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    Character » Beast appears in 9636 issues.

    A founding member of the X-Men, Dr. Hank McCoy is a mutant possessing animal-like strength and agility. Despite being covered in blue fur and resembling a ferocious beast, Hank possesses an astounding intellect and a superb wit. He is currently a key member of X-Force.

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    #1  Edited By Theracles

    How strong is the Beast? In his profile it says he has superhuman strenght but how strong is he? How much can he lift? He is strong enough to handle himself against She-Hulk but that still doesn't prove anything. Just How strong is the Beast?

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    #2  Edited By The_Ghostshell

    I compare Beasts strength to that of like a Gorilla, maybe higher. But he could hang with She-Hulk.

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    #3  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

    Handling himself with She-Hulk would have to more about agility because he's nowhere near her strength or durability. Not sure on his strength though. Think he's well below Spider-Man.

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    #4  Edited By fesak  Moderator

    Beast is able to lift 2 tons under optimal conditions.

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    #5  Edited By the creator
    fesak said:
    "Beast is able to lift 2 tons under optimal conditions.
    "
    That sounds a bit low.

    Considering that when he began his career, he could lift around 1200 lbs.
    When he mutated himself to his blur fur form, he could lift 1 tonne.
    His strength was further enhanced when he underwent further mutation as a results of the effects of a virus and a kiss from the mutant Infectia.
    Finally he has mutated to a more leonine appearance with an accompanying increase in mass.

    The later 2 occurences would suggest a higher strength than 2 tonnes.
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    #6  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    Beast's human form was around class 1-2 tons

    Beast's Simian form was around class 10-15


    In Beast current form he is around class 20-25

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    #7  Edited By fesak  Moderator
    the creator said:
    "fesak said:
    "Beast is able to lift 2 tons under optimal conditions.
    "
    That sounds a bit low.
    I also think that sounds a bit low, but that's what the handbook says.


    Vance Astro said:
    "Beast's human form was around class 1-2 tons
    Beast's Simian form was around class 10-15


    In Beast current form he is around class 20-25

    "

    I would like to know where these numbers comes from.
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    #8  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    fesak said:
    "the creator said:
    "fesak said:
    "Beast is able to lift 2 tons under optimal conditions.
    "
    That sounds a bit low.
    I also think that sounds a bit low, but that's what the handbook says.


    Vance Astro said:
    "Beast's human form was around class 1-2 tons
    Beast's Simian form was around class 10-15


    In Beast current form he is around class 20-25

    "

    I would like to know where these numbers comes from."
    I posted a handbook page but it disappeared...because I didn't use 2.0'S directory..and I would use it but I can't.

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    #9  Edited By fesak  Moderator

    Marvel abandoned the class something-something system years ago in favor of the 1-7 power grid, so it sounds a bit outdated.
    Anyway, the only information i've been able to find comes from the X-Men 2004 handbook, where it states 2 tons.
    He supposedly has a revised entry in the All-New OHOTMU A-Z Hardcover #1, but i don't have it.

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    #10  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    fesak said:
    "Marvel abandoned the class something-something system years ago in favor of the 1-7 power grid, so it sounds a bit outdated.
    Anyway, the only information i've been able to find comes from the X-Men 2004 handbook, where it states 2 tons.
    He supposedly has a revised entry in the All-New OHOTMU A-Z Hardcover #1, but i don't have it.
    "
    They didn't abandon it...Iron Man uses classes in his Civil War Damage report,so when you say years ago..how long ago are you talking.I know that Damage Report came out toward the end of Civil War which is fairly recent.

    The page that I posted said 10 tons...which was from his Simean form..when he first got blue fur..Beast1.jpg

    What I said about his final form is an estimate.
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    #11  Edited By fesak  Moderator

    The handbook writers said that old system was abandoned for the new one when they started the new wave of handbooks. Some of the handbooks are written in character by someone (Battle Damage report, Monster Files, Mystic Arcana), so that might be an explanation why the class system is used, ie. Tony Stark uses it. Those handbooks usually differ from the regular ones too in that there are no stats an such things.

    But anyway i admit i was wrong. Which handbook is that scan from?

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    #12  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    fesak said:
    "The handbook writers said that old system was abandoned for the new one when they started the new wave of handbooks. Some of the handbooks are written in character by someone (Battle Damage report, Monster Files, Mystic Arcana), so that might be an explanation why the class system is used, ie. Tony Stark uses it. Those handbooks usually differ from the regular ones too in that there are no stats an such things.

    But anyway i admit i was wrong. Which handbook is that scan from?
    "
    It's from whatever edition was out before Beast's final mutation.
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    #13  Edited By the creator

    You know this how threads should be.

    A pleasent discussion that involves explanations that are thoughful.

    Wish other ones were like this.

