With Damien gone, does really Batman need another Robin?

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#1 Edited by HushoftheWind (1110 posts) - - Show Bio

I honestly think Batman should stay flying solo. Even though Damien did a damn good job filling that role, Batman should not have anymore young teen or preteen sidekicks. He already groomed 3 robins who became into their own in some shape or form and frankly that's enough. Adding another young ward will just age the character to an already unbelievable timeline. What do you guys and girls think? Should Batman keep to his tradition in adding another sidekick or should Batman just glide through the night on his own with maybe a team up or 2 from his previous partners?

Edit: Sorry for the botch title my effing cat was being an attention grabber

#2 Posted by Avenger85 (1988 posts) - - Show Bio

Simply getting another Robin and moving on after like 5 issues of mourning for Damian will be distasteful and disrespectful to his SON. And it's also time for Batman to go Batshit.

#3 Posted by gettogaara (164 posts) - - Show Bio

No. Being the second time that a Robin has died, I think it's time for Batman to stop endangering kids no matter how much they're capable of.

#4 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1672 posts) - - Show Bio

I prefer him "robinless", at least for a long while.

#5 Posted by saoakden (1075 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman should fly solo for a while. Jason was killed and somehow he came back to life but I don't see that happening to Damian anytime soon. Tim Drake said Batman needs a Robin but right now Batman doesn't need a Robin. He shouldn't get another sidekick for a while. A LONG while.

#6 Posted by sinestro_GL (3282 posts) - - Show Bio

Most likely Bruce will retire the Robin mantle...until Damian comes back anyway...

#7 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

IMO Batman should continue on his own.

He has lost too many Robins.

#8 Posted by SupBatz (1814 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman needs a Robin. I like solo Batman as much as the next guy. But that's why we have the Batman, Batman: The Dark Knight, and Detective Comics titles. They give us our chance to see Batman opporating on his own.

Robin, regardless of who is behind the mask, adds a new dynamic to Batman. And while it may seem reckless and impracticle for Batman to need a young sidekick, it just works and always has. I, personally, would rather Damian just stay Robin. But if his death does, in fact, proove permanent then I truly believe that Batman will need a new Robin. Not immediately. But someday the time will come and we'll see a new sidekick.

#9 Edited by End_Boss (738 posts) - - Show Bio

Whether any of us like it or not, Batman will have another Robin. The sidekick is an essential facet of that character, and fills a vital role. That is, a sounding board for Batman's thoughts (this is why we don't have entire issues told only through Batman's thought process. That might sound cool on its face, but after the fifth or sixth issue of it, it would wear thin.).

I'm still livid that Morrison killed Damian. What a dick. Just attention seeking.

Anyway, Harper Row will be the next Robin and we'll all like it, I guess.

#10 Posted by Dark_Guyver (2408 posts) - - Show Bio

No I dont think he should be partnered with another Robin. Hes better solo. But its inevitable that he will get another partner. Hopefully at least his next partner is someone a little older than a 10 year old boy.

#11 Posted by gettogaara (164 posts) - - Show Bio

Giving him another Robin in the near future would just be bad writing in my opinion. Harper Row has not made much of an impression on me and if she becomes Robin I will seriously cancel my subscription to the title. I mean, if we're talking a few years down the line then maybe but this is not Jason Todd. This is his flesh and blood son who just died, barely having time to live his life. What father would honestly be okay with replacing him? Hell, he might prefer being alone for a while just so he can reflect. I think it's time to forget about sidekicks and start going darker. If he absolutely needs to work with someone else it should be Nightwing or Batgirl(she seems to need the help).

Morrison really put DC in a bad position though. If Batman recovers too quickly from this, people are going to be pissed. If he never gets another Robin due to the fear of losing them, people are going to be pissed. If Damian comes back through some crazy method, people are going to be pissed. I can't think of a method (other then this all being some sort of cruel joke/dream sequence) where the majority comes out happy.

