A lot of accusation but no arguments. It is also the first time I have seen somebody says that the Alan Moore, Doug Moench, Chuck Dixon and Jim Starlin doesn't count as important Batman writers. Interesting.

Yes,i like his dialogue too.
I started reading comics with Bendis's Ultimate Spider-Man,and Bendis's dioalugue is the best i've read in a comic book......iw doesnt mean i am judging everyone by it.Every writer has his flaws and goods.....Snyder is a great writer,and his Batman rocks.

@v_scarlotte_rose: we get reprints like that O__o ?

I'm really enjoy that my topic has open a good speech about Snyder and his stories. I think Snyder is a talented writer, capable to portray Batman in a way different compared Morrison's Batman, but the quality of Zero Year, and also Court of Owls, Death of the Family, is far away to be a masterwork, but still remains good stories. 10/10? Neither Batman RIP could be so perfect, and Batman RIP is better than Court of Owls, IMHO. Zero Year is a good starting point for the new Batman's readers, New 52 is a reboot, I'm agree with that, but 10/10? No way. Year One is a masterpiece, Killing Joke, TDKR, Long Halloween, etc.. Go on with your work Snyder, I would say to him, because, it might not be a masterpiece, and so? Zero Year still remains a good story, I'll keep on to follow it, I like it.

I say he is right, its all a matter of opinion, isn't it? And why does he has to do better? He's not the one who's writing Batman, I've seen many writer's write better dialogues for Batman, he isn't bad but he is overrated.

Morrison is okay?....Ye, you just killed whatever creditably you had with that. Morrison is, in my opinion, the best batman writer. His work is amazing

hahaha snyder over raided? im sorry but do you really want to go that route knowing the nolanites and weadonites are the groups who make them over rated?

I hate Loeb too,but Morrison......when someone says Morrison you say "Batman." ..........he is the Batman writer.
Snyder is aiming for just that.

Yeah, you can get them in W.H. Smith and other newsagents. There's currrently two Batman ones, one printing the kind of stuff I mentioned, and the other prints The Dark Knight and Detective Comics. There's also ones for Superman, The Justice League and Arrow.

As for Marvel there's comics for Astonishing Spider-Man, Wolverine & Deadpool, Avengers Assemble, Essential X-Men, Incredible Hulks, Marvel Legends(Captain America, Thor and Iron Man), and Mighty World Of Marvel, which I think is just for whatever they feel like printing. I think it's currently doing Daredevil and Avengers Academy stuff.

The DC ones are £2.99, and the Marvels have just gone up to £3.50. They print 2-5 issues at a time, so they're pretty good value. They're currently printing Avengers vs X-Men in Avengers Assemble and Essential X-Men, and Astonishing Spider-Man is printing Superior Spider-Man, so I think there's going to be more Marvel Now stuff pretty soon, if you're looking to catch up on anything you missed first time around.

Morrison's Batman isn't for everybody. I find the lack of argument and the lack of well known Batman writers list to be much higher problem. Yurself say that Morrison that is the best writer like it should be a universal truth.

@v_scarlotte_rose: I thought thoses stopped over here. When I was growing up I used to get the spider-man ones. Ahh good memories :'). Any way if I you have an android or iOS devise you can get the marvel or DC app and get the comic straight from there. That's how I get mine.

@z3ro180: I'm not into digital. I mostly get the proper American issues of things, but I started reading comics a few months after the New 52 started, and thought I'd be better off just getting the reprints rather than trying to catch up, as I think I couldn't find issues of Batman at sensible prices.

@v_scarlotte_rose: you could just get the trades

Well, I like his work on Batman (still prefer his time on Swamp Thing, though)

I think he's a good writer. Definitely not Morrison level but his stories are pretty interesting and entertaining.

@z3ro180: @v_scarlotte_rose: Whoah! My physical collection is actually made up of those reprints! I use digital now though as I already feel left behind enough.

@maccyd: lol

I like his run.

I like his run too, but 10/10, just too high scores, that's the point.

His work on Unchained has left me unimpressed. Greg Pak's work is more fun and Charlie Soule's story is way more interesting.

