Everyone is a hypocrite about something but as much as I'm starting to dislike the sanctimonious douche currently known as Beast I don't think he's in the wrong about this. Sure he's tolerating Wolverine doing something he didn't tolerate Scott doing but he's not required to hold everyone to the same universal standard in everything what you or I will take from someone without repercussions depends on our expectations and Beast expectations of Wolverine are rightfully lower than those he holds for Scott.

Good blog It is a interesting question but I think Hanks only a hypocrite if he kills someone himself

I've always liked Wolverine more than Cyclops, so it really doesn't bother me if Beast is a hypocrite or not.

I haven't read the issue though, but can anyone tell me what happened between Kitty and AoA Nightcrawler...doesn't look pretty from that one panel... O_O

Wolverine is one of the biggest pricks I have seen in comics so I'm biased when it comes to this topic 

I keep seeing the word hypocrite thrown around as though it were some sort of ongoing practice or philosophy.  If an individual lies once, does that make them perpetually a liar?  While their words may then be more suspect afterwards, it certainly doesn't mean they are incapable of telling the truth.  Beast's individual act may be hypocritical, but that doesn't mean he is going to spend the rest of his comic-book days constantly saying one thing and then doing another.
 
Or maybe we should just whip out the 'H' shaped branding iron and start pressing foreheads?

Ya he is a hypocrite. He basically treats Cyclopse as the devil now but give Wolverine a free pass.

@The Lobster said:

For one Scott left him to be tortured by Dark Beast and Norman Osborn in order to keep Utopia a secret.

I honestly don't remember this panning out the way you described it. From what I understand, Scott had Emma infiltrate the Cabal under the rouse that she had her own agenda for mutant kind, separate from Cyclops. In doing so she was able to locate the whereabouts of Hank and rescue him from the clutches of Dark Beast. So I wouldn't say that Scott left Hank to be tortured by Dark Beast per se (he wasn't directly involved with the rescue, but I think he did orchestrate it).

I think what drove Hank over the edge was the fact that the X-men were no longer just a school for young mutants, but rather, a second incarnation of Genosha. At heart, Hank has always been a teacher.

I've always liked Wolverine more than Cyclops, so it really doesn't bother me if Beast is a hypocrite or not.

I haven't read the issue though, but can anyone tell me what happened between Kitty and AoA Nightcrawler...doesn't look pretty from that one panel... O_O

@The Lobster said:

@War Killer said:

I've always liked Wolverine more than Cyclops, so it really doesn't bother me if Beast is a hypocrite or not.

I haven't read the issue though, but can anyone tell me what happened between Kitty and AoA Nightcrawler...doesn't look pretty from that one panel... O_O

Basically the AoA Nightcrawler stays in the 616 so he hunt down those that killed his alleys. Kitty see him and hugs him thinking he's the 616 Kurt and he yells at her telling her he's not the Kurt she knows. I get the feeling that AoA Nightcrawler is a little uncomfortable in the 616, but who wouldn't be if they were in his situation.

Ah okay, that makes more sense. Explains why he's so hostile in that image towards her.

One of the big differences between the two X-Force teams is that X-23 was on the team and she was just a teen wich probably pissed Beast right off and this version of the team are all adults who don't have a problem with killing and putting that on their minds so Beast might not be offended.

@Dernman: I'm not sure what to label Hank, however, I don't think that it's fair to hold Scott and Logan at different standards. I recognize that he thought highly of Scott, however, to just outright blast Scott over Nightcrawlers death, X-Force taking too long to rescue, not wanting to own up to letting his scientific research fall into the wrong hands, aiding Agent Brand in firing cannon with the power of a sun into a ghostbox where others resided, and whatever mess he's got going on with Secret Avengers; I just don't think too highly of ol' Hank as of late. I really hope that he has his own bull thrown back in his face.

@One_Eye: So do I he acted so smug and self righteous that time he showed up to pick up people to bring to the school. He even said he didn't need to show up he was ony there to throw it in his face. I found it very childish.

@Dernman: Yeah, I just couldn't care less about the character and really want to see him called out on his b/s.

the differance between the two is scott sent them out to kill people the new xforce is only their to protect the school from threats lets say the us goverment sends people to invade and destroy the school then the xforce steps in and takes them out

He is a hypocrite. Beast was mad at Scott not only for not saving him fast enough from Dark Beast, but because Scott authorized killing. That's why he left the team. Now Wolverine tells him the X-force is still around and he stays. Plus, Beast did kill a lot of people in the secret avengers.

I'd say no, partially because of the background, since the X-Force was considered an abomination by nearly everyone on Utopia as well (was one of the reasons X-23 left) because it and its agenda was kept secret despite all the people involved. Hank probably appreciates that Logan at least informs him that the X-Force remains active rather than notify him after its closed down (which is kinda like telling people of an approaching car after its hit you.)

Here's a point, maybe the marvel comics are just so overloaded with 50+ years of continuity (I skip over pre Stan Lee time because Marvel barely touches that era outside Cap and Namor's branch of their world), that in order to have interesting stories they have to mess up characters.

Perhaps they should think like DC and reset. You fans complain so much

I don't consider him a hypocrite. To only look at the similarities of a situation and not the differences would be an error in reasoning. So becomes a question if the differences between scenarios seem valid enough as far as Beast actions and attitudes to hence justify them. Now its important to remember that other characters have their own reasoning and justification behind things and inconsistencies in actions and attitudes. I mean Cyclops used to be extremely opposed to killing enemies (like never ever ever never) because at the time he would have seen that as justifying all the anti-mutant sentiment and that Magneto's approach was making things worse, but it really was just a numbers game. Mutant population wasn't low enough and maybe also the character grew up and or gained new views. Wolverine as well, he almost killed Rachel for killing Selene and Selene went on to kill and kill and then Wolverine was the first and most eager to dig his claws into Wanda and Hope as well as being pretty intolerant to those who didn't. Then again Wolverine is old. Really old people, like 120 years old people tend to have that chip on their shoulder about doing what they say but not what they do.  
 
