So here is a different thread cause everyone is putting Batman vs this and that, and I and many others will jump in and say no Batman wins. Or others will say does Batman get prep or not?!? And Batman is still my favorite character, and I think he is the best superhero however even I can acknowledge he is not the best in everything. So this is a thread to think of different superheroes that beat him in a specific thing for example:

Escape Artistry: Mister Miracle

Strength: Superman, Wonder Woman and anyone else with super strength

Hand to Hand Combat: Deathstroke

Technical Expertise: The Atom, Cyborg, and Mr. Terrific

Paranoia: The Question

Can you think of anymore?!?!

Btw and to avoid it no one even touch who is "smarter" than Batman cause I don't want this thread to go off topic and you can't measure smarts just as much you can't say who is more "skilled" than Batman

Faster: The Flash, Superman

Are we limited to just the DC Universe? Cuz if not:

Hand to Hand Combat: Wolverine

Technical Expertise: Tony Stark

I'll write more when I can use a computer and not my phone...

Thievery: Catwoman

Sexiness: Catwoman

Whip proficiency: Catwoman

Pulling off the black leather suit: Catwoman

...Don't ask me why, I guess I was just in a mood for Ms. Kyle.

@batshrine said:

So here is a different thread cause everyone is putting Batman vs this and that, and I and many others will jump in and say no Batman wins. Or others will say does Batman get prep or not?!? And Batman is still my favorite character, and I think he is the best superhero however even I can acknowledge he is not the best in everything. So this is a thread to think of different superheroes that beat him in a specific thing for example:

Escape Artistry: Mister Miracle

Strength: Superman, Wonder Woman and anyone else with super strength

Hand to Hand Combat: Deathstroke

Technical Expertise: The Atom, Cyborg, and Mr. Terrific

Paranoia: The Question

Can you think of anymore?!?!

Btw and to avoid it no one even touch who is "smarter" than Batman cause I don't want this thread to go off topic and you can't measure smarts just as much you can't say who is more "skilled" than Batman

I would also put Calvin Rose a.k.a Talon for that one.

@JakeN7 said:

Thievery: Catwoman

Sexiness: Catwoman

Whip proficiency: Catwoman

Pulling off the black leather suit: Catwoman

...Don't ask me why, I guess I was just in a mood for Ms. Kyle.

@batshrine said:

So here is a different thread cause everyone is putting Batman vs this and that, and I and many others will jump in and say no Batman wins. Or others will say does Batman get prep or not?!? And Batman is still my favorite character, and I think he is the best superhero however even I can acknowledge he is not the best in everything. So this is a thread to think of different superheroes that beat him in a specific thing for example:

Escape Artistry: Mister Miracle

Strength: Superman, Wonder Woman and anyone else with super strength

Hand to Hand Combat: Deathstroke

Technical Expertise: The Atom, Cyborg, and Mr. Terrific

Paranoia: The Question

Can you think of anymore?!?!

Btw and to avoid it no one even touch who is "smarter" than Batman cause I don't want this thread to go off topic and you can't measure smarts just as much you can't say who is more "skilled" than Batman

I would also put Calvin Rose a.k.a Talon for that one.

I am waiting till Talon is developed a bit more to make judgement, but fair enough. And I would say Batman rivals Catwoman in sexiness, though she totally uses her sexiness to get what she wants more. In fact, I don't think there is a male character that does that...

@batshrine said:

@JakeN7 said:

Thievery: Catwoman

Sexiness: Catwoman

Whip proficiency: Catwoman

Pulling off the black leather suit: Catwoman

...Don't ask me why, I guess I was just in a mood for Ms. Kyle.

@batshrine said:

So here is a different thread cause everyone is putting Batman vs this and that, and I and many others will jump in and say no Batman wins. Or others will say does Batman get prep or not?!? And Batman is still my favorite character, and I think he is the best superhero however even I can acknowledge he is not the best in everything. So this is a thread to think of different superheroes that beat him in a specific thing for example:

Escape Artistry: Mister Miracle

Strength: Superman, Wonder Woman and anyone else with super strength

Hand to Hand Combat: Deathstroke

Technical Expertise: The Atom, Cyborg, and Mr. Terrific

Paranoia: The Question

Can you think of anymore?!?!

Btw and to avoid it no one even touch who is "smarter" than Batman cause I don't want this thread to go off topic and you can't measure smarts just as much you can't say who is more "skilled" than Batman

I would also put Calvin Rose a.k.a Talon for that one.

I am waiting till Talon is developed a bit more to make judgement, but fair enough. And I would say Batman rivals Catwoman in sexiness, though she totally uses her sexiness to get what she wants more. In fact, I don't think there is a male character that does that...

If we want to talk physical attractiveness then Dick Grayson can probably challenger Bruce for the title. Though i'd personally say both are probably equal.

Detective skills: Not now, but according to Bruce himself Tim one day.

