should Dick Grayson become Batman again?????

#1 Posted by JamDamage (1195 posts) - - Show Bio

So Scott Snyder has a new major story coming up about Bruce becoming Batman, and it got me thinking about Black Mirror. I loved that story. I think a lot of us did. I wasn't a fan of Death of a Family. I think it fell short, and even tho it was only 3 months, with all the tie-ins it seemed to go on forever. But Snyder has been killing it at Batman. Night of Owls was pretty good, but Court of Owls was epic. Capullo blew us away with his style. Black Mirror tho..................Black Mirror was shockingly great. It showed Dick taking over for Bruce. At first I kept having a feeling of "No one can take over as Batman." Snyder did a great job of showing Dick come into his own. It was interesting to see that Dick easily fell into his roll as the Dark Knight and that he could have surpassed Bruce. Then Bruce came back and to everyones surpise Dick remained as Batman. The idea worked too. Having 2 Batmans. I liked the idea. I thought it was going to stay this way for a while. Then the new 52 happened and Dick went back to being Nightwing in much shittier costume. I don't dig the red in his suit as much as the blue one. It didn't make sense to me. The whole Dick being his own guy thing is stale. He doesn't have to prove himself anymore. To himself or anyone. Being coming Nightwing again is like Wally West becoming Kid Flash again. It's just stupid. I'd like to see Dick become Batman again. I wonder if anyone else feels that way.

#2 Posted by ccraft (10470 posts) - - Show Bio

I never liked the idea of Dick being Batman, I haven't read Black Mirror yet , but I have read other books when Dick was Batman. Dick needs to stay as Nightwing, and Wally as Kid Flash. I don't know how they would do that considering Bart is Kid Flash, and in the Teen Titans. It also provides a good mystery for him, he supposed to be from the future.

I also like that Nightwing's costume is red, it brings something from his time as being Robin to his new costume, as does every past robin Jason and Tim.

#3 Posted by Jack Donaghy (1304 posts) - - Show Bio

In a word, no.

#4 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (14369 posts) - - Show Bio


#5 Posted by RustyRoy (14938 posts) - - Show Bio

Never. He has his own identity,why would he go after Bruce's. Anyway I do think Wally should not be Flash but he shouldn't be kid flash either,that's like making him Robin i.e. a sidekick. He should be his own man with his own new identity. There should be some similarities between his powers and costume with the other flashes but it should be different enough to keep him apart from them. He should have his own superhero name too like maybe lightning or bolt or how about lightning bolt, anyway he should not be anything like flash, kid flash, quick flash etc. anything but flash.

#6 Posted by TDK_1997 (15894 posts) - - Show Bio


#7 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1701 posts) - - Show Bio

No. Nightwing is the manifestation of Grayson's super persona. Keep these heroes as they are.

#8 Posted by DarKnightNoir (45 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I really liked it when Dick and Bruce were Batman simultaneously. ala Black Mirror.

#9 Posted by John Valentine (16416 posts) - - Show Bio


#10 Posted by End_Boss (749 posts) - - Show Bio

Not without Damian.



#11 Posted by BlackWind (8419 posts) - - Show Bio

The Nightwing title has less meaning in the reboot, so I could care less if Dick becomes Batman.

#12 Posted by CptPanda29 (218 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked Dick AS Batman, but Bruce IS Batman.

#13 Posted by danhimself (21281 posts) - - Show Bio

I've said this before and I'll probably say it again

if you think that Dick going back to being Nightwing was a step down then you don't understand the character

#14 Posted by JamDamage (1195 posts) - - Show Bio

@ccraft: you should really read lack Mirror. It's a really good Batman story, but it's cool to see how Dick does come into becoming Batman. I never though I'd like Dick as Batman either, but this particular story changed my mind on that.

#15 Posted by KnightRise (4811 posts) - - Show Bio


@danhimself said:

If you think that Dick going back to being Nightwing is a step down, then you really don't understand the character.


#16 Posted by consolemaster001 (6869 posts) - - Show Bio


#17 Posted by Ren_ (2217 posts) - - Show Bio

Absolutely not.

#18 Posted by Tohoma (1827 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked Dick as Batman especially with Damian as robin. But since Damian is dead nope.

#19 Posted by FalconPuuunch (947 posts) - - Show Bio

Hell no. Never again.

#20 Posted by Stronger (5051 posts) - - Show Bio

If Batman had stayed dead,I couldn't have seen anyone else take up the mantle.

#21 Posted by SupBatz (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked Dick as Batman but I don't think he should go back. Dick becoming Nightwing in the first place was his stepping out of Bruce's shadow and becoming his own man. And while his tenure as Batman was interesting as a temporary evolution, Nightwing is who he is and is his way of being his own man, not a protege of Bruce or a stand-in for him.

That doesn't mean Dick going back to being Nightwing should just mean everything returning to the way it was pre-Bruce's "death". I haven't been reading New 52 Nightwing but I hope Dick's return to being Nightwing has touched upon the idea of Dick being is own man and that he shows that he has grown from being Batman and is incorporating that growth into his Nightwing persona.

Side note: I prefer the blue costume but it doesn't much matter to me.

#22 Posted by sinestro_GL (3530 posts) - - Show Bio

Take 3?


#23 Posted by BlackReaper (601 posts) - - Show Bio

No. Maybe give Tim a go at being the Batman.

#24 Posted by FatihBATMAN (1395 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jack Donaghy said:

In a word, no.


#25 Posted by GeekyEverAfter (420 posts) - - Show Bio

No one can truly replace Batman, So... NO.

#26 Posted by nmiller1939 (50 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally, I much preferred Dick as Batman over Bruce, at least in the short term. He was fresh and exciting as Batman; Batman and Robin was the best Batman run in a long time, and I loved the Dick/Damian dynamic.

And people saying that him going back to being Nightwing isn't a demotion? From a character standpoint, you're right, but there is more to it than that. As Batman, Dick had top-of-the-line writers, his own Justice League, two solo titles plus Batman and Robin...he had all this stuff that DC editorial would never give to Nightwing. Hell, you know Mark Waid's hugely successful Daredevil run that's going on right now? He originally wanted to do Nightwing, but DC editorial didn't let him; Mark Waid is too big a name to be put on Nightwing. That's why going back to being Nightwing is a demotion. The role of Nightwing keeps Grayson from getting the top tier talent he deserves as one of the oldest, most well-developed and successful characters in comics.

#27 Posted by guttridgeb (4881 posts) - - Show Bio

Nah, Batman should always be Bruce.

#28 Posted by w0nd (4885 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackreaper: He tried that once, he couldn't handle it and believed Dick should have been him from the start.

#29 Posted by TheCannon (20261 posts) - - Show Bio

No. The only person who should be Batman (aside from Bruce) is Terry McGinnis, but he shouldn't be Batman until Bruce is old and retired. Dick is doing fine as Nightwing and has such an awesome costume.

#30 Edited by Ellie_Knightfall (4861 posts) - - Show Bio

Absolutely not.

#31 Posted by LaserLambert (641 posts) - - Show Bio


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#35 Edited by HushoftheWind (1203 posts) - - Show Bio

Dick is "a" bird, not "the" Bat.

#36 Posted by gotwillpower (718 posts) - - Show Bio


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