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Marvel Divas #1 Reviewed

Topic started by G-Man on July 3, 2009. Last post by xerox-kitty 3 months, 3 weeks ago.
Post by Dex (373 posts) See mini bio

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wait so theres no pillow fights......=(


Post by The Messanger (51 posts) See mini bio

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I don't like Sex and the City either!!


Post by MrDirector786 (3,617 posts) See mini bio

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From this review, it sounds boring.


Post by Nahero (9,919 posts) See mini bio

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that last joke was horrible


Post by DMC (409 posts) See mini bio

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IDK  the book was okay I guess. Until comic readers are more open to slice-of-life comics a book like this could never survive as an ongoing. At least Marvel Divas is just a mini.

@xerox-kitty
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 This wasn't characterisation based.  This was just a bunch of vacuous bimbos strutting around trying to feel sexy.
And to top it off... it doesn't fit in anywhere in regular continuity.  Emma Frost had mysteriously moved back to New York and was still wearing her skimpy outfit from 4 or 5 years ago.  Yet Firestar had retired.  And Brother Voodoo wasn't Sorcerer Supreme.  Is it too hard for an editorial team to ask for these minor changes to be made to bring it in line with the rest of the Marvel Universe."
Does any book fit completely into regular continuity? Any book can be a few steps ahead or behind "regular continuity". Dark Reign is not on the front cover of this book.
Emma was invited to the party and the scene with Monica and Voodoo was obviously a flashback after Hurricane Katrina (post-K)

I thought the characterization was fine, at least for Felicia....most of the time. You're telling me Felicia doesn't go to clubs,spas and go speed dating? Many people her age speed date. It's pretty obvious Felicia's the ring leader when it comes to where they hang out, but the art exhibit might have been Patsy or Angelica's idea.



Post by xerox-kitty (4,038 posts) See mini bio

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You honestly think that Felicia would lower herself to speed-dating?  She may as well log on to Match.Com next.  It is below her.  She wouldn't need to resort to dating services.  None of them would!

And sure, it could be set a few steps before or after an event.  But to have Emma Frost in New York when she hasn't lived there for the last few years is something else entirely.  Emma costume alone dates this to a few years before Firestar even retired.  This is simple continuity work that has been completely ignored by writer, artist & editors.

And as I've said before, I LOVE slice-of-life stories with characterisation.  This isn't slice-of-life, this is just trite.  Purposefully aiming at an audience that would have nothing to do with comics... and boring those who dared to try something different.


Post by Jamiracles (245 posts) See mini bio

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I'd be curious to hear what Babs thinks of this series for her perspective of a female comic geek and if it clicked with her at all. It doesnt seem all that interesting in all honesty, though I always respect Marvel doing new things.

They should have called it "How Black Cat Got Her Groove Back"

Or maybe "How Brother Voodoo Got His Groove Back" Because i'd honestly like to know...


Post by G-Man (10,228 posts) See mini bio

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@Jamiracles said:
" I'd be curious to hear what Babs thinks of this series for her perspective of a female comic geek and if it clicked with her at all. It doesnt seem all that interesting in all honesty, though I always respect Marvel doing new things.

They should have called it "How Black Cat Got Her Groove Back"

Or maybe "How Brother Voodoo Got His Groove Back" Because i'd honestly like to know... "
I asked if she wanted to review it.  She passed.


Post by logan48227 (65 posts) See mini bio

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Since when did Felicia Hardy become Lady Deathstrike?


Post by Vance Astro (51,777 posts) See mini bio

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Like G-Man said,I really want to like this book.It's just not very good.I'm going to let this on to issue 5.If it doesn't pick up by then I'm done.I love all the Divas but this is lame.


Post by KnightKat (36 posts) See mini bio

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I was just complaining the other day about Marvels' lack of female driven titles, so when I saw Marvel Divas I had to give it a go.  What a disapointment.  In my opinion, it was very obvious that it had been written by a man, which wouldn't matter to me if it wasn't so obvious.  It just should have been better, not so cliche.  You want to write a modern day woman tale, then mix it up a little, do the characterization, but add depth for crying out loud!  Also, just because its a "womans' comic, doesnt mean there cant be any action!
I'm stil giving DC the win for having better written female characters, consistently. 


