Black Panther vs. Luke Cage: Who Would Win?

Posted by Cage_2913_69 (64 posts) - - Show Bio

I have a question for you guys. Who do you think would win in a battle. Black Panther or Luke Cage?

Luke Cage Info:

Luke Cage (named Carl Lucas at birth) was raised in the slums of Harlem, New York. He spent his childhood in a gang called The Rivals along with his friendWillis Stryker. Lucas engaged in many gang fights with The Diablos, a rival gang. He also committed petty crimes and worked for a crime lord named Sonny Caputo.

Origin

Eventually, Lucas was put through the juvenile justice system and realized the pain he was causing his family. He changed his ways and in his adulthood, he joined The NYPD ( New York City Police Department) as a police officer. Willis Stryker rose through the ranks of crime. Stryker's actions brought the anger of The Maggia, a New York crime syndicate, upon Willis. The Maggia ordered a hit on Willis and he was badly injured, only to be saved by Carl Lucas. Stryker's girlfriend Reva Conners grows fearful of Willis' line of work. She breaks up with him and finds comfort in Carl Lucas. Willis then believes that Lucas is the one responsible for the break up between him and Reva. In revenge, he planted drugs in Lucas' Harlem apartment and tipped off the cops. Lucas is then wrongly convicted and imprisoned.

Powers

As a result of volunteering for a chemical experiment involving AVX, Luke Cage possesses formidable superhuman capabilities. His physical attributes have all been enhanced to much higher levels. Cage possesses superhuman strength which allows him to lift up to 25 tons. He has considerable stamina which allows him to perform strenuous work without taxing himself for extended periods of time. Luke has nigh impenetrable skin, which can protect him from high caliber bullets, knife wounds, and powerful explosions. His durability is great enough for him to withstand blows from opponents possessing great superhuman strength. However, Luke's durability does not extend beyond his skin layer, as his internal body parts are not nearly as well protected. Thus, as he may be all but invulnerable externally, his interior parts can still be damaged if he is attacked with enough force. In addition to his heightened durability, Cage also has greatly accelerated healing which affords him the ability to recover from injuries and damage much faster.

Black Panther Info:

Wakanda

The Black Panther is the ruler of Wakanda. Citizens of the country are members of a spiritually-based warrior cult, which gives the leader of the country spiritual, political and military authority. The Panther is a hereditary title, but one still has to earn it. The series of test that a Panther must pass are so arduous that only candidates who've had special training from childhood can qualify. But just so everyone gets a chance, once a year there's a day when any Wakandan can challenge the king for the throne. T'Challa being the son of T'Chaka put him in line to be the next King of Wakanda and Black Panther, but even as young super genius T'Challa was not yet ready to become the leader of the nation, but felt his childhood ended the day his father die and that it was time to start act as a King would. So S'yan, T'Chaka's young brother & T'Challa's uncle under took the Black Panther trials. S'yan passed and became the Black Panther. During his youth, T'Challa while on his Wakandan Walkabout/Rite of passage met and fell in love with apparent orphaned teen named Ororo Munroe, and later known as a member of the X-Men, Storm. The two broke off there relationship off due to his need to avenge his father’s death & to become the type of man who could lead the nation of Wakanda, but they would see each other over the years when they could. After studying Wakanda young T'Challa traveled around the world to learn, study and train.

Powers

Thanks to the Heart Shaped Herb , T'Challa has enhanced speed, agility, strength, endurance, healing and senses. All of these attributes have been raised to near superhuman levels. With his enhanced senses the Black Panther can see in complete and total darkness as if it was bright as day, and can see something 100 feet as if it were right in front of him. With his sense of smell he can track someone across a continent with his sense of smell, memorize tens of thousands of smells and can detect fear lies in a person. He can hear things that normal humans can't as well as sounds that they can, but at a distance not possible with normal ears. He can hear the breathing and heartbeats of enemies. With his sense of taste he can determine any ingredients in anything he eats. He can use his senses together to sometimes predict his opponent's moves ahead of time.

The Heart Shaped Herb also created a connection between T'Challa and thePanther God, the deity his people worship. On top of all his powers, T'Challa is a skilled martial artist. He learned to fight both at home (from the best warriors in Wakanda) and abroad. When he was still a teenager he traveled the whole world to learn various skills, some academic and others focused on physical combat.

