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    Edited By gmanfromheck

    Note: We have an interview with Scott Snyder about this issue right HERE.

    The Good

    We can all agree that the Joker is one of the greatest villains in comics. One of the fascinating things about the character is how, when he appears, you’re too sure which version you’ll get. Because the Joker is so unbalanced, we’ve seen a variety of different levels of intensity with his personality. Last time he was in Gotham, he was professing his love for Batman and the good vs evil game they took part in. When Batman dismissed the concept, Joker wasn’t too happy. Having been absent for some time, we’re now getting an idea what he’s been up to in that time as his plan starts to unfold.

    The first thing you’ll notice when you open the issue is a sense of familiarity. With this being the third part of the Endgame story, the first page is reminiscent to the first page of BATMAN #15, the third part of Death of the Family. Last issue Batman was shocked upon the discover that Joker had been under his nose for sometime. With Joker getting the upper hand, Batman became aware that Joker’s plan to unleash a deadly toxin upon the city was already underway. Batman was helpless to prevent it.

    This is one area where Scott Snyder thrives. We all know the writer has deep affection for Batman but he excels at creating horrific situations that try to tear Batman down. As deadly as Joker can be, Batman has fought him so many times and that’s made him believe he’ll always be able to stop him the next time. Because Joker’s had some time to do some fine tuning to his toxin, Batman might not be quite as prepared this time as he would like. On top of this, we’re getting the impression there might be more to Joker than we all thought. Of course when it comes to the Joker, you should never believe what he says or implies. This time does feel a little different though. Snyder delivers some more extremely creepy moments with Joker. This isn’t a laughing clown we’re seeing. This is the stuff of nightmares. The implications of what Jim Gordon may have discovered is something to think about.

    Greg Capullo, along with Danny Miki and FCO Plascencia deliver the visuals to make this another great installment. It’s fascinating how many aspects of the previous Zero Year arc were so bright and vivid and now we’re back in the dark. The pencils and inks simply look so crisp and clean. With the hard colors jumping off the page, you’ll just want to stop and stare. Seeing a creepy Jokerized Gotham citizen peeking through the window really stands out. A later moment with Batman making a discovery brings some of the colors from the previous arc back to give us a scene with a trippy feel.

    Let's not forget the backup by James Tynion IV and John McCrea. We have to take the information here with a grain of salt but it's starting to make you wonder.

    The Bad

    There’s some big implications involving Joker. Snyder is seemingly taking him to another level. There’s a couple things that could change as a result. Obviously we have to wait and should wait until the story is over to see how it all plays out. Also the answer to one of the questions from Death of the Family answered here changes things as well.

    The Verdict

    Joker is back and he's done with the jokes. We've seen Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo give us a Joker story before but now, Joker is back with a vengeance. The stakes have been raised. Gotham City has been infected and Batman is struggling to keep up with Joker's plan. With some new developments on Joker, things are about to get even worse. Scott Snyder has said he's writing this as if it was his last Joker story and you can tell. If you thought you'd seen all the Joker stories there were to tell, you haven't seen this one.

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    Glad I decided to jump on board for this arc. I'm Batman.

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    dude the Gordon and joker scene was scary

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    Kinda confused. What question was asked from DOTF that was answered here? Also, wasn't batman trapped in Arkham at the end of last issue?

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    @lmothander: Alfred and his daughter located him and picked him up I guess.

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    When Joker seemingly appeared in those pictures...I was legitimately terrified

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    #6  Edited By Saren

    The fear factor is a lot more effective here than it was in DOTF.

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    #7  Edited By StMichalofWilson

    Can't wait to get this issue!

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    Excited to pick this up.

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    #9  Edited By Vulshock

    @lmothander: Yeah, I'm also kind of lost on how we got from the end of part 2 to the start of part 3.

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    Snyder is really bringing that horror factor to Batman.

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    @lmothander: The question about whether or not Joker knows Batman's identity.

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    #12 the_stegman  Moderator

    Due to scheduling issues, I can't pick this up until Friday :(

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    @g_man:

    Well does he? DOES HE?!

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    I was already convinced that Snyder is the master of horror writing in comics after reading American Vampire and the first half of The Wake, but I think that this issue really writes that in stone, for me. It's incredible just how horrifying he is capable of making the Joker.

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    #15  Edited By NightFang3

    @_darkwing_ said:

    @g_man:

    Well does he? DOES HE?!

    Yes and it's terrifying what he does with that knowledge.

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    Wow, Synder went there. This is truly horrifying. I don't think we've ever seen a Joker that this legitimately mad and vengeful.

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    Im not sure what to think about this arc. If things are actually what they appear to be, this changes EVERYTHING we thought we knew about The Joker. Though Im not so sure thats a good thing. I mean for years we were under the impression that Joker was just a brilliant, mortal man capable of unspeakable things. Now we`re being hinted that he may in fact be some sort of supernatural curse on Gotham? If this turns out to be true and not another gag, it might end up cheapening the character. At least thats my opinion

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    When Joker seemingly appeared in those pictures...I was legitimately terrified

    I KNOW!!!! I kept thinking Gordon was hallucinating

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    @g_man: A great "Off my Mind" article could be what you want for the rest of Endgame and how you want Joker to be handled in the future. That is if you so desire to write one.

