Unscripted Review: Birds Of Prey #2

#1 Edited by hpwaz (206 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm really dumb.
#2 Edited by JLAsuperdude (174 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm dumb.
#3 Posted by shawn87 (2095 posts) - - Show Bio

i've never actually read Birds Of Prey....i gotta add it to my list of comics to get

#4 Posted by Nionel (26 posts) - - Show Bio

I got it last week and I enjoyed it, granted I haven't read the previous Birds of Prey books, but I like it. I also agree that they all agreed to help Penguin a little too readily, but I guess we'll see where that's going next issue. All in all, it's good and I can't wait to read the third issue when it comes out next month.

#5 Posted by mdb47 (6 posts) - - Show Bio

I have been saying that about female characters and their costumes for a while now. And I also get why it can be difficult to express without offending or telling people what they should or shouldn't do.
But comic books are no longer an all-boys club, and female characters don't need to be so skimpy to appeal to the male readers anymore - especially when it doesn't make any sense for the character. 

#6 Posted by lostlantern13 (859 posts) - - Show Bio

I enjoyed the issue, but I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who questioned the revealing costumes.  Perhaps that's a potential "Off My Mind" topic, G-Man?

#7 Posted by NightFang (9639 posts) - - Show Bio

Need to pick up this issue. 

#8 Posted by ImperiousRix (1069 posts) - - Show Bio

Has there been an "Off My Mind" for female costume practicality?  If not, I think I smell one in the future. 
I <3 Lady Blackhawk.

#9 Posted by longbowhunter (5835 posts) - - Show Bio

Huntress really leaves her mid section open to attack. Thats a soft part of the body, cover it up. Dont get me wrong I love sexy superheros, but that costume she wore in the Rucka/Hamner Question stories would really come it handy while fighting this new threat. I'm stickin' around because I believe in Gail Simone. Loved the review guys!!
#10 Posted by johnny_spam (2028 posts) - - Show Bio

I am fine with these women looking like this has anyone seen their original costumes? That's how they looked.  
 
Someone put up a link to Tim Gunn reviewing Power Girl's costume and the talk of how super heroines' costumes look revealing but no one says anything about men's costume they are young drawn attractive and wear tights but no one calls it out on the men. So why not draw the women sexy when they are?

#11 Posted by Joe Venom (1275 posts) - - Show Bio

Great review, I loved how Huntress could not wait to beat down those cops "Goodbye reserve JLA membership" lol

#12 Posted by Benzo (621 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't wait to pick up this issue!!! :D, oh and how was hawk and dove in this issue?  

#13 Posted by sora_thekey (8105 posts) - - Show Bio

I want to read this! 
Could it be that the White Canary being pinpointed to be Sin by Gail to distract people for when the real identity is revealed?
 
BTW @Babs... Go Brasil!
So far they've been playing really good in the World Cup!

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#14 Posted by DoN`t_KrAnQ_jUsT_PsYcHoO (315 posts) - - Show Bio

wth is this "white canary" thing what is that why did they get a white one hellloo?? the orginally canary would kick her in to the next cave

#15 Posted by Jake Fury (17922 posts) - - Show Bio

This comic rocks 7 different ways to Sunday!!
#16 Posted by EnSabahNurX (2310 posts) - - Show Bio

 lmao the huntress costume i have to agree, it doesn't make sense or serve a purpose. She's had many cooler costumes over the years and the rectangle cut out just frustrates me XD

#17 Posted by FoxxFireArt (3536 posts) - - Show Bio

Please, do you really need to point out that her mask only covers her lower face? People fall for Clark Kent's disguise.
 
I think Lady Blackhawk and Black Canary's outfits just look a bit too similar. It makes them easy to mix up if it wasn't for the hat. If you were to look at them from the waist up.
I'm willing for White Canary to be anyone other then Cassandra Cain.
 
Love the shirts, G-Man and Babs.

#18 Posted by Secret Identity (223 posts) - - Show Bio

I really liked this issue. I think I'd actually review it higher than the previous one for consistency. The first issue started incredibly well then seemed to trail off at the end. this one i felt was good all the way through. Not as good as the first portion of issue one but better than the second part. 
 