#12 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@End_Boss said:

Whether any of us like it or not, Batman will have another Robin...Morrison killed Damian. What a dick. Just attention seeking.

Anyway, Harper Row will be the next Robin and we'll all like it, I guess.

I don't any further point in discussion past this. What is understood need not be discussed, to coin a phrase. Well said End Boss...bravo.

#13 Posted by Suprman (442 posts) - - Show Bio

As a big fan of the Robin character in general. I think Bruce will always need a robin. It doesn't have to be a character that goes on patrol with him every night just someone to turn to when he needs backup or support. I hope another Robin isn't introduced anytime soon, it would be kind of disrespectful to Damian. Bruce needs time to heal and another Robin out with him every night isn't gonna heal him.

#14 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1672 posts) - - Show Bio

@End_Boss: Haha...You spoke like a boss...Morrison has a thing with attention. Nobody can deny it.

: At last, someone noticed that "Morrison really put DC in a bad position though".

#15 Posted by Shika1Dude (120 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I feel Bruce needs to move on from this whole Robin complex, Damien being Robin felt right but with his death, it should mark the end of the sidekick 'Robin', thus Bruce developing further as a character. His inability to save his son which ironically his parents succeeded in will I feel push him to become a better Batman.

Just sad that he had to go through this.... :( R.I.P Damian 'Robin' Wayne

#16 Posted by Shika1Dude (120 posts) - - Show Bio

@sinestro_GL: certainly hope so

#17 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

@gettogaara said:

No. Being the second time that a Robin has died, I think it's time for Batman to stop endangering kids no matter how much they're capable of.

Bruce only needs for his son to be alive, and be a father to him. No one can replace Damian.

#18 Posted by The Average Bear (2080 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Batman will have to be solo and darker for this to be realistic. But as Tim showed, Batman needs a Robin. It's only a matter of time. Whether or not that insults Damians memory, it depends.

@gettogaara said:

No. Being the second time that a Robin has died, I think it's time for Batman to stop endangering kids no matter how much they're capable of.

They are not actual children

#19 Posted by The Average Bear (2080 posts) - - Show Bio

And when Bruce does get another Robin, whenever that'll be, I hope we're able to see his grief. For example, Bruce calling the new Robin 'Damian' on accident would really show how much he has to deal with. Losing a son, especially when you don't have a large amount of blood-relatives lying around anymore, would fracture the sanity of anyone.

#20 Posted by consolemaster001 (6035 posts) - - Show Bio

no, i don't think so. Batman will declare that damian was the last robin to honor his son's memory.

#21 Posted by gettogaara (164 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Average Bear said:

@gettogaara said:

No. Being the second time that a Robin has died, I think it's time for Batman to stop endangering kids no matter how much they're capable of.

They are not actual children

I understand that they're fictional characters, I'm talking strictly in their world. Batman is not setting a good example for other heroes when he's had not one but two sidekicks die on him, especially when they're so young. I think Superman would be pretty horrified with the whole situation.

@evilvegeta74 said:

@gettogaara said:

No. Being the second time that a Robin has died, I think it's time for Batman to stop endangering kids no matter how much they're capable of.

Bruce only needs for his son to be alive, and be a father to him. No one can replace Damian.

I agree completely. I was hoping for this all to be some sort of dream sequence but then I heard about how it's affecting Batman and Robin too so all hope was lost.

@Phaedrusgr said:

: At last, someone noticed that "Morrison really put DC in a bad position though".

Yeah, it's like he just decided since he's leaving Damian goes with him. Of course he does this after the character becomes quite popular as supposed to when he first started out and people didn't like him much. On top of that I could have sworn when the New 52 started, DC said something about how they wouldn't be bringing back their characters. Anyway you look at it, DC is going to lose some money on this. I have a friend who's already thinking about dropping all of the Batman titles depending on Bruce's reaction. The funny part is he doesn't even like Damian.

#22 Posted by Matchstick (565 posts) - - Show Bio

He should have another Robin...eventually. Not for a long long time though, at least 5 years.

