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Character » Billy Batson appears in 1357 issues.

Deemed worthy to become his champion by the ancient wizard SHAZAM, whenever he utters the word, "SHAZAM!", young Billy Batson is powered with the abilities of six Elders as he's struck by a thunderbolt, transforming into the World's Mightiest Mortal that ever lived, Shazam!

captain marvel stronger than wonder woman

#1 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
i think he is
#2 Edited by ownsin (142 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

He might be, but Wonder Woman would beat him easily, due to her being smarter in combat and having a lot of experience, which Billy sadly doesn't have much of.

#3 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@ownsin said:
"He might be, but Wonder Woman would beat him easily, due to her being smarter in combat and having a lot of experience, which Billy sadly doesn't have much of. "

no way dude, Billy would beat Diana, he is more powerful
#4 Posted by Theodore (3445 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

doubt it.

#5 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Theodore said:
"doubt it. "

i don't
#6 Posted by karrob (4211 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Theodore said:
" doubt it. "
#7 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

lol captain marvel would get beat down but ive never seen any evidence besides the fact he can go head on with superman though thats because hes a magical being, is there any other reason to think hes stronger

#8 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Valtot said:
"lol captain marvel would get beat down but ive never seen any evidence besides the fact he can go head on with superman though thats because hes a magical being, is there any other reason to think hes stronger "

he stalemated her in war of the gods
#9 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

so if he stalemates her how does that make him stronger

#10 Posted by Noctis (1391 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

This is on her page
"Among her superhero peers, Wonder Woman's vast strength is second only to that of  Superman, allowing her to lift far in excess of 100 tons without any effort at all. Her strength has allowed her to assist Superman and  Martian Manhunter in moving the earth."
So I'd say Diana.

#11 Posted by PowerHerc (52595 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Captain Marvel is second only to Superman in strength.   
He's stronger than Wonder Woman, Lobo, Orion, etc.  No question.
#12 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@PowerHerc said:
"Captain Marvel is second only to Superman in strength.   He's stronger than Wonder Woman, Lobo, Orion, etc.  No question. "

agreed, he is stronger than Diana
#13 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

ye hes slightly stronger than diana though she could take him out with her bracelets when he shazams via reflection

#14 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Valtot said:
"ye hes slightly stronger than diana though she could take him out with her bracelets when he shazams via reflection "

Billy is stronger than Diana, Supergirl and Power Girl, and is on par with Superman
#15 Posted by tensor (3324 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

captain marvel is stronger than ww very hard to say they two biggest feat include superman in both 
1 is superman an ww holding up spectre
2 an the other is superman an captain marvel holding a book of infinity  pages  
that been said shazam gets his strength from hercules , wonder woman is said to be stronger than hercules 

#16 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

also take into account marvel has magic so hes not actually phyiscally on par with superman its the magic assisting him, when did he show he was physically on par? has he ever moved the earth, or atleast something half the size of the earth, greatest feat i remember is a continent. Id say there equals in strength wonderwoman and marvel.
#17 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@tensor said:
"captain marvel is stronger than ww very hard to say they two biggest feat include superman in both  1 is superman an ww holding up spectre 2 an the other is superman an captain marvel holding a book of infinity  pages   that been said shazam gets his strength from hercules , wonder woman is said to be stronger than hercules  "

Billy is stronger than Hercules, the power of zeus amps u all of his powers, including strength
#18 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Valtot said:
"also take into account marvel has magic so hes not actually phyiscally on par with superman its the magic assisting him, when did he show he was physically on par? has he ever moved the earth, or atleast something half the size of the earth, greatest feat i remember is a continent. Id say there equals in strength wonderwoman and marvel. "

Marvel is probbs aboe Supergirl and Power Girl, and equal with Supes IMO
#19 Posted by Nighthunter (28542 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

I believe in Diana, even if Captain Marvel is stronger Wonder Woman is a better fighter, way better......

