have  much to work from, but he still created something special. I only wish that Marvel decided to push his series better, because most people who knew about it enjoyed it.

#10 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio

Hudlin.

*ducks*

#11 Posted by Black Lion (6 posts) - - Show Bio
Zoom said:
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Hudlin.

*ducks*

"
Hey man it's your opinion. While I'll disagree with you, I won't throw any shoes at you George Bush style.............I'll just throw grenades! lol
#12 Posted by avengpymhawk (371 posts) - - Show Bio

Don McGregor brought the Panther to life, while Priest modernized him. So it is a tiie with me. Both writers made great stories for the character.

#13 Posted by Zoom (14668 posts) - - Show Bio
Black Lion said:
"Zoom said:
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Hudlin.

*ducks*

"
Hey man it's your opinion."
Its really not. ;-)

I hate Hudlin.
#14 Posted by SuperXAsh (527 posts) - - Show Bio

I like anything that doesn't have Hudlin's name attached to it. He's made Black Panther into an almost intentional parody of everything that's come before it and pretty much a god-mode sue.

#15 Posted by SuperXAsh (527 posts) - - Show Bio

I like anything that doesn't have Hudlin's name attached to it. He's made Black Panther into an almost intentional parody of everything that's come before it and pretty much a god-mode sue.

#16 Posted by Mykhael (67 posts) - - Show Bio

Priest. Withour a doubt and yes, I know this is old.

#17 Posted by Umbraa (912 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked, Priest the best. But I think Hudlin is sold short. Without him, T'challa could have been Black Goliath. Just saying.

#18 Posted by Mykhael (67 posts) - - Show Bio

I have all Hudlins stuff and do not hate him by any stretch, I support what he was trying to do, BUT his flaws and lack of quality stories, inconsistency and rectons kind of piss me off a bit.

#19 Posted by Vance Astro (91403 posts) - - Show Bio

I think there is a general concensus for Priest's run.

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#20 Posted by windcaster (228 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it's important to say that while a good many people did not like  Hudlin's run( including myself) he did have the highest selling run ever. Reach out more to an African American audience seemed to work. I think that  his best  characterization was  Deadliest of the Species. On a side not I know no one liked that T'challa was depowered but Maberry does not get the respect he deserves.    

#21 Posted by Mykhael (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@windcaster: The problem wasn't that he reached out to black people it was that he alienated white people in the process. Getting mass appeal doesn't mean one or the other, I wish Hudlin realized that before he did.

#22 Posted by Genki_Sudo (55 posts) - - Show Bio

While they were all good( op's of course will range from great to terrible ) I pick Priest as that was the first version of the character I read and fell in love with in comic form before moving onto Hudlin then back tracking.

I also believe Liss should be added as I really love his run as well as he took a bad idea and made the damn thing work

#23 Posted by windcaster (228 posts) - - Show Bio
@Mykhael: How exactly did he  alienate  white people? I think I get what your saying but I want o get your full opinion. 
 
@Genki_Sudo: Yea Liss did do a great job. What I liked about his run was that not only was it reminiscent of Priest he did something Priest didn't do he showed his readers how T'challa thinks. 
#24 Edited by blkson (785 posts) - - Show Bio

Old thread but yeah...

  1. Christopher Priest: The best interpretation of T'Challa's personality. Priest's Panther was not the arrogant king that most people currently know T'Challa to be. This mainly due to Hudlin's & Jason Aaron's writing. However, Texira's character design for T'Challa was GOD awful!! Priest's Panther was extremely complex & a strategist and I now know why his run is known as the "definitive" Black Panther.
  2. Kirby: Laid the blueprint for McGregor & Priest. Kirby's Panther is no doubt the most fun and enjoyable read. Maybe its the nostalgia effect but out all the writer of Black Panther, non them were fun reads. However, didn't expand upon the T'Challa outside of being a street-level hero enough.
  3. Don McGregor: One of the best story arcs of the Black Panther mythos came from Jungle Action and it was amazing.
  4. Hudlin: The gift of Shuri, which was probably the BEST thing from his run. Hudlin wrote Panther as if the reader was a 3rd grader. His Panther was also kinda arrogant.

No other writer has done right by the Black Panther than the top 3 guys; and no one has defined the Black Panther mythos like all 4 of these guys.

Although, the way Johnathan Hickman is currently writing T'Challa over in New Avenger: Illuminati (2013), he might replace Hudlin on my list.

#25 Edited by blkson (785 posts) - - Show Bio

@windcaster said:

I think it's important to say that while a good many people did not like Hudlin's run( including myself) he did have the highest selling run ever. Reach out more to an African American audience seemed to work. I think that his best characterization was Deadliest of the Species. On a side not I know no one liked that T'challa was depowered but Maberry does not get the respect he deserves.

I think this is largely due to the era it was written in. Art was higher quality and the digital age allowed more folk to spread the word.

#26 Posted by Veshark (9058 posts) - - Show Bio

Priest. Hudlin's kinda sucked. Liking how Hickman's using him in New Avengers and earlier in FF, though.

#27 Posted by PassionFlower (963 posts) - - Show Bio

There are things I liked Priest did and things I didn't same as Hudlin. I think Priest was a lot better writer but I liked Hudlin's vision (if not his talent). I wish McDuffie had written him longer I appreciate his BP in FF more and more. I'm enjoying Hickman's version better than any to be honest.

#28 Posted by GrenadeFlow (1666 posts) - - Show Bio

Priest > Mcgregor > Liss > Kirby > Maberry > piss > Hudlin.

Hudlin almost ruined Black Panther for me, I stopped reading BP books till Liss did the Hell's kitchen book then I went back and read Maberry's run. Hickman writes my second favorite Black Panther after Priest though, he might even move up to #1 if he keeps writing him like this.

#29 Posted by lukecharles777 (8 posts) - - Show Bio

Hudlin made BP a king that fan boys love to hate. He sold well Priest is always put on a pedestal and I think he wrote well although he did have a strange style. Priest did not sell and got all kinds of flack from fan boys during his run. Under Priests run BP beat mind controlled Iron Fist nearly killed Iron Man, knocked down Namor with a punch and talked of having a contingency plan for Galactus. Many also hated the angle that Tchalla joined the Avengers was to spy on them. He even established a relationship with Storm . Any one of these things would have driven fanboys crazy if Hudlin had done them. The big difference is that they always had Everett K Ross speak for the BP which Priest did to appease fanboys.

#30 Edited by GrenadeFlow (1666 posts) - - Show Bio

Hudlin made BP a king that fan boys love to hate. He sold well Priest is always put on a pedestal and I think he wrote well although he did have a strange style. Priest did not sell and got all kinds of flack from fan boys during his run. Under Priests run BP beat mind controlled Iron Fist nearly killed Iron Man, knocked down Namor with a punch and talked of having a contingency plan for Galactus. Many also hated the angle that Tchalla joined the Avengers was to spy on them. He even established a relationship with Storm . Any one of these things would have driven fanboys crazy if Hudlin had done them. The big difference is that they always had Everett K Ross speak for the BP which Priest did to appease fanboys.

Hudlin also brought in the racial rubbish. He ruined or ignored all the good stuff Priest did in his run before Hudlin and frankly he sucked at writing BP.

#31 Posted by Son_Of_Tchalla (33 posts) - - Show Bio

Priest for sure.

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