#23 Posted by The Average Bear (2080 posts) - - Show Bio

@gettogaara said:

@Phaedrusgr said:

: At last, someone noticed that "Morrison really put DC in a bad position though".

Yeah, it's like he just decided since he's leaving Damian goes with him. Of course he does this after the character becomes quite popular as supposed to when he first started out and people didn't like him much. On top of that I could have sworn when the New 52 started, DC said something about how they wouldn't be bringing back their characters. Anyway you look at it, DC is going to lose some money on this. I have a friend who's already thinking about dropping all of the Batman titles depending on Bruce's reaction. The funny part is he doesn't even like Damian.

I also seem to remember that from somewhere. And in an interview the artist said that "Damian is as dead as Thomas and Martha Wayne" which sort of blows all resurrection hopes to hell along with everyone's respect for Morrison

#24 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4530 posts) - - Show Bio

@gettogaara said:

@The Average Bear said:

@gettogaara said:

No. Being the second time that a Robin has died, I think it's time for Batman to stop endangering kids no matter how much they're capable of.

They are not actual children

I understand that they're fictional characters, I'm talking strictly in their world. Batman is not setting a good example for other heroes when he's had not one but two sidekicks die on him, especially when they're so young. I think Superman would be pretty horrified with the whole situation.

@evilvegeta74 said:

@gettogaara said:

No. Being the second time that a Robin has died, I think it's time for Batman to stop endangering kids no matter how much they're capable of.

Bruce only needs for his son to be alive, and be a father to him. No one can replace Damian.

I agree completely. I was hoping for this all to be some sort of dream sequence but then I heard about how it's affecting Batman and Robin too so all hope was lost.

@Phaedrusgr said:

: At last, someone noticed that "Morrison really put DC in a bad position though".

Yeah, it's like he just decided since he's leaving Damian goes with him. Of course he does this after the character becomes quite popular as supposed to when he first started out and people didn't like him much. On top of that I could have sworn when the New 52 started, DC said something about how they wouldn't be bringing back their characters. Anyway you look at it, DC is going to lose some money on this. I have a friend who's already thinking about dropping all of the Batman titles depending on Bruce's reaction. The funny part is he doesn't even like Damian.

I agree!

#25 Posted by Black_Claw (3042 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it's safe to say Batman's gonna go it alone this time. Losing Jason was bad enough, but this time he lost his biological kid. I highly doubt he's gonna replace his true son.

#26 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29510 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman needs a Robin and you all need to get over it.

#27 Posted by Lvenger (21066 posts) - - Show Bio

@HushoftheWind: So the cat typed your title? I wish I could teach my cat to type things on a keyboard :P

In all seriousness I do see the major problems in taking in a young child or teenager to be trained in the art of crime fighting which inevitably involves a lot of danger. It goes with the job and arguably Batman doesn't have the right to put a minor in that kind of danger. And yet the concept of Robin is an integral part of the Batman mythos, inextricably linked with the concept of Batman. Replacing his own son might be disrespectful to some but I guess there will come a time when Batman will need a new Robin. Tim Drake proves that as such. No one thought there could be another Robin after Jason died and now we've had 3 (ignoring the New 52 erasing Steph) Robins in the past 10+ years. But for now, I want Batman to be grieving and put away the Robin mantle for a good long time.

#28 Posted by havoc1201 (521 posts) - - Show Bio

There should never be another Robin, im sure he will have a new partner but they will never be called Robin. after Jason and now Damian his own son the name should be retired in Memory of his son.

#29 Edited by FatihBATMAN (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman can still go apeshit without killing, it would cool to see Bruce mourn his son for quite a while, and fly solo for a time..

#30 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6516 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Average Bear said:

@gettogaara said:

@Phaedrusgr said:

: At last, someone noticed that "Morrison really put DC in a bad position though".