Post by pixelized (67,405 posts) See mini bio

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@Vance Astro said:
" Like G-Man said,I really want to like this book.It's just not very good.I'm going to let this on to issue 5.If it doesn't pick up by then I'm done.I love all the Divas but this is lame. "
isn't it only a 4 issue story?


Post by wynd_mar (1 posts) See mini bio

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meh.

To answer the question as a female who read this title and a lover of SAtC, I didn't mind it nor hate it.

I was biased from page three because I already could point out two episodes from SAtC that were either referenced or based upon in the storyline. Half-way through I yelled in my apartment, "I want to throw this out of the window!!" It wasn't because of the stereotypes or pushing GIRL stuff or even WOMEN EMPOWERED stuff on to me but it was because I have already experienced characters in situations just like this--in SAtC. I have all the episodes and movie...Like others, why would I want to read it in comic form? I mean it's a good try on trying to relate or reaching out to possible female and male readers old and new, but even the non SAtC viewer could see alot of the plot and character types coming. Theres a Carrie, Miranda, Char and Samantha...hell maybe in the next one there were be a Stafford. Hmm, probably not many know whom I'm speaking of.  Anyways-- I think that for now that this title is in the poor handling of character direction department. But then again--it is only the first issue.

However, I will say I did like how the four females were not the A-lister comic heroines. If I have to agree with something "good" I'd go with the fact that the females in the book weren't high listers. I did like how Photon had something with DocVooDoo--some females IRL are like that. I also liked how they did show the leads going around doing things like normal people and their status weren't crammed down my throat to remind me who they were. Though there was blatant SAtC/female situations I would hate to hear about Emma's male problems, Scott or other-wise. Or what it would be like for Storm to live a normal life married to a king and I'll be damned if I have to read what is on Sue's mind. Honestly, that would have ruined it for me as a reader because it would have been the ultimate stereotypical thing to do. Let's take our high profile girls and hear them bitch and moan. Hmm...not something I'd care about as much about.

On the subject of a male writer vs. a female writer :  Just because a female didn't write this one doesn't mean a female wouldn't have made this more blatant or not. A writer is a WRITER. Doesn't matter what their gender is...Writers have the ability to tell stories, but it really comes down to choosing the appropriate writer. Jodi Picoult's Wonder Woman Love and War was poorly recieved and shes a hit female/romance writer. I don't think it's the gender of the writer that matters since Brian K. Vaughan is a hit writer/producer and writes for the whole spectrum of genders as does Gail Simone and others.


I am curious to see how this goes only because I had read so much negative and positive hype on this title -- every comic title is pitched on past ideas or products so theres always going to be the cloud hanging over it's first release.  Some readers both genders may have judged just the cover at first and I chose to fork up 4 bucks to look beyond it--why not? Try it before ya knock 'em, right?

Oh and I'll be damned to be embarssed by walking in some comic shop to buy something I might want to read -- female empowered/marketed or not.




Post by FoxxFireArt (946 posts) See mini bio

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This always seems to catch my attention. Why is it J. Scott Campbell always seems to do only cover art, but never seems to do internal art. I always hate it when cover art is so much better then internal art.


Post by xerox-kitty (4,038 posts) See mini bio

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@FoxxFireArt said:
" This always seems to catch my attention. Why is it J. Scott Campbell always seems to do only cover art, but never seems to do internal art. I always hate it when cover art is so much batter then internal art. "
Because he takes too long to create internal art, but is good for the occasional cover.  But I believe his Mary Jane series might be out this year... or next.






Post by FoxxFireArt (946 posts) See mini bio

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@xerox-kitty: That's no real excuse. Those are covers. They should be sharper, but the artist should be the same.
He used to do month comics in Gen13. His Danger Girl series I think was hurt my it's erratic release dates.

That is what I love about Fred Perry. He does all the art on his own comics and they are breathtaking. Check out Gold Digger. You won't regret it. If you go to the Antarctic Press' website. They have previews of many of their titles. Perry does all the writing, drawing, coloring, text, and effects.
He also does his own animated movies. I'll PM you with a link to his youtube channel. Seems rude to post a link for another site on this site.


Post by xerox-kitty (4,038 posts) See mini bio

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I completely agree with you!!  He & Joe Madureira both became notoriously slow with their deadlines.  I genuinely don't see any real reason or excuse why they are so slow with their work.  And to be honest, JSC's work has degraded to the point where it looks like it took him 5 minutes to knock it out.  It's still pretty, but nowhere near as good as it used to be. 





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