Bruce Wayne, who witnessed the murder of his billionaire parents as a child, swore to avenge their deaths. He trained extensively to achieve mental and physical perfection, mastering martial arts, detective skills, and criminal psychology. Costumed as a bat to prey on the fears of criminals, and utilizing a high-tech arsenal, he became the legendary Batman.
I say they're equal Slade was already a master of martial arts and he got even better when Natas trained him. It's just that DS is enhanced so he tips the scale, kinda like Superman and Captain Marvel.
Slade is superior physically and one could argue maybe better in terms of in combat strategy. Also it really depends on what outfit Slade is wearing. I am assuming gadgets and weapons are not included in this discussion. In strict hand to hand combat, wearing clothing that has no protective value at all Slade is superior just based off of known powers/abilities.
Now if we go based on known fights and scans, and this is where thejman251 and I are going to disagree (because of PIS/CIS/WIS), but I would say Batman is only slightly better. Even in the fights that Batman has lost against Slade, he severely injured him. So unless I am absolutely mistaken and there is some clear fight somewhere that Slade utterly crushes Batman, I am going to have to give this one to Batman.
Batman is the more skilled h2h combatant as Slade has pretty said he wouldn't want to fight Bruce without his enhancements and in terms of overall showings, Bruce has the better variety of attacks. Slade would beat him because while indeed a skilled fighter,it's enhancements coupled with said skill that give him the edge.
Batman is the more skilled h2h combatant as Slade has pretty said he wouldn't want to fight Bruce without his enhancements and in terms of overall showings, Bruce has the better variety of attacks. Slade would beat him because while indeed a skilled fighter,it's enhancements coupled with said skill that give him the edge.
From a technical standpoint, Batman is more skilled due to his knowledge on a wider variety of fighting styles as well as his life long practice of them. With that being said, Deathstroke is the better fighter since his physicality is in a whole different level above Batman's. He was trained to be a soldier, then he was trained to be an assassin. Combine those traits with a superhuman physique, and you have someone that no regular street level hero can take down.
I think for people to better answer the OP's question, ask yourselves this: which one would you rather fight in a cage match? The guy you don't pick is probably the better fighter.
- Now weren't you the one who said that we couldn't take the character's statements of facts and that we had to consider feats as well?
- Isn't this a bit hypocritical of you?
Yes. I did say that. But I meant that a characters statement cannot be taken alone. It must be backed up by feat evidence as you say. And so it is not hypocritical of me because the scans from that fight and the scans following provide support for Slade's statements.
- Now weren't you the one who said that we couldn't take the character's statements of facts and that we had to consider feats as well?
- Isn't this a bit hypocritical of you?
Yes. I did say that. But I meant that a characters statement cannot be taken alone. It must be backed up by feat evidence as you say. And so it is not hypocritical of me because the scans from that fight and the scans following provide support for Slade's statements.
- Really, so Slade beating Bruce provides support for Slade's statements?
- Now weren't you the one who said that we couldn't take the character's statements of facts and that we had to consider feats as well?
- Isn't this a bit hypocritical of you?
Yes. I did say that. But I meant that a characters statement cannot be taken alone. It must be backed up by feat evidence as you say. And so it is not hypocritical of me because the scans from that fight and the scans following provide support for Slade's statements.
- Really, so Slade beating Bruce provides support for Slade's statements?
Yes because Slade was the one feeling the hurt afterwords....
@moon_bat_87: Well, Batman was KO'd. I'm pretty sure he was feeling the hurt more than Slade was. It is that fact that he stated that he would have hated to face Batman without his enhancements that would lead me to believe that Batman is simply a superior combatant. He stated in fight, while he had the upper hand that he was winning because of his enhancements.
@moon_bat_87: Well, Batman was KO'd. I'm pretty sure he was feeling the hurt more than Slade was. It is that fact that he stated that he would have hated to face Batman without his enhancements that would lead me to believe that Batman is simply a superior combatant. He stated in fight, while he had the upper hand that he was winning because of his enhancements.
- Now weren't you the one who said that we couldn't take the character's statements of facts and that we had to consider feats as well?
- Isn't this a bit hypocritical of you?
Yes. I did say that. But I meant that a characters statement cannot be taken alone. It must be backed up by feat evidence as you say. And so it is not hypocritical of me because the scans from that fight and the scans following provide support for Slade's statements.
- Really, so Slade beating Bruce provides support for Slade's statements?
Yes because Slade was the one feeling the hurt afterwords....
@moon_bat_87: Well, Batman was KO'd. I'm pretty sure he was feeling the hurt more than Slade was. It is that fact that he stated that he would have hated to face Batman without his enhancements that would lead me to believe that Batman is simply a superior combatant. He stated in fight, while he had the upper hand that he was winning because of his enhancements.
- He also stated that he's been trained to kill and not simply to fight.
In terms of who's the better combatant? I say they're equal. Batman has the edge in knowing more fighting styles, but Slade has the advantage in superior physicality. In my opinion, Bruce's broader martial arts knowledge and Slade's enhanced physiology balance out each other.
Batman is superior in skills, but he lacks the enhancements of deathstroke. It would be a better debate if ds is depowered and compared in terms of technique and skill
okay, in this battle lets say its standard batman vs standard deathsrtoke, its easily deathstroke, the why is simple. Analytitcal skills batman and deathstroke are on a similar scale however the main feature of deathsroke can be derived from a factor of ten. Deathstroke is the equivlent of ten "perfect" men. Batman is one "perfect" man. Equipment wise batman refuses guns, gun vs martial arts on a base scale I point to indiana jones twirl your weapon around as much as you want a gun is quicker, and as far as martial arts base skill they are both about equal. then the final and decider is morals, batman is at his core a man of idealic morals, deathstroke has surrendered to anti morals, he does not care, batman cares. Deathstroke knows his enemys and functions as a tatical military man an uses his enemys weakness against them, while batman functions similarly he does not stoop to the lows deathstroke will. In the end Deathstroke at his base vs Batman at his base Deathstroke always wins. I would also argue deathstroke at his peak is a contender VS superman even more so than batman but thats a whole different argument
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