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    @dethklokx7: Joker is using Gotham folklore to strike fear in the hearts of good-doers and the innocent just like Batman uses superstition to strike fear in the hearts of evil-doers and the guilty.

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    @mrshway88 You know I havent thought of it that way. I mean to the public and to a large portion of the criminal underworld, Batman is shrouded in urban myth and uncertainty to the point of being borderline supernatural. If you think about it, its kind of his own joke........and Joker is merely doing his own spin on that. If thats whats up then thats actually.........pretty clever

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    @_darkwing_: I can't spoil that, but I bet you'll love it.

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    @vandinejd_1991: I'm definitely gonna write something for this. Probably not until early next week :(

    But that also gives people a chance to read this.

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    @_darkwing_: I have an interview with Scott going live in a bit and I bring this up.

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    @g_man said:

    @lmothander: The question about whether or not Joker knows Batman's identity.

    Surely there was no question, since Batman visited him as Wayne and all but confirmed it?

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    Can't wait to get this, definitely my #1 book

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    @darknightspideyfanboy: Just a curious question. How does anything in a comic scare you? Is it the image or the psychology of whats happening.

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    I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this is all a fear toxin dream like in the Over the Edge episode from the animated series. We already know that Batman has been hit with a dose of fear toxin from the first issue of the story. It could be that he's still in it and this is his worst nightmare. That Joker isn't just a man. That he's this supernatural force that can't be stopped. He'll get worse and worse, more and more dangerous until he destroys everything Batman loves. Like I said, I'm way out on a limb and may be way off, but Snyder has said in the past how much he loves the animated series. This could be a big homage to one of its best episodes.

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    I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this is all a fear toxin dream like in the Over the Edge episode from the animated series. We already know that Batman has been hit with a dose of fear toxin from the first issue of the story. It could be that he's still in it and this is his worst nightmare. That Joker isn't just a man. That he's this supernatural force that can't be stopped. He'll get worse and worse, more and more dangerous until he destroys everything Batman loves. Like I said, I'm way out on a limb and may be way off, but Snyder has said in the past how much he loves the animated series. This could be a big homage to one of its best episodes.

    That could be a possibility. I'm not sure I like where this is headed, otherwise, with it's changes to Joker's overall concept.

    There did seem to be hallucinatory elements. The part with Joe Chill, for instance...from outside his space it looks like a normal hospital space, but then all of a sudden there were weird surreal buildings that echoed the crime alley...it didn't seem real, but then as they were running off I got the impression it may have been a set I don't know. It was hard to figure out what was going on there.

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    Holy crap this entire issue kept me on the edge of my seat. Snyder is the man. I'm honestly hoping what happens in this issue sticks and it's not just the toxin talking

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    #36  Edited By MadeinBangladesh

    Okay, this was pretty crazy! This Joker does not F**K around!

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    @g_man: When Gordon saw what he saw in those pictures, all I could think of was the movie IT and the scene when they realized Pennywise was part of all those tragedies. That took this book to a whole other level!

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    Yeah, Joker is reminding me of Pennywise a bit too much and I don't like what it's doing to my mind. Jesus, I hate clowns. Always loved the Joker though. That's why I really hope this isn't the Joker and this is all just a joke.

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    @darknightspideyfanboy: agreed, holy balls, it was straight up horror movie tier or a really good creepy pasta maybe.

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    @rainja: well I personally feel it's the psychology behind it. it's in the same way playing silent hill or reading a chilling scary story in the middle of the night or watching a movie that scares you. Obviously it can't hurt you and if you keep saying oh well its just a comic/movie/game then of course it's less scary, but the idea of thinking if you were in that situation, what would you do, how would you feel, etc. We (at least I) subject ourselves to these mediums and stories because temporarily/artificially scaring yourself is fun, it means you are truly invested, it means you can identify with the characters or situations so much that you feel the fear without being in any actual danger and that's how you know you are being subjected to a great story.

    That's just my 2 cents

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    @g_man: Sweet! I am looking forward to reading your thoughts. I just finished the issue myself. I definitely have to say my mind was blown.

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    Wait another month now...

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    I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that this is all a fear toxin dream like in the Over the Edge episode from the animated series. We already know that Batman has been hit with a dose of fear toxin from the first issue of the story. It could be that he's still in it and this is his worst nightmare. That Joker isn't just a man. That he's this supernatural force that can't be stopped. He'll get worse and worse, more and more dangerous until he destroys everything Batman loves. Like I said, I'm way out on a limb and may be way off, but Snyder has said in the past how much he loves the animated series. This could be a big homage to one of its best episodes.

    Pretty sure this is the case. Otherwise Bruce might as well hand the Joker responsibility over to Jim Corrigan and the Midnight Shift.

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    Kinda confused. What question was asked from DOTF that was answered here? Also, wasn't batman trapped in Arkham at the end of last issue?

    I was quite lost on this too!

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    #45  Edited By Xframe29

    This issue was the perfect horror issue!

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    I don't read batman much....but where did Alfred's daughter come from?

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    @shadowstare: From Batman Eternal, which is still ongoing. I guess she decided to stay and be part of the Bat family.

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    This was so dang good! Next month can't get here fast enough.

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    Perfect! Easily the best book I've read this month. I Don't see anything topping it. It can't be said enough, snyder and capullo are an amazing team.

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