Captain America entered Wakanda during World War Two on a search-and-destroy mission. He was hunting Nazis who were out to exploit Wakandan science. Cap didn't know the Wakandans had already beheaded the Nazis days ago. Black Panther (Azzari the Wise)and Cap had an extended hand-to-hand battle. And Cap lost.

In addition to all his physical strengths, the Black Panther is an intellectual giant, he's one of the eight smartest people on the planet and in the marvel universe. Not only is he recognized for his brilliance by his peers across the seas, he's one of the smartest of his own people, which is impressive considering that his nation holds some of the smartest people in the world.

T'Challa is a scientist, an engineer, an inventor, a aviator, a weapons designer and a tactical and strategical genius. It is T'Challa who designed the Avengers Quinjet, and the Wakanda Design Group built it. T'Challa is also the religious leader of his people. He has access to the wisdom of the previous Wakandan chieftains, whose souls dwell in the Panther Pavilion, a holy temple within the city. Once he even encountered and fought the embodiment of his God/Tribal Totem The Panther God when it manifested to test his worthiness to remain the tribal leader and to also punish him for maintaining a policy of neutrality toward South Africa during Apartheid in the 1980's.

So who do you think would win?

#1 Posted by Hatutzeraze (269 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Luke, but c'mon! Cage isn't remotely in T'Challa's class. Easily Black Panther.

#2 Posted by funckygarcon (266 posts) - - Show Bio

T'Challa can predict his opponent moves through his heightened senses + he defeated Captain America (Roger) in a hand to hand fight (Captain is considered the best hand to hand fighter in Marvel) + he is much more stronger and agile than Luke = Curstomp !!!

#3 Posted by WarMachineMarkV (1214 posts) - - Show Bio

- The only way Cage wins is if he catches Panther without his costume or tech, even then Panther very well might just get away before getting hit hard enough to take him down.

- Suited up Panther should pretty much own Cage

#4 Posted by Mega_spidey01 (3078 posts) - - Show Bio

black panther would win smarter, better fighter, and a badass dude.

#5 Posted by Hatutzeraze (269 posts) - - Show Bio

@funckygarcon said:

he is much more stronger and agile than Luke = Curstomp !!!

Well, let's give credit where credit is due. T'Challa's shouldn't actually be stronger than Cage. I have never seen any evidence to suggest that. Cage can throw cars and punch through walls without much effort. I agree that T'Challa is stronger than peak human, but certainly not stronger than Luke Cage.

#6 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

T'challa just beat Luke Cage a couple of months back by easily applying a pressure point on him knocking him unconscious. It was pretty sad tbh...

#7 Posted by funckygarcon (266 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hatutzeraze: i didn't mean stronger in the way of strength, i meant it in a general way. by breaking down BP's abilities and Luke Cage's Abilities, u know easily that BP is far better overall than Cage.

#8 Posted by Hatutzeraze (269 posts) - - Show Bio

@funckygarcon said:

@Hatutzeraze: i didn't mean stronger in the way of strength, i meant it in a general way. by breaking down BP's abilities and Luke Cage's Abilities, u know easily that BP is far better overall than Cage.

Ooops! Sorry, man. I misunderstood.

#9 Posted by BlackArmor (6137 posts) - - Show Bio

@Mega_spidey01 said:

black panther would win smarter, better fighter, and a badass dude.

#10 Posted by funckygarcon (266 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hatutzeraze: don't worry, my reply was kinda confusing. Luke is far more stronger in terms of physical strength but BP is better overall. it would be a good fight though :)

#11 Posted by Juggy313 (110 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke would pwn BP if it was a random fight..

#12 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio
@Juggy313 said:

Luke would pwn BP if it was a random fight..

No he wouldn't. 
This happened about 4-5 months ago and B.P had him down in less than 5 seconds. 
No prep. No weapons. No Vibranium
#13 Posted by Alchemist_ (114 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre-Doom War Black Panther with his regular equipment could beat Cage.

#14 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio
@Alchemist_ said:
Pre-Doom War Black Panther with his regular equipment could beat Cage.
Post beat him.  
No equipment.... 
 
Did anyone at all read that series?
#15 Posted by Alchemist_ (114 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kallarkz said:
@Alchemist_ said:
Pre-Doom War Black Panther with his regular equipment could beat Cage.
Post beat him.  No equipment....  Did anyone at all read that series?
The idea that nerve strikes work on Luke Cage is nonsense, so yea I read it but i'm purposely ignoring it.
#16 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio
@Alchemist_ said:
@Kallarkz said:
@Alchemist_ said:
Pre-Doom War Black Panther with his regular equipment could beat Cage.
Post beat him.  No equipment....  Did anyone at all read that series?
The idea that nerve strikes work on Luke Cage is nonsense, so yea I read it but i'm purposely ignoring it.
How convenient. 
And it makes perfect sense.  
He is not some superman character...he only has invulnerable skin. 
Heck even his organs can still be damaged. 
 