I honestly hadn't even considered that White Canary might be Sin until you said it but i did think maybe it was Sin's biological mother... not knowing her history all that well I don't know if thats ruled out. (Was her mother Lady Shiva? or was she just her trainer?) I'm not really trying to guess who it is though. Maybe that's why I enjoyed it. I'm not trying to guess who/what will happen, just enjoying the ride as I go along with it. I don't think it will be Sin though. 
 
As for the costumes. I think they are all fine but i do prefer huntress having her stomach covered. It just makes more sense for the character. Black Canary in fishnets? Its classic and should stay. Lady Blackhawk? Her gear is more of a uniform than a costume so that also works for me. To be honest though, as a Green Arrow fan you get used to the idea of having no continuity in the costume design from one issue to the next.  
 
Anyway, the issue was good, the story seems solid and to be going somewhere interesting. Yes there are some issues with the Birds falling into trouble a little easily but I think it will all lead to them picking up their game and getting back to a stronger point. I'd give this issue a very solid 4/5. Next issue will be the teller.

#19 Posted by Roninidas (383 posts) - - Show Bio

Did Babs use the term Fanny Packs?

#20 Posted by Paragon (7293 posts) - - Show Bio

Liked the story, but not a fan of how the art changed about halfway through the book. It's really distracting to me. Heck, I'm even distracted by it if it changes in between books within the same arc.

#21 Posted by Comiclove5 (1255 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm still picking up this issue because I think the storyline will come out good in the end.
#22 Posted by carnivalofsins00 (938 posts) - - Show Bio

i dont remember where, but i heard someone thinking it could be Cassie.

#23 Posted by darth bul (130 posts) - - Show Bio

i do not like birds of  prey
#24 Posted by MrDirector786 (43131 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with a lot of the things they say about the costumes. Sometimes it's confusing why they'd where costumes that don't seem to serve much purpose in what they do. The White Canary thing is interesting too.

#25 Posted by Nepth (131 posts) - - Show Bio

What is used to hold the comics on the wall?

#26 Posted by Mediant (329 posts) - - Show Bio

People need to not get caught up in practicalities when it comes to comic books. Costumes are an aesthetic. Whether they issue is that they're impractical for physical activity or that they wouldn't effectively mask a character's identity, or it's designed differently than it was previously, it doesn't really matter.

#27 Posted by KevinL007 (16 posts) - - Show Bio

When it was first announced that Birds of Prey was going to be back and Gail Simone was going to be at the helm I was really excited but since the announcement my initial excitement for this title went way down. After the first issue I was just not impressed by what was going on. The writing and art were okay but the story didn't grab me that much and felt that this series was being written for trade and not a monthly format. And I was originally going to wait and read issue #2 to see if I should keep this title on my pull list but then it got delayed here in the west coast, like you guys said, and when I went to pick up my comics today I completely forgot that I had to pick up this issue. From what you guys said I think I am going to trade wait this series because the way the story is going trade waiting just seems to be the smart way to go with this series.
 
Great review!

#28 Posted by intothetempest (288 posts) - - Show Bio

I've always liked the huntress' costume. Impractical? Sure. Awesome? Of course! 

#29 Posted by logan48227 (298 posts) - - Show Bio

Since when did Huntress talk like one of the Sopranos?

#30 Posted by G-Man (29408 posts) - - Show Bio
@FoxxFireArt:  When John Byrne rebooted Superman in the 80s, he had it that Superman moved his face at superspeed so it would always be blurry on camera. They stopped doing that unfortunately.
 