#20 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@comicdude23:
proof besides matches superman in combat which is because of magic, ive never seen other proof that hes equal to superman physically, supermans stated that its magic that allows him to hurt superman.
#21 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Valtot said:
"@comicdude23: proof besides matches superman in combat which is because of magic, ive never seen other proof that hes equal to superman physically, supermans stated that its magic that allows him to hurt superman. "

strength of hercules+power of zeus
#22 Posted by tensor (3324 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@comicdude23: yes it does but that still does not say he is stronger they need to say by how much his strength increase is by because ww is stronger than hercules plus they both have impressive feat it is hard to say who is stronger
#23 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@tensor said:
" @comicdude23: yes it does but that still does not say he is stronger they need to say by how much his strength increase is by because ww is stronger than hercules plus they both have impressive feat it is hard to say who is stronger "

want to call them equal in strength then?
#24 Posted by LordMaverick (4389 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

CM  stronger than WW.   But WW wins in Combat
#25 Posted by queenfrost_ (2467 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

WW owns it, end of.

#26 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
they already stalemated....
#27 Posted by Gambit1024 (9889 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio

Marvel is definitely stronger, but Wonder Woman would win if they fought. Strength means nothing if you don't have the right combat skills. 

#28 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@Gambit1024 said:
"Marvel is definitely stronger, but Wonder Woman would win if they fought. Strength means nothing if you don't have the right combat skills.  "

I'm not sure who would win
#29 Edited by LordMaverick (4389 posts) - 2 years, 5 months ago - Show Bio
@comicdude23:
Thats not billy batson,   Billy derives his powers from 7 other gods, not the greek pantheon 
 
Wait never mind!  who am i thinking of? 
 
 
no shazam was the champion of the 7 other gods,, for some reason billys powers come from the greek gods?   doesnt make sense.
#30 Posted by Birthright (116 posts) - 2 years, 4 months ago - Show Bio

Wonder Woman takes this.
#31 Posted by Mighty Max (459 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio

Funny enough that in Power Of Shazam #15 Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel do have an arm wrestling contest before the greek pantheon and Captain Marvel loses.
 

SPOILER WARNING: Click here to reveal hidden content.
#32 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago - Show Bio
@Mighty Max said:
"Funny enough that in Power Of Shazam #15 Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel do have an arm wrestling contest before the greek pantheon and Captain Marvel loses.
 
SPOILER WARNING: Click here to reveal hidden content.
He just lost, as he used the power of Solemen, knowing that if he lost she would mate with him so he lost on purpose. Oh yeah it was all a dream of Billy's too! :)
"

So he lost on purpose...
#33 Posted by Mighty Max (459 posts) - 2 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio
@comicdude23 said:
" @Mighty Max said:
"Funny enough that in Power Of Shazam #15 Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel do have an arm wrestling contest before the greek pantheon and Captain Marvel loses.
 
SPOILER WARNING: Click here to reveal hidden content.
"
So he lost on purpose... "
It was all a dream, he lost on purpose so he could "mate" with Wonder Woman, apparently an amazon ritual is that they must beat a guy at arm wrestling to mate with them. It was pretty funny plus it was an epic pic of them arm wrestling too. My scanner isn't really working but my webcam is so the quality is kind of crummy but heres their arm wrestling contest. It didn't have anything to do with the issue it was just a little thing at the start: 





It's a little hard to see but in the last one on the right side you see Wonder Woman dragging him off to mate with her and theirs Solemen with his thumb up.
#34 Posted by Hoboseid (1022 posts) - 2 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio
@Valtot said:
" also take into account marvel has magic so hes not actually phyiscally on par with superman its the magic assisting him, when did he show he was physically on par? has he ever moved the earth, or atleast something half the size of the earth, greatest feat i remember is a continent.  "
Exactly A vs B vs C logic doesn't work
Wonder Woman isn't so weak against magic like Superman, Billy might even hurt himself on her bracelets. Plus Diana is a far better fighter, better trained, experienced etc Superman for all his strength has little martial arts skills, his style; he fights like a hick from a farm
 on a level playing field with everyone of equal power the Batman would kill Superman or Billy
on a level playing field Diana might score some wins over Batman, she is that good
#35 Posted by PowerHerc (52595 posts) - 2 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio
@comicdude23:
Agreed.
#36 Posted by destruct0 (25 posts) - 2 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

