Is Bishop FUBAR?

#1 Posted by Grendel (560 posts) - - Show Bio

Could his character return to superheroics without it seeming forced and hackneyed?

#2 Posted by Hawkling (178 posts) - - Show Bio

nope

#3 Posted by xerox_kitty (15762 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think it could without seeming 'forced'.  But then again, his transformation into a rabid psychopathic would-be baby-killer wasn't exactly a smooth & natural step for his character :p

#4 Posted by Ryonslaught (1247 posts) - - Show Bio
@Grendel: interesting chice term to discribe Bish FYBAR....F...U...B...A...R
yeah pretty much but xero has quite the point as well.
 
Still don't see why this drug out so long, it started around secret invasion why didn't they just reveal a skrull impostor and be done with it?!
#5 Posted by Risky (12629 posts) - - Show Bio

No, almost impossible.

#6 Posted by Chane (539 posts) - - Show Bio

Sure, why not? 
All it would take for him to go on a redemptive path would be to be proven wrong about Hope. Once that's happened he can build his reputation back...

#7 Posted by monamos (101 posts) - - Show Bio

If Magneto, Mystique and Emma are able to see-saw back and forth, I don't see how Bishop couldn't. Just gotta have the right writer.

#8 Posted by avwhite (124 posts) - - Show Bio
Bishop isn't technically a villian. He's trying to kill Hope in order to save the world (least that's what he thinks).
#9 Posted by crimsonspider89 (817 posts) - - Show Bio

But none of them have wiped out billions of innocent people chasing after a baby.

#10 Posted by monamos (101 posts) - - Show Bio
@avwhite said:
" Bishop isn't technically a villian. He's trying to kill Hope in order to save the world (least that's what he thinks). "
aren't the most dangerous villains the ones that think they're heroes?
#11 Posted by avwhite (124 posts) - - Show Bio
@monamos said:
" @avwhite said:
" Bishop isn't technically a villian. He's trying to kill Hope in order to save the world (least that's what he thinks). "
aren't the most dangerous villains the ones that think they're heroes? "
That is so true. But I mean...he does have a understandable reason for what he's doing...He's trying to prevent his future from happening in which the mutants are hunted, sent to concentration camps, and or killed.
#12 Posted by Kain (197 posts) - - Show Bio
@avwhite: He's killed billions of people to save a few thousand. All the while thinking that it will be all undone if he gets his way. For someone who time travels so much he clearly doesn't know how time travel in marvel actually works. None of it will be undone, it'll just exist in another reality. Bishop is an extremist tool.
#13 Posted by Grendel (560 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kain said:
" @avwhite: He's killed billions of people to save a few thousand. All the while thinking that it will be all undone if he gets his way. For someone who time travels so much he clearly doesn't know how time travel in marvel actually works. None of it will be undone, it'll just exist in another reality. Bishop is an extremist tool. "
Also makes his little speech to Legion at the end of AOA seem like a pathetic farce. What a hypocrite.
#14 Edited by Ryonslaught (1247 posts) - - Show Bio

After further thought maybe Bishop can be saved........just make hope a destroyer instead of a messiah that makes mutant human relations even worse.....then we can all get shirts that say "BISHOP WAS RIGHT" and sing Kumbaya. (Whistles)

#15 Posted by jordama (4225 posts) - - Show Bio
@monamos said:
" @avwhite said:
" Bishop isn't technically a villian. He's trying to kill Hope in order to save the world (least that's what he thinks). "
aren't the most dangerous villains the ones that think they're heroes? "

I like this, it is true
#16 Edited by Lokheit (492 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm copy-pasting the same I said in the thread   "Should Bishop get rebooted when they are done with time travel?" as the response also works here :P   
  
 
IMO the best way to make him back is once the second coming ends, and knowing it will create new timelines, make a new bishop from a timeline where the mutant baby was a messiah and not a destroyer (or where she was a destroyer but was stopped before she could do anything big, as I doubt in the main comics it is going to be any holocaust that keep them under prison forever, and remember that next astonishing x-men arc is called xenogenesis, so it is probable that new mutants will born again, and even it is possible that the messiah would revert the effects of M-Day) and make this Bihop time travel to present or something for any reason: 
 
For example: This new Bishop in his now not apocaliptic timeline, learns about an alternate bishop that nearly killed prof-X and the heroes he worships, and decides to travel back in time to clean the sins of his alternate counterpart and try to make the name of lucas bishop be a part of the future legends (hey, it wasn't too hard to make a good scenario for his return that would allow him to join the team without any "clone" or "possession" case, maybe we could see him again as a hero :P) 
 
Do you guys think it could work somehow?    


#17 Posted by Jotham (4564 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lokheit: Yeah, something like that might work.
 
I really hate what they did to Bishop, so I hope they do something to redeem him.
#18 Posted by Vance Astro (91357 posts) - - Show Bio

Bishop definitely sucks but I don't know what FUBAR means....

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#19 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" Bishop definitely sucks but I don't know what FUBAR means.... "
F-cked Up Beyond All Repair.
#20 Posted by Vance Astro (91357 posts) - - Show Bio
@Korg said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" Bishop definitely sucks but I don't know what FUBAR means.... "
F-cked Up Beyond All Repair. "
Thanks.
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#21 Posted by DevilmanEX (618 posts) - - Show Bio

They'll def bring him back for redemption at some point........I just hope when they do the transition and writing isn't as choppy and unbelievable as when he went total rogue.  Of maybe it should be quick and choppy so we forget how silly it was for him to go from future cop to psycho murderer in one hour in the first place

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