Most writters pull some incredible stories and some lesser good ones.

Snyder has some good ideas. I liked when he uses Gotham's past: Gates of Gotham, the Owls.

But then when he has to rewritter past stories for the new52 reboot (Death of the Family, Zero year, ...), he is not up to the task. Some good dialogues, but the main stories always have flaws. To me Death of the Family is the most disapointing Batman story I've read.

He manages to be untertaining not much. He's like those nowadays superhero movies. He attracks readers but the content isn't great.

So yes he's overrated. Because his current run is far from deserving a 10/10.

I find his work boring and would love to see some other writer tackle the character. He's been doing it for what four years now?

Death of the Family was the worst of his work in my opinion. Court of the Owls was solid enough, not a classic, but i'd re-read it. But I thought that Zero Year was great. Only reason I'd say he's overrated is because I often see him touted as the greatest Batman writer of all time. If they were just saying he was a good writer and nothing more i'd have no complaints.

Not overrated. He's an exceptional writer with a wide range of knowledge and creativity and control over his stories. I just don't like how much exposition and dialogue he always uses as its always some random story from Bruce's childhood or something that I'd actually irrelevant or some unnecessary Gotham lore. I also don't like his super long events, like the 13 month Zero Year, or how abstract and hard to grasp the themes of his stories can be, but he's truly a great Batman writer. Its time for him to go though, I've had enough of him.

@jayc1324: How is he exceptional ? How can he have a wide range of knowledge and badly copy old stories and mess up vilains ? When he invents stuff he can be good (owls arc or gates of gotham), otherwise he can't do good with constrains. Other than that I agree with what you say.

He is overrated because Batman is trendy. Heathe ledger help a lot, then Batman was rebooted, Snyder's stories start of good with interresting ideas, and nowadays marketing, are exemples of the many little things that make him trendy. But also, one can note that youngs (and not so youngs) like awfull things these days (just look at the music charts for exemples !).

I don't know why but lot of Batman aclaimed writters are in the end disapointing: Miller, Loeb, Snyder, even Morrison and Moore are not perfect. Why can so few great stories be written about Batman ? I love this hero, maybe my favorit. But I can't really explain, while storywise he is so divers, my favorite superhero book isn't a batman story.

No. He was the best batman writer we had in a while.

You're joking right?

He is a genius. All run was great and Endgame is surely one of the best comic ever.

I think he's overrated, but also overhated. Court of Owls is an undeniable modern classic, and Death of the Family was one of the best Joker stories in recent memory. I think the thing he gets hated on the most is his overabundance of exposition and symbols in his writing, as well as his endings which usually fall flat/anticlimactic. Still, his run isn't perfect (Zero Year Part 2 and the current story arc are his weakest imo)

No.

He works for me. I don't like split stories. This was one reason i quit superman. Up until now snyders batman affected the other books and it was solid. WWs book is now where it started. There was First Born but banned again. Now everyone is alive again without a lazarus pit. wow what a win - irony off. The justice league has too much strange characters and strange stories. to desribe it best i would say its just an action book with dc names. Harley Quinn is the best for me.

He is ok. I don't love him or hate him.

I used to think he was a pretty solid Batman writer, but now I think he's weak.

CoO was undeniably his most original and best work. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

DotF was fun at first to read, but rereading it shows me that it is a very weak story. Nothing happens in it.

Zero Year was great, mostly because of the Riddler's depiction. I also loved Capullo's art here. The story was just... Passable.

Endgame was entertaining like DotF but weak on rereading it.

Superheavy is total garbage.

So yeah. I don't think he's all that great. He's average at best.

3 year ago I wouldn't have said this, but now?

ooh yes

HES A LOSER

@vinervvvvv: You bumped a 3 year old thread just to say that? Snydercut and many people also disagree with you

@xmangog__beastx:

@vinervvvvv: .....

I kind of agree. His stories feel pretty formulaic. He always builds things up to a conclusion, but then rips the rug out from underneath everything like it's supposed to be some kind of twist. Sometimes he does it more than once. Usually the first "ending" would be a lot more satisfying