What makes you think he no longer has nerves?
#17 Posted by Alchemist_ (114 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kallarkz said:
How convenient. And it makes perfect sense.  He is not some superman character...he only has invulnerable skin. Heck even his organs can still be damaged.  What makes you think he no longer has nerves?
He has nerves but his durability should subtract the damage.
#18 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not quite sure you understand how his durability works. He only has steel skin. Black pather is at peak human levels (equal to captain America) And yet for some reason Luke cage is so great he can withstand him... Nothing he has done would show that. It makes perfect sense he would be susceptible to nerve damage and pressure points

#19 Edited by Alchemist_ (114 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kallarkz said:

I'm not quite sure you understand how his durability works. He only has steel skin. Black pather is at peak human levels (equal to captain America) And yet for some reason Luke cage is so great he can withstand him... Nothing he has done would show that. It makes perfect sense he would be susceptible to nerve damage and pressure points

Unlike many characters that simply have superhuman durability, Cage's skin is different than that of other class 25 powerhouses. His skin is hardened and is supposed to have the consistency of titanium or steel..a really hard metal. The idea that you can hit a nerve through that and cause damage, doesn't make any sense.
#20 Posted by Mega_spidey01 (3078 posts) - - Show Bio

bp would win plain and simple. he's just that good. luke cage can't even take on ant-man(scott lang as shown in the avengers emh or namor.

#21 Edited by Juggy313 (110 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz: Luke Wasn't fighting back.. If Luke wanted to KO BP he would... Luke Cage has one shotted Rhino, went head to head with Hulk, Namor, and Wonderman... And has knocked out people like Wrecker and Orka(almost class 100).. He also beat through Dr. Dooms armor... It's no way he'll lose to someone who can barely lift a 800 measly lbs..

#22 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke is a cocky fighter. Tchalla is the eight smartest man in the world. There is a lot more to fighting than mere strength.

#23 Posted by Alchemist_ (114 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kallarkz said:
Luke is a cocky fighter. 
Depends on who's writing him.
#24 Posted by Spidey_Guy1 (62 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Panther would triumph over Luke Cage any day. A street fighter will never beat a king with such a huge advantage. Someone please get in touch with Reggie Hudlin and ask him to bring T'Challa back to greatest. His stint in Hell's kitchen was good, but he's better than that.

#25 Posted by ManMartianhunter (33 posts) - - Show Bio

@Juggy313: t'challa would still beat LC by using his multiple fighting styles and advanced gear....plus BP's superior intellect and the ability to know an opponent's moves b4 they happen automatically puts him WAY ahead of LC. even as a LC fan i give it toBP easy...and it doesn't matter who he went toe to toe with!

#26 Posted by Silver Zeal (202 posts) - - Show Bio

@Alchemist_:

If DD can tk down Cage in hand-2-hand den it wd b a walk in d park 4 BP.

#27 Posted by Arkhamc1tizen (2140 posts) - - Show Bio

black panther hands down

#28 Posted by blackpanther1 (87 posts) - - Show Bio

@funckygarcon: LMAO are you kidding since when has T'challa been stronger than luke cage. I agree that Black panther would win but he is no where near Luke cage's strength level

#29 Posted by funckygarcon (266 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackpanther1 said:

@funckygarcon: LMAO are you kidding since when has T'challa been stronger than luke cage. I agree that Black panther would win but he is no where near Luke cage's strength level

would u please read my previous reply? it goes something like this:-

i didn't mean stronger in the way of strength, i meant it in a general way. by breaking down BP's abilities and Luke Cage's Abilities, u know easily that BP is far better overall than Cage.

#30 Posted by PassionFlower (960 posts) - - Show Bio

T'Challa would handle him (unless Bendis wrote it) and I actually like Luke.

#31 Posted by ChildoftheAtom (490 posts) - - Show Bio

Black panther takes this one 9.5/10

#32 Edited by GrenadeFlow (1411 posts) - - Show Bio

T'Challa would handle him (unless Bendis wrote it) and I actually like Luke.

lol so true

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