Marvel Divas #1 Reviewed

Post by G-Man (10,251 posts) See mini bio

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Marvel has a brilliant marketing scheme. Most people do like the J. Scott Campbell artwork. I know people have asked why they have him do covers rather than interiors. I'm sure it's easier to whip out 22 covers versus 22 pages of continuous story. Also spread that artwork over 22 books, you're likely to have better sales. I've seen this referred to as "Sex In The City With Superheroes." Is that a good selling point? Who is this marketed to? Did you read this?

Is this a concept that can work? Do you want to see this side of the female characters? What if we had a comic with "locker room" talk among the male superheroes? Is this what female readers want? Do you care enough about these characters to read this and continue reading the rest of the series?

Posted 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Post by reaper2923 (826 posts) See mini bio

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I smell another sit-com

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Post by magicpower (7 posts) See mini bio

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It sounds like a boring read. That is just my opinion.

Posted 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Post by iLLituracy (1,022 posts) See mini bio

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It was off and on for me. The writing's not bad, but it's cliche. I actually--despite most disliking it, enjoyed the art. The thing that bothered me most is that they're taking the most cliche things when it comes to series like this [like chivalrous--or over-chivalrous men and having commitment issues] and applying it to B-List superheroines that seem tossed together. A New Warrior, a ex-jewel thief, a Avenger and a Defender, they don't really seem to mesh together all that well, but I guess it works when the writer needs it to. One thing I did enjoy was that I felt--despite it being cliche--that it captured women well [at least from a male point of view]. Like that one scene where some of the Lady Liberators show up and Patsy finds them appalling and decides to ditch her own party, that was semi-enjoyable. When it comes to heroes, especially with Marvel, even though they excel at making different factions on different sides of the spectrum, they lack a mixture of people who don't like each other, IMO, and when two characters on the same side DO dislike one another, it's usually within a villain team and it's usually to a extreme.

All in all, it seems okay so far, it's not a bad concept, I don't think. It needs more depth and less clicheness.

Posted 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Post by Pheeke (150 posts) See mini bio

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i heard about the issue but i didn't knew what it was about, now i'm not really interested anymore, and i'm a girl. if i wanted things like this i'll watch sex and the city, but i don't need it in my comics.

I loved the cover artwork but the inside art, not so much.

Posted 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Post by xerox-kitty (4,066 posts) See mini bio

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@G-Man said:

" Is this what female readers want? "

NO!

I love Firestar to bits, but I am absolutely TOO EMBARRASSED to even be seen picking this up. The characterisation is dire. They could have just made up some new characters, so fans would be less offended. The art is disappointing, from the concept sketches I saw I thought it would be cute, but it's scrappy & rough all the way through. And the cliffhanger ending... HOW?! Pym created the suit to help Firestar control her powers AND fix her body. So how has she ended up with cancer??

It was boring too. The voodoo doll bit was funny, but not enough to warrant me actually paying money for this. But the rest of it was just dull. Now, I really like slice of life stuff that's characterisation heavy. This wasn't characterisation based. This was just a bunch of vacuous bimbos strutting around trying to feel sexy. Who the hell cares?!

And to top it off... it doesn't fit in anywhere in regular continuity. Emma Frost had mysteriously moved back to New York and was still wearing her skimpy outfit from 4 or 5 years ago. Yet Firestar had retired. And Brother Voodoo wasn't Sorcerer Supreme. Is it too hard for an editorial team to ask for these minor changes to be made to bring it in line with the rest of the Marvel Universe.

I don't understand WHY this was made. The non-comic reading girls I know would not touch this. Some would possibly be tempted by a Wolverine title because they like the movies, but then they'd get lost in the decades of continuity. Others like more independent titles like the Death series or Umbrella Chronicles. But the shopping girlie girls... they wouldn't be seen DEAD in a comic shop! So why the hell would they care about 'Sex in the City'?! I've said it before & I'll say it again; this whole series is terribly misconceived. I want to like it, but ended up hating it. When the series has ended it might have a plot, but not enough to justify the cover price or the insult to my gender.

Posted 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Post by Joe Venom (519 posts) See mini bio

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I think it would better if it focus on different Females (Divas) each issue, like Moonstone and Victoria Hand or Ms. Marvel (Carol) and Jessica Jones. I think would be interesting to see them interact with each other when they are not dealing with superhero business.

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Post by xxCellPhoneGirlxx (5,894 posts) See mini bio

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I really like it :]

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Post by xxCellPhoneGirlxx (5,894 posts) See mini bio

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I would of a gave it a 4 out of 5, if it had art like the cover..

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Post by War Killer (7,987 posts) See mini bio

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@xxCellPhoneGirlxx said:

"I would of a gave it a 4 out of 5, if it had art like the cover.."

Yeah the cover looked great. And how many girl writers are there????

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@sora_thekey said:

" maybe this would be better if a woman wrote this... "

That's just it, the gender of the creator should have nothing to do with it. Think of all the good characterisation in the past. Did you ever think 'wow, a guy wrote that?!' because I know I've never cared about the gender of the people who create comics... I think the whole concept is flawed. I know this started as a desire to write a Sue Storm mini series. I'd rather have read that.

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Post by War Killer (7,987 posts) See mini bio

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@sora_thekey said:

"maybe this would be better if a woman wrote this... "

That was my thought as well

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@xerox-kitty said:

" @G-Man said:
" Is this what female readers want? "
NO!

I love Firestar to bits, but I am absolutely TOO EMBARRASSED to even be seen picking this up. The characterisation is dire. They could have just made up some new characters, so fans would be less offended. The art is disappointing, from the concept sketches I saw I thought it would be cute, but it's scrappy & rough all the way through. And the cliffhanger ending... HOW?! Pym created the suit to help Firestar control her powers AND fix her body. So how has she ended up with cancer??