Yeah, it's like he just decided since he's leaving Damian goes with him. Of course he does this after the character becomes quite popular as supposed to when he first started out and people didn't like him much. On top of that I could have sworn when the New 52 started, DC said something about how they wouldn't be bringing back their characters. Anyway you look at it, DC is going to lose some money on this. I have a friend who's already thinking about dropping all of the Batman titles depending on Bruce's reaction. The funny part is he doesn't even like Damian.

I also seem to remember that from somewhere. And in an interview the artist said that "Damian is as dead as Thomas and Martha Wayne" which sort of blows all resurrection hopes to hell along with everyone's respect for Morrison

Why does this get rid of everyones' respect for him?

#31 Posted by Fuchsia_Nightingale (10180 posts) - - Show Bio

Not really.

#32 Posted by FatihBATMAN (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

as dead as Thomas and Martha? wow thats saying something... Cool

#33 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@consolemaster001: I agree completely but I feel somehow some way there will be another "lonely place of dying" that will just put another robin with Bruce. I'm kinda exhausted by it all so if they just have Batman and Robin star Bruce with Dick one week, Tim on another I'm ok with it.

#34 Posted by FatihBATMAN (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm nice, give Tim Drake a try man! hehe

#35 Posted by sesquipedalophobe (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

@InnerVenom123 said:

Batman needs a Robin and you all need to get over it.

#36 Posted by FatihBATMAN (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

In certain situations he needs one yea! Look at Batman: AC. but not all the time.

#37 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman needs a robin

/thread

#38 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

Robin should be sidelined for the time being. Robin's death should inspire others to become vigilantes that look up to Batman during the grieving period, but that's about it. Batman and Robin could focus on adventures with Dick, Tim, and Jason.

Though if someone does become Robin and Damian comes back, he should become Redbird.

#39 Posted by FatihBATMAN (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

We can all agree on that he can survive on his own yea, but its not like its required is it?

#40 Posted by John Valentine (16335 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, Batman needs a Robin.

@ThanosIsMad said:

Robin should be sidelined for the time being. Robin's death should inspire others to become vigilantes that look up to Batman during the grieving period, but that's about it. Batman and Robin could focus on adventures with Dick, Tim, and Jason.

Though if someone does become Robin and Damian comes back, he should become Redbird.

Yes! He should also team up with Dick.

#41 Posted by gecko200 (10 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman/Bruce is fighting a war and in war there are casualties,Batman reluctantly takes on his various Robins/partners but probably would feel hypocritical to him to try and stop someone from doing what he is doing and they are probably going to attempt anyway. His training tutelage has probably extended or saved the lives of his young partners even while putting them in harms way.

#42 Posted by conradoaccorsi (301 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think Batman will take the risk of another dead,I like him in solo adventures so i don't really want in respect of Damian.

#43 Posted by FatihBATMAN (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm, he can live without one, sure if it, but he would e lonely though...

#44 Posted by ComicStooge (13735 posts) - - Show Bio

There shouldn't be a Robin again at least for a little while.

#45 Posted by FatihBATMAN (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComicStooge said:

There shouldn't be a Robin again at least for a little while.

I second that, at least for a year or so.

#46 Posted by ComicStooge (13735 posts) - - Show Bio

@FatihBATMAN said:

@ComicStooge said:

There shouldn't be a Robin again at least for a little while.

I second that, at least for a year or so.

At the very least, yeah.

#47 Posted by Humanoid (132 posts) - - Show Bio

Harper Row incoming. Prepare for a techy suicide girl wannabe Robin who whaps out memes like "epic-fail" and also calls her brother a homo.. because he's a homo. And has better tech skills than Batman.

#48 Posted by Matchstick (565 posts) - - Show Bio

@Humanoid: They'll make her Oracle if anything.

#49 Posted by Rumble Man (11118 posts) - - Show Bio
#50 Posted by Humanoid (132 posts) - - Show Bio

@Matchstick said:

@Humanoid: They'll make her Oracle if anything.

Suppose. I wonder if her plot power would save her from certain doom.

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