Archery- Green Arrow

Hand to Hand Combat- I don't remember, but I think Connor Hawke was supposed to be better than Bruce. Lady Shiva could also probably give him a run for his money.

Acrobat: Nightwing

Hand to Hand: Deathstroke has beaten him, but I think it's been concluded that that's due to Deathstroke's enhancements rather than actual superior skill. I think Bronze Tiger and Richard Dragon edge him out as fighters.

@roboadmiral: I find that unlikely with the Hand to Hand combat cause I honestly believe there is only one person superior to him and my reasoning is Shiva had the spot of being the 3rd best fighter in the world before Cassie beat her. Before that only Batman has been shown to best her, so that puts Batman at number 2 (or possibly number 1 but lets not think about that option). So who is number 1?!?! (thats why I doubt both Bronze Tiger and Richard Dragon can beat Batman in hand to hand combat)

@batshrine said:

@roboadmiral: I find that unlikely with the Hand to Hand combat cause I honestly believe there is only one person superior to him and my reasoning is Shiva had the spot of being the 3rd best fighter in the world before Cassie beat her. Before that only Batman has been shown to best her, so that puts Batman at number 2 (or possibly number 1 but lets not think about that option). So who is number 1?!?! (thats why I doubt both Bronze Tiger and Richard Dragon can beat Batman in hand to hand combat)

Well Batman and Bronze Tiger fought in the Tales of the Demon trade, and Batman admits at a point during the fight that tiger almost just had him. From there the fight's never concluded as Batman's poisoned by an outside opponent and proceeds to fall from the poison, and Tiger refuses to kill him, so the fight's never concluded.

@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

@batshrine said:

@roboadmiral: I find that unlikely with the Hand to Hand combat cause I honestly believe there is only one person superior to him and my reasoning is Shiva had the spot of being the 3rd best fighter in the world before Cassie beat her. Before that only Batman has been shown to best her, so that puts Batman at number 2 (or possibly number 1 but lets not think about that option). So who is number 1?!?! (thats why I doubt both Bronze Tiger and Richard Dragon can beat Batman in hand to hand combat)

Well Batman and Bronze Tiger fought in the Tales of the Demon trade, and Batman admits at a point during the fight that tiger almost just had him. From there the fight's never concluded as Batman's poisoned by an outside opponent and proceeds to fall from the poison, and Tiger refuses to kill him, so the fight's never concluded.

I totally remember that fight!!!! Hmm the jury still on hold for me though cause thats early in Batman's career, and he was drugged but idk I'd have to reread it and see what vibe I get from his fighting.

Strength, speed, agility, acrobatics, durability, adorability: Harley Quinn. :D

@batshrine said:

@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

@batshrine said:

@roboadmiral: I find that unlikely with the Hand to Hand combat cause I honestly believe there is only one person superior to him and my reasoning is Shiva had the spot of being the 3rd best fighter in the world before Cassie beat her. Before that only Batman has been shown to best her, so that puts Batman at number 2 (or possibly number 1 but lets not think about that option). So who is number 1?!?! (thats why I doubt both Bronze Tiger and Richard Dragon can beat Batman in hand to hand combat)

Well Batman and Bronze Tiger fought in the Tales of the Demon trade, and Batman admits at a point during the fight that tiger almost just had him. From there the fight's never concluded as Batman's poisoned by an outside opponent and proceeds to fall from the poison, and Tiger refuses to kill him, so the fight's never concluded.

I totally remember that fight!!!! Hmm the jury still on hold for me though cause thats early in Batman's career, and he was drugged but idk I'd have to reread it and see what vibe I get from his fighting.

He certainly wasn't drugged during the fight! I'm not saying Bronze Tiger's better, but unless they've fought at some other point i'd say they're equal.

@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

@batshrine said:

@Nathaniel_Christopher said:

@batshrine said:

@roboadmiral: I find that unlikely with the Hand to Hand combat cause I honestly believe there is only one person superior to him and my reasoning is Shiva had the spot of being the 3rd best fighter in the world before Cassie beat her. Before that only Batman has been shown to best her, so that puts Batman at number 2 (or possibly number 1 but lets not think about that option). So who is number 1?!?! (thats why I doubt both Bronze Tiger and Richard Dragon can beat Batman in hand to hand combat)

Well Batman and Bronze Tiger fought in the Tales of the Demon trade, and Batman admits at a point during the fight that tiger almost just had him. From there the fight's never concluded as Batman's poisoned by an outside opponent and proceeds to fall from the poison, and Tiger refuses to kill him, so the fight's never concluded.

I totally remember that fight!!!! Hmm the jury still on hold for me though cause thats early in Batman's career, and he was drugged but idk I'd have to reread it and see what vibe I get from his fighting.

He certainly wasn't drugged during the fight! I'm not saying Bronze Tiger's better, but unless they've fought at some other point i'd say they're equal.

OH really! Ok I need to shut up and re read it hahaha.

Spiderman is better than bats in...well, crawling vertical :P