So anyway Beast. One just has to look at the differences between the two incarnations of X-Force and even Secret Avengers to determine if Beast is a hypocrite. The secrecy of one and to who, as well as the inclusion of X-23, as well as things like authority and accountability all adds up. Has Wolverine, Cap A used any non X-Force/Secret Avengers members to accomplish X-Force mission goals? Did any of them die? Plus we can't ignore that this is comics. Fiction. Writers try to force tension sometimes. I could have imagined Cyclops actually informing the senior X-Men of X-Forces existence when he formed it, but then that wouldn't have become a plot point later. Anyway, I think too highly of Beast or Cyclops or Storm to consider them hypocrites as far as X-Force and X-Men killing goes. Wolverine I like thinking of a hypocrite because I view it as an endearing part of the character.               

Beast can go away. His anti-Cyclops vendetta has gone on for far too long.

I think you answered this at the beginning of the blog. When Beast left Scott, X-Force was the last strew of an already scorned relationship. With Wolverine, there isn't any bad blood yet and as long as he isn't apart of and it's not causing a problem to the student at the school, I'm thinking he is letting this one go.

@MadRooster81 said:

I think you answered this at the beginning of the blog. When Beast left Scott, X-Force was the last strew of an already scorned relationship. With Wolverine, there isn't any bad blood yet and as long as he isn't apart of and it's not causing a problem to the student at the school, I'm thinking he is letting this one go.

Beast helped design devices that were able to send X-Force to the future.

X-Force saved Beast from H.A.M.M.E.R. incarceration and torture.

X-Force stopped the spread of a new Legacy virus, saved two young mutants (Hellion and Surge) and stopped Selene.

Moreover, they were lead by Wolverine. No one was forced to be on the team by Scott or Wolverine.

Scott disbanded the team after Second `Coming when the threats he had assembled X-Force to eliminate had been dealt with.

Wolverine then went behind everyone's backs and started a new team, yet Beast doesn't get pissed off when he finds out? What about when he finds out that Wolverine's new team shot a kid in the head? It's a reflection of Beast's unfounded dislike of Scott and nothing more.

Beast's a hypocrite, plain and simple.

Yes, and it has damned him for me some, but he is still one of my favorite X-Men and hopefully over time he see's he has double standards.

http://marvel.com/news/story/19701/through_the_eyes_of_the_x-men_beast

Found this

Beast is not a Hypocrite

Remember when ALL the X-Men had disagreements but still acted as a team and cared about each other? Seems like a long time ago. (Maybe Uncanny X-Men issues #1-20? haha, nah, just kidding)

he's a complete hypocrite...a sanctimonious one at that.

He's still among my favourite x-men though i don't agree with all his choices.

Considering how many times the xmen have screwed Beast over they're just lucky he hasn't tirned villain on them. He discovered the cure for the legacy virus and no one thanked him, he was an original Xman amd was never even considered for a leadership role, he's given more for the sake of mutants than most other xmen combined and still they s**t on him so no he isnt a hypocrite the xmen are just ungrateful pricks who did everything in their power to turn him against them and then had the nerve to be pissed when he finally desided hed had enough of their crap

All the X-Men are hypocrites. All the Avengers are hypocrites. There. That about covers it.

Love this
and all are hypocrites

Beast ain't a hypocrite, he's just wolverine cheerleader.

@matkrenz: thats a good point plus wolverines team are all people who chose to kill and will do it no matter what so at least they are doing it to help the school. but wolverine beast cap and havok are all getting on my nerves lately treating cyclops as the devil and being pupets for shield

@bigtewell: Cyclops is nothing but a mutant jihadist. To hell with him.

Cyclops and Beast are my two favorite X-Men. I recognize the characters I love would never do the things they are doing in current continuity, but I tend to see it Cyke's way. I think it's apparent that Marvel tried really hard to make Cyclops into a bad guy, the whole Schism and AVX was very forced. Suddenly, Wolverine who has killed thousands of innocents alongside thousands of bad guys and has groomed several young women into becoming ruthless killers, now has a problem with teens training to fight, which is, you know the original concept of X-Men.

And suddenly, though everyone forgives Jean for what she did while possessed, it's OK to turn Cyclops into an evil overlord, despite the fact that everything turned out the way he said it would, despite the fact that he did more to help the world before becoming Dark Phoenix than any of the Avengers.

So yeah, Beast demonizing Cyke for something, while he condones Wolverine for that very same thing, is hypocrisy, and it just shows how Marvels wants everyone to know Wolverine is in the right, killer or saint, whatever he chooses is the right thing to do.

hypocrite

This.

I like Nicholas Hoult version of the character

@mrmiracle77: I would just think they are a hologram as in Rimmer from Red Dwarf.

I think a big part was how secretive Cyclops was but Beast was in the SECRET Avengers and now the Illuminati so yeah he's a hypocrite in a sense but I think he just doesn't like Cyclops.

Yea I agree with you. Hank just doesn't like Scott anymore Logan doesn't either. And it's kinda unfair to constantly point out someone's flaws and constantly remind them of their failures and what they did is SO hypocritical. I hate when the X-men get together and Scott is involved the man doesn't say much and he says few words and instantly it's Jump on Scott Day. It's always Hank,Logan,Sometimes Bobby are quick to the gun to say something. If I was an X-men every time someone wants to point out an issue in someone's past i'll bring there's up also. (Yea i'm talking about you LOGAN...HANK)