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    #14  Edited By fesak  Moderator

    So, i've checked the Beast entries in all handbooks i have, and this is what i found out:

    OHOTMU (1983) #2 - (Simian Beast) - 2000pounds (0,9 tons)
    OHOTMU Deluxe #1 - (Simian Beast) - 1 ton
    OHOTMU Master Edition #14 - (Simian Beast) Class 10 (2-10 ton range)
    Marvel Encyclopedia - no mention
    Marvel Encyclopedia: X-Men - no mention
    OHOTMU Ultimate X-Men/Ultimates (Ultimate Beast) - no mention
    The 198 files - no mention
    House of M Handbook (HoM Beast) - 2 Tons
    OHOTMU X-Men 2004 (Feline Beast) - 2 tons

    Cant find the one that says 10 tons. Most of these put him in the 2 ton range.

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    #15  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    the creator said:
    "You know this how threads should be.

    A pleasent discussion that involves explanations that are thoughful.

    Wish other ones were like this."
    Agreed.

    fesak said:
    "So, i've checked the Beast entries in all handbooks i have, and this is what i found out:

    OHOTMU (1983) #2 - (Simian Beast) - 2000pounds (0,9 tons)
    OHOTMU Deluxe #1 - (Simian Beast) - 1 ton
    OHOTMU Master Edition #14 - (Simian Beast) Class 10 (2-10 ton range)
    Marvel Encyclopedia - no mention
    Marvel Encyclopedia: X-Men - no mention
    OHOTMU Ultimate X-Men/Ultimates (Ultimate Beast) - no mention
    The 198 files - no mention
    House of M Handbook (HoM Beast) - 2 Tons
    OHOTMU X-Men 2004 (Feline Beast) - 2 tons

    Cant find the one that says 10 tons. Most of these put him in the 2 ton range.
    "
    WTH? HOM Beast is 2 tons and Feline Beast? The 2004 versionfor the X-men had a second variation come out with data corrections.That is where you can find it says Beast is class 10.It's possible 10 tons is the strongest he's ever gotten.Maybe someone could find some feats he has done on a level above that.I don't really like Beast after his last transformation so I don't pay attention to him.
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    #16  Edited By Meteorite
    the creator said:
    "fesak said:
    "Beast is able to lift 2 tons under optimal conditions.
    "
    That sounds a bit low.

    You try lifting two tonnes!!


    The most amazing feat I know of Beast's in terms of strength is that he lifted a tree made of solid gold during the Dark Phoenix Saga. You've got to be pretty strong to do that.
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    #17  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    Meteorite said:
    "the creator said:
    "fesak said:
    "Beast is able to lift 2 tons under optimal conditions.
    "
    That sounds a bit low.

    You try lifting two tonnes!!


    The most amazing feat I know of Beast's in terms of strength is that he lifted a tree made of solid gold during the Dark Phoenix Saga. You've got to be pretty strong to do that.
    "
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    #18  Edited By the creator
    Meteorite said:
    The most amazing feat I know of Beast's in terms of strength is that he lifted a tree made of solid gold during the Dark Phoenix Saga. You've got to be pretty strong to do that.
    "

    How big was the tree ?

    The reason I ask is that pure gold weights 19g / cm3 (so it is over 2 times as dense as steel).
    This could be a very good indicator of his strength.
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    #19  Edited By beastmanX

    "The Beast has always possessed some degree of superhuman strength, the limits of which have varied at times due to subsequent mutation. During his teens, he was able to lift approximately 1 ton. After mutating into his simian form, and after this mutation eventually stabelized, his strength was increased to the point where he could lift about 10 tons, which was sufficient to smash through a brick wall with a single punch and to tie an iron barbell into a knot. He has experienced a further increase in his physical strength after mutation into his current feline/lionesque form, though the exact amount of weight he can lift isn't known. It is known, however, that he can lift more than 25 tons"

    http://en.marveldatabase.com/Henry_McCoy_%28Earth-616%29

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    #20  Edited By zee crusher

    Wasn't it 30?

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    #21  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    zee crusher said:
    "Wasn't it 30?"
    No....
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    #22  Edited By celestial_man

    the strongest  i have known beast was when  apocalypse infected  beast with a virus that increased his strength  but reduced his intellect whenever used.  however this was  changed  by an infectia induced conversion back to his simian form.

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    #23  Edited By carland

    In this link are some corrections that were made to the OHOTMU 2004 the first one refers to Beast´s strenght 


  • The Strength Level of Beast should read that Beast possesses superhuman strength enabling him to lift/press approximately 10 tons under optimal conditions instead of 2 tons.
  • To reflect the Strength Level of the entry itself, which should state Beast can lift 10 tons (as mentioned above) under optimal conditions, the Power Grid level should be a 4 (800lbs - 25 ton range) and not a 5 (25-75 ton range)…Thanks to Dan Ray for pointing this out.


  • More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Data_Corrections_X-Men_2004#ixzz1R9JzaMcf
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    #24  Edited By Foolkiller

    It is 10 tons.

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    #25  Edited By Superskrull86

    30 tons.

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