@Gambit1024: Exactly. A different universe is one thing but come on...
@Mercy_: Looked him up, so far it just seems like a stupid forced agenda from the movies, there is no reason for him to exist. It's probably because they wanted to have a reason to introduce a 616 villain in the credits of the avengers film, make seem like the midway point between ultimate and original...just flat out stupid to mesh in things from a ten year old verse into a what, 50 year old one that it was based on? just annoying and confusing.
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