I would think Captain Marvel is stronger than Wonder Woman. Sure she's "stronger" than Hercules, but with all of his other abilities combined; I think that would tip him over the scale against Wonder Woman. And whenever I hear people mention "Moving the Earth" I -facepalm- It's just a little too over the top for my taste... (Yes, I know we're talking about comic books, but still)

#37 Posted by rmorehead (2 posts) - 1 year, 10 months ago - Show Bio

Both CM and WW have the "strength of Hercules" "the speed of Mercury/Hermes." It would seem to me to be a wash. WW, being a trained warrior with the wisdom of Athena may have an edge in strategy/tactics over CM's wisdom of Solomon. However, CM's invulnerability far exceeds WW's. I call it a draw.

#38 Posted by Pokeysteve (3403 posts) - 1 year, 10 months ago - Show Bio
@comicdude23 said:
they already stalemated....
That fight didn't last long enough for a stalemate. It's ridiculous how much it's gets referenced on here.  
#39 Posted by comicdude23 (11082 posts) - 1 year, 10 months ago - Show Bio
@Pokeysteve said:
@comicdude23 said:
they already stalemated....
That fight didn't last long enough for a stalemate. It's ridiculous how much it's gets referenced on here.  
Yes it did. More than enough panels.
#40 Edited by Pokeysteve (3403 posts) - 1 year, 10 months ago - Show Bio
@comicdude23 said:

@Pokeysteve said:

@comicdude23 said:
they already stalemated....
That fight didn't last long enough for a stalemate. It's ridiculous how much it's gets referenced on here.  
Yes it did. More than enough panels.
He hits her once by surprise, she dodges his next attack and then kicks him, they smash into each other sending them into chaos where Hermes and Mercury are fighting. She snares him with the Lasso then Mercury's Caduceus explodes separating them. There isn't enough there for a stalemate. A stalemate implies neither combatant is superior to the other. That can't be established in a 7 or 8 panel fight. 
#41 Posted by PowerHerc (52595 posts) - 1 year, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Cap is still stronger than WW.

#42 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - 1 year, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@ownsin said:

He might be, but Wonder Woman would beat him easily, due to her being smarter in combat and having a lot of experience, which Billy sadly doesn't have much of.
#43 Posted by Billy Batson (54593 posts) - 1 year, 8 months ago - Show Bio

yep.
BB

#44 Posted by GREGalicious (441 posts) - 1 year, 8 months ago - Show Bio

CAPTAIN MARVEL being stronger than WONDER WOMAN is kinda laughable. They are in the same class of physical strength along with SUPERMAN and a few others. While Superman is definitely a little stronger than WW, at best Capt. Marvel is as strong as WW (being as though they both received their powers from the Gods).

Either way, 9.8 times out of 10, she'd beat him down in battle.

#45 Posted by HolySerpent (11735 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

I think cap.marvel is stronger. Isn't he suppose to be supermans equal

#46 Posted by max4523 (83 posts) - 1 year, 3 months ago - Show Bio

wonder woman has the strength of gaea, the earth itself, stronger than that of heracles himself. captain marvel has the strength of hercules. captain marvel is awesomely powerful, but how is he stronger than a woman who draws her strength from an entire planet, the way superman draws his strength from the sun.

#47 Posted by etobicoker (2 posts) - 10 months, 27 days ago - Show Bio

Gotta agree with max4523. If we want to go by the letter of DC lore, Captain Marvel has the "Strength of Hercules" where as Wonder Woman is "Stronger than Hercules". I would point out that Captain Marvel gained his powers via the Wizard SHAZAM but Diana was gifted hers directly from the Gods themselves which I would think also makes a difference. Both characters are amazingly strong. Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman and Superman all have strength at a virtually unlimited level to the extent that it would be difficult to even test or notice a difference in a battle. I would say Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel each have enough strength that it as a power wouldn't be the deciding factor in a fight between them.

#48 Posted by Teerack (3245 posts) - 10 months, 27 days ago - Show Bio

Of course he is.

#49 Posted by jobbernos (1372 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

yes.

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