@Roninidas:
Fanny pack means something completely different in the U.S than it does in the UK.
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#31 Posted by tallTuck94 (28 posts) - - Show Bio

is it just me or has anyone noticed that brazil is spelt worng on babs shirt

#32 Posted by No_Name_ (17403 posts) - - Show Bio
@talltuck94 said:
" is it just me or has anyone noticed that brazil is spelt worng on babs shirt "
Actually it's written in Portuguese (the national language) so it's written correctly.
#33 Posted by Roninidas (383 posts) - - Show Bio
@G-Man:
God I really hope so, because my Grandmother uses a Fanny Pack when she's out going to Flee Markets and Yard Sales to hols her Meds, Money, and Keys.   Fanny Packs are gay.  What is the UK Version?
#34 Posted by FoxxFireArt (3536 posts) - - Show Bio
@G-Man said:

" @FoxxFireArt:  When John Byrne rebooted Superman in the 80s, he had it that Superman moved his face at superspeed so it would always be blurry on camera. They stopped doing that unfortunately. "

I was more talking about how everyone was fooled my the Clark Kent glasses as a disguise.
 
@Babs said:

" @talltuck94 said:

" is it just me or has anyone noticed that brazil is spelt worng on babs shirt "
Actually it's written in Portuguese (the national language) so it's written correctly. "
I actually really like that it's written in the native dialect. It sort of reminds me of how silly it seems that countries are often called something completely different in different countries. How everyone calls it Germany, but there it's Deutschland. Most of the world calls it Japan, but there it's Nihon/Nippon.
 
I get that some of the time these mistakes are due to translation errors, but once you know there is a mistake. Why not correct it and call a country by it's proper name?
#35 Edited by ChadwickDavis (443 posts) - - Show Bio

I believe it is Sin's biological mother.  
Do you recall what Cheshire said to Black Canary in the back issues (Sensei and Student arc)  
 
"Where I come from taking another wonan's child is an unpardonable sin"  
 
This was due to Dinah's closeness with Lian. Technically the same rules would apply if Sin's biological mother felt the same way; especially if you consider that Sin was being conditioned to be the next Shiva who's to say that she was the only one?     

#36 Posted by clumsyninja (143 posts) - - Show Bio

Go Brazil !!!!

#37 Posted by charlieboy (7136 posts) - - Show Bio

i do like huntress' look. it reminds me of helena wayne's costume. which i think was intended. they just made it more revealing. i don't mind if they change huntress' costume. as long as they don't use that hideous thing from detective comics.
#38 Posted by Freddy.Mercurial (152 posts) - - Show Bio

VIVA BRASIL!!!

#39 Posted by blackcanaryguy (21 posts) - - Show Bio

Re: huntress costume--This is Jim Lee's redesign for the original Hush. In her defense, Gail took her out of it as quickly as possible when they put Huntress in Birds of Prey; she's really the one who militated against it. Canary and Huntress even joke about it when Huntress comes to help her escape from Savant.  Within  a few issues, Huntress was wearing a costume that provided full coverage, including her midsection and legs.
 
As for the "youse," I thought it was pretty clear she was joking, but it clearly didn't work for people.

#40 Posted by DominiqueAgri (3 posts) - - Show Bio

In one of the BoP books from the 1st volume, Black Canary asks Huntress what the deal was with the new (peakaboo tummy) outfit, and Huntress' response was,  
700 situps per day." While I agree the costumes are pretty sexy for what they need to be, I think Simone plays with the art in a way that says her characters are reclaiming their sexuality and that makes it okay...
#41 Posted by Wilderness Academy (24 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the strong female characters in this team.  I am annoyed by the attempts at selling skin (or belly buttons) to attract more male readers.  I don't know if I could take a knife in the belly, but I could if I was wearing armor there. 
#42 Posted by teewillis1981 (123 posts) - - Show Bio

You two are tough critics! 3.5? Really? I loved it! I was entertained. Great art, great writing. It did everything a comic should do.

#43 Posted by G-Man (29408 posts) - - Show Bio
@teewillis1981: Sometimes we're told we're too tough, other times too easy. The main thing is to also listen to our reasoning. We'll always give an honest review and let you guys know how the comic rates, in our opinion.
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#44 Posted by Heml0ck (24 posts) - - Show Bio
@johnny spam said:
"I am fine with these women looking like this has anyone seen their original costumes? That's how they looked.   Someone put up a link to Tim Gunn reviewing Power Girl's costume and the talk of how super heroines' costumes look revealing but no one says anything about men's costume they are young drawn attractive and wear tights but no one calls it out on the men. So why not draw the women sexy when they are? "

I agree, 100%

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