So, it looks like the villains in Gotham will be taking war to the city. As you know the series takes place years before Bruce takes up the Batman identity, but it looks were going to get active supervillains (more or less) in the next season. Now the problem I have with this, if Gordon is able to take down these villains, then wouldn't that defeat the point of Batman? I mean why would Gordon need Batman if he's able to take down the nut jobs without him? What do you think?

The idea of the show is to explore what it would be like if Bruce interacted with batmans world at a young age. If by the end batman is in neccissarily then its fine cause its part of the exploration. Also Gordon could end up jaded after so much crap like he did in earth one. You can't really fault the show yet cause its not a prequels its an adaptation that's acting a lot like an elseworld in the way that its exploring an idea that could radically change the character.

@redleader1 said:

The problem is, the show's creators are treating it explicitly as a prequel to Batman, and not as an Elseworld where all the villains just happen to pop up years before Bruce Wayne is even ready to suit up and not get killed on his first night out.

Gordon is now, for all intents and purposes, Batman. Except not Batman, if it makes sense.

That, and it's just an awfully written show altogether, but that's a topic for another time.

@orangebat: I would say the marketing is focusing on it like a prequel more then the show is. But like you said its not always well written so they screw up with what they want to do vs what other writers want to do. Don't forget that the first season was only 13 eps then they quickly added more.

@redleader1 said:

Yeah, that really screwed over the show. I thought the first 10 or so episodes were pretty decent, honestly. Not amazing or anything, but they were interesting enough to watch. Then came episodes 13, 14, 15 and so on, and you just knew that they were dragging this out for as long as they could. Especially the "Fish Mooney on an island" story arc.

Gotham is to Batman what is Smallville was to Superman.

They just failed totally to notice that Smallville made Clark the protagonist and knew what they were doing at least 60% of the time.

Besides made Clark young enough to deal with this things.

@william300:

I think that gordon don't need Batman help. Supervillains mostly become what they are, honestly bcs of Batman and revenge on him. Gordon (police) can beat all of others :)