How strong is the Beast? In his profile it says he has superhuman strenght but how strong is he? How much can he lift? He is strong enough to handle himself against She-Hulk but that still doesn't prove anything. Just How strong is the Beast?
Beast
Character » Beast appears in 9636 issues.
A founding member of the X-Men, Dr. Hank McCoy is a mutant possessing animal-like strength and agility. Despite being covered in blue fur and resembling a ferocious beast, Hank possesses an astounding intellect and a superb wit. He is currently a key member of X-Force.
Beast's strenght
Handling himself with She-Hulk would have to more about agility because he's nowhere near her strength or durability. Not sure on his strength though. Think he's well below Spider-Man.
"Beast is able to lift 2 tons under optimal conditions.That sounds a bit low.
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Considering that when he began his career, he could lift around 1200 lbs.
When he mutated himself to his blur fur form, he could lift 1 tonne.
His strength was further enhanced when he underwent further mutation as a results of the effects of a virus and a kiss from the mutant Infectia.
Finally he has mutated to a more leonine appearance with an accompanying increase in mass.
The later 2 occurences would suggest a higher strength than 2 tonnes.
Beast's human form was around class 1-2 tons
In Beast current form he is around class 20-25
"fesak said:I also think that sounds a bit low, but that's what the handbook says."Beast is able to lift 2 tons under optimal conditions.That sounds a bit low.
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Vance Astro said:
"Beast's human form was around class 1-2 tonsBeast's Simian form was around class 10-15"
In Beast current form he is around class 20-25
I would like to know where these numbers comes from.
"the creator said:I posted a handbook page but it disappeared...because I didn't use 2.0'S directory..and I would use it but I can't."fesak said:I also think that sounds a bit low, but that's what the handbook says."Beast is able to lift 2 tons under optimal conditions.That sounds a bit low.
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Vance Astro said:"Beast's human form was around class 1-2 tonsBeast's Simian form was around class 10-15"
In Beast current form he is around class 20-25
I would like to know where these numbers comes from."
Marvel abandoned the class something-something system years ago in favor of the 1-7 power grid, so it sounds a bit outdated.
Anyway, the only information i've been able to find comes from the X-Men 2004 handbook, where it states 2 tons.
He supposedly has a revised entry in the All-New OHOTMU A-Z Hardcover #1, but i don't have it.
"Marvel abandoned the class something-something system years ago in favor of the 1-7 power grid, so it sounds a bit outdated.They didn't abandon it...Iron Man uses classes in his Civil War Damage report,so when you say years ago..how long ago are you talking.I know that Damage Report came out toward the end of Civil War which is fairly recent.
Anyway, the only information i've been able to find comes from the X-Men 2004 handbook, where it states 2 tons.
He supposedly has a revised entry in the All-New OHOTMU A-Z Hardcover #1, but i don't have it.
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The handbook writers said that old system was abandoned for the new one when they started the new wave of handbooks. Some of the handbooks are written in character by someone (Battle Damage report, Monster Files, Mystic Arcana), so that might be an explanation why the class system is used, ie. Tony Stark uses it. Those handbooks usually differ from the regular ones too in that there are no stats an such things.
But anyway i admit i was wrong. Which handbook is that scan from?
"The handbook writers said that old system was abandoned for the new one when they started the new wave of handbooks. Some of the handbooks are written in character by someone (Battle Damage report, Monster Files, Mystic Arcana), so that might be an explanation why the class system is used, ie. Tony Stark uses it. Those handbooks usually differ from the regular ones too in that there are no stats an such things.It's from whatever edition was out before Beast's final mutation.
But anyway i admit i was wrong. Which handbook is that scan from?
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You know this how threads should be.
A pleasent discussion that involves explanations that are thoughful.
Wish other ones were like this.
So, i've checked the Beast entries in all handbooks i have, and this is what i found out:
OHOTMU (1983) #2 - (Simian Beast) - 2000pounds (0,9 tons)
OHOTMU Deluxe #1 - (Simian Beast) - 1 ton
OHOTMU Master Edition #14 - (Simian Beast) Class 10 (2-10 ton range)
Marvel Encyclopedia - no mention
Marvel Encyclopedia: X-Men - no mention
OHOTMU Ultimate X-Men/Ultimates (Ultimate Beast) - no mention
The 198 files - no mention
House of M Handbook (HoM Beast) - 2 Tons
OHOTMU X-Men 2004 (Feline Beast) - 2 tons
Cant find the one that says 10 tons. Most of these put him in the 2 ton range.
"You know this how threads should be.Agreed.
A pleasent discussion that involves explanations that are thoughful.
Wish other ones were like this."
"So, i've checked the Beast entries in all handbooks i have, and this is what i found out:WTH? HOM Beast is 2 tons and Feline Beast? The 2004 versionfor the X-men had a second variation come out with data corrections.That is where you can find it says Beast is class 10.It's possible 10 tons is the strongest he's ever gotten.Maybe someone could find some feats he has done on a level above that.I don't really like Beast after his last transformation so I don't pay attention to him.
OHOTMU (1983) #2 - (Simian Beast) - 2000pounds (0,9 tons)
OHOTMU Deluxe #1 - (Simian Beast) - 1 ton
OHOTMU Master Edition #14 - (Simian Beast) Class 10 (2-10 ton range)
Marvel Encyclopedia - no mention
Marvel Encyclopedia: X-Men - no mention
OHOTMU Ultimate X-Men/Ultimates (Ultimate Beast) - no mention
The 198 files - no mention
House of M Handbook (HoM Beast) - 2 Tons
OHOTMU X-Men 2004 (Feline Beast) - 2 tons
Cant find the one that says 10 tons. Most of these put him in the 2 ton range.
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"fesak said:You try lifting two tonnes!!"Beast is able to lift 2 tons under optimal conditions.That sounds a bit low.
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The most amazing feat I know of Beast's in terms of strength is that he lifted a tree made of solid gold during the Dark Phoenix Saga. You've got to be pretty strong to do that.
"the creator said:.............................."fesak said:You try lifting two tonnes!!"Beast is able to lift 2 tons under optimal conditions.That sounds a bit low.
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The most amazing feat I know of Beast's in terms of strength is that he lifted a tree made of solid gold during the Dark Phoenix Saga. You've got to be pretty strong to do that.
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The most amazing feat I know of Beast's in terms of strength is that he lifted a tree made of solid gold during the Dark Phoenix Saga. You've got to be pretty strong to do that.
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How big was the tree ?
The reason I ask is that pure gold weights 19g / cm3 (so it is over 2 times as dense as steel).
This could be a very good indicator of his strength.
"The Beast has always possessed some degree of superhuman strength, the limits of which have varied at times due to subsequent mutation. During his teens, he was able to lift approximately 1 ton. After mutating into his simian form, and after this mutation eventually stabelized, his strength was increased to the point where he could lift about 10 tons, which was sufficient to smash through a brick wall with a single punch and to tie an iron barbell into a knot. He has experienced a further increase in his physical strength after mutation into his current feline/lionesque form, though the exact amount of weight he can lift isn't known. It is known, however, that he can lift more than 25 tons"
http://en.marveldatabase.com/Henry_McCoy_%28Earth-616%29
the strongest i have known beast was when apocalypse infected beast with a virus that increased his strength but reduced his intellect whenever used. however this was changed by an infectia induced conversion back to his simian form.
In this link are some corrections that were made to the OHOTMU 2004 the first one refers to Beast´s strenght
More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Data_Corrections_X-Men_2004#ixzz1R9JzaMcf
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