are they equal or does someone have a clear advantage

Thor's got the godpower, but Beta has the savagery and rarely holds back. Thor, comparatively, has sworn never to use more than a third of his might against any mortal creature. Presumably, Beta would fall under that category. So in a brawl with each other, Beta. Against a more godlike adversary in a test of who could take it out fastest? ... Probably Beta again. He'd go right for the killing blow while Thor would try a few alternatives before deciding it needs to die.

So in actual power when fully brought to bare? Thor. His godblasts give him the edge.

In practice? Beta.

i think beta way bill is more powerful because he is more worthless and doesn't hold back. if he wants to kill you he could.

There almost equal but Beta is a little better because taking away their hammers Beta's normal form is stronger than a basics Asgardian. at least that was how it was explained when he won.

@JonSmith said:

Thor's got the godpower, but Beta has the savagery and rarely holds back. Thor, comparatively, has sworn never to use more than a third of his might against any mortal creature. Presumably, Beta would fall under that category. So in a brawl with each other, Beta. Against a more godlike adversary in a test of who could take it out fastest? ... Probably Beta again. He'd go right for the killing blow while Thor would try a few alternatives before deciding it needs to die.

So in actual power when fully brought to bare? Thor. His godblasts give him the edge.

In practice? Beta.

Just curious when/where did Thor state this? This would make sense as to why he sometimes gets stomped by characters he should easily beat.

@ThanoStomp said:

Thor, comparatively, has sworn never to use more than a third of his might against any mortal creature.

Just curious when/where did Thor state this? This would make sense as to why he sometimes gets stomped by characters he should easily beat.

While I can't find the original scan where he himself said it on short notice, this is still proof he said it.

@JonSmith: Thanks!!! As a Thor fan, this explains a lot.

@JonSmith said:

@ThanoStomp said:

Thor, comparatively, has sworn never to use more than a third of his might against any mortal creature.

Just curious when/where did Thor state this? This would make sense as to why he sometimes gets stomped by characters he should easily beat.

While I can't find the original scan where he himself said it on short notice, this is still proof he said it.

That's from Civil War "What If..." if I remember correctly.

In only power Thor but in a fight without the powers Beta should win because he goes for the killing blow

Thor is more powerful but holds back bill dosent

Makes no sense though, if he is losing clearly what goes through his mind? Well I can use a tad bit more of my power just to gain the upper hand...NO I cannot I will just lose instead... is there no grey area with him? Either he's losing to his opponent, or they are dead

That because he fight more powerful opponent why would Thor want to use his wrath on a mortal emeny? Most of Bill enemies are cosmic beings in order to engage in battle with them he has to in touch with his warlike nature don't forget that when Thor was engage in cosmic stroylines he was using powers that were capble of destroying planet, stars and galaxies. He cause a univerals shockwave on Ego the living planet, he made Galactus flee, and nearly killed Adam Warlock(Him).

Thor would use his wrath on a mortal enemy in order to win. If holding back causes him to lose, it makes sense that he would use more power if he had it.

Bill beat him head up without the hammers and showed to as strong or stronger. In there first fight Thor didn't beat him either with the hammer.