It was boring too. The voodoo doll bit was funny, but not enough to warrant me actually paying money for this. But the rest of it was just dull. Now, I really like slice of life stuff that's characterisation heavy. This wasn't characterisation based. This was just a bunch of vacuous bimbos strutting around trying to feel sexy. Who the hell cares?!

And to top it off... it doesn't fit in anywhere in regular continuity. Emma Frost had mysteriously moved back to New York and was still wearing her skimpy outfit from 4 or 5 years ago. Yet Firestar had retired. And Brother Voodoo wasn't Sorcerer Supreme. Is it too hard for an editorial team to ask for these minor changes to be made to bring it in line with the rest of the Marvel Universe.

I don't understand WHY this was made. The non-comic reading girls I know would not touch this. Some would possibly be tempted by a Wolverine title because they like the movies, but then they'd get lost in the decades of continuity. Others like more independent titles like the Death series or Umbrella Chronicles. But the shopping girlie girls... they wouldn't be seen DEAD in a comic shop! So why the hell would they care about 'Sex in the City'?! I've said it before & I'll say it again; this whole series is terribly misconceived. I want to like it, but ended up hating it. When the series has ended it might have a plot, but not enough to justify the cover price or the insult to my gender.
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Alan Heinberg, the guy that did the first volume of Young Avengers, wrote for Sex and the City, why didn't they just hire him????

Posted 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Post by StormAmazonPhoenix (1,052 posts) See mini bio

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I seen Storm in the preview so I have to get this.

Posted 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Post by G-Man (10,251 posts) See mini bio

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@pixelized: I think Alan was too busy when he was writing Young Avengers. I could be wrong but I think he's why we didn't get more YA back then.

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Post by pixelized (67,478 posts) See mini bio

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@G-Man said:

" @pixelized: I think Alan was too busy when he was writing Young Avengers. I could be wrong but I think he's why we didn't get more YA back then. "

That sounds about right. i just hated how the series seemed to drag on. I read the issue with the theme music to SatC playing in the background to kind of set the mood, and... it just never clicked for me. By the time Felicia's story about her beau came up i was done.

Posted 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Post by AngelFrost (983 posts) See mini bio

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I haven't read this, Wish I could but theres like, no comic stores in my area ... ): which sucks.

Anyway, I like the fact that they show what happens behind the scenes, out of the costumes etc .... And just like ordinary people with powers. But I don't know where I really stand on this one.

Although, the series would have been better with an off-continuity Emma Frost as she is the biggest Marvel Diva.

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Post by Emperor Gonzo Noir (3,967 posts) See mini bio

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I would take Gotham City Sirens over this anyday, by the way giving a voodoo doll as a gift doesn't usually work

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@Emperor Gonzo Noir said:

" I would take Gotham City Sirens over this anyday "

but this and GCS are focused on two different things, so it's not really fair to compare them together.

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Post by Emperor Gonzo Noir (3,967 posts) See mini bio

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@pixelized:
true but again this is just my opinion on the matter, btw isn't Brother Voodoo like in his 60s and Monica like late 20s or early 30s?

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@Emperor Gonzo Noir: I understand it's your opinion but it's like comparing apples and walnuts; they have more differences than they do similarities, but anyway, regarding BV, idk.. could be, but he's quite fit if he is.

And what was up with Felica's claws/nails, where'd those come from?

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Post by KCsuperman09 (232 posts) See mini bio

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lol is that wonder man lol

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Post by The Crimson Nutcase (647 posts) See mini bio

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I cant even watch the whole video...
Anyone know why?

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Post by Emperor Gonzo Noir (3,967 posts) See mini bio

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@pixelized:
I suppose so, as for Felicia's claws i guess it will either be explained later or the writer is playing fast and loose with continuity

Posted 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Post by Media_Master (1,728 posts) See mini bio

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Sirens win over this one!

Posted 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Post by Nova`Prime` (882 posts) See mini bio

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I am a huge Firestar fan and I was going to give this comic the benefit of the doubt. But after the review and checking it out at the shop. There is no way I would waste good money on this. This is one of those times Marvel is printing something to make money. You don't bring in new readers with a cheesie-miniseries, you bring them in with awesome art, great stories, and excellent character development. And it definately doesn't deserve to be priced at $3.99 that's another reason you won't get new readers. Why buy a book that has nothing to do with the main universe for that price when you can pick up Iron Man, Ms. Marvel, and Fantastic Four for $2.99.

Posted 4 months, 3 weeks ago

Post by passionfruits (82 posts) See mini bio

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@xerox-kitty said:

" @sora_thekey said:
" maybe this would be better if a woman wrote this... "
That's just it, the gender of the creator should have nothing to do with it. Think of all the good characterisation in the past. Did you ever think 'wow, a guy wrote that?!' because I know I've never cared about the gender of the people who create comics... I think the whole concept is flawed. I know this started as a desire to write a Sue Storm mini series. I'd rather have read that. "

I have to agree that the gender of the writer adds a negligible amount to the work of writing. I mean this is not preparing for pregnancy here, it is writing a comic about out of this world superheroes. It would be necessary to have a woman writer or consultant if the topic was truly about deep and real female issues. But we have to remember that these female superheroes are completely unreal. I mean the cover is pretty telling that a 38-10-36 woman rarely exists outside of comic books. If they want the premise to be real and revolving around female issues, then as awesome as he is, J. Scott Cambell should not have done the cover.
I know I won't be picking up this comic because the wife will obviously not get past the bursting cover and I fear that many others won't be able to either for this type of book to succeed.

Posted 4 months